United States The Left Can't Meme

WolfBear

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Okay, just checking. Didn't know Cooper was gay until now, though maybe that's because I rarely tune into CNN.

Yeah, he came out back in 2012:


In 2008 or 2009, my high school social studies teacher said "Anderson Cooper is cute. Too bad that he's gay." So, some people suspected it even before he came out.

And Yep, I suspect that he prefers to enter his partner's house through the back door lol! ;) :D Or through the chimney! :D
 

WolfBear

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@Zyobot What news do you personally watch?

Anyway:

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Zyobot

Just a time-traveling robot stranded on Earth.
@Zyobot What news do you personally watch?

Not much; honestly, I've given up on keeping pace with the 24/7 news cycle and just want to live my life. Granted, there are certain things that I'll inevitably know about via cultural "osmosis" (such as the Ukraine war or inflation ticking up), but for the most part, I don't care enough to follow it in-depth anymore.


*Smiles, nods, and backs away slowly.*
 

What's the sitch?

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Just going through these and others I have seen I notice with a lot of "lefty" "memes", they just appear to be a random, unrelated image with lecturing text. Are we sure that leftist normie types are making them or are they attempts from out of touch CIA/FBI types trying to infiltrate? They really have a "how do you do fellow children vibe" a lot of times.
 

Rocinante

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Just going through these and others I have seen I notice with a lot of "lefty" "memes", they just appear to be a random, unrelated image with lecturing text. Are we sure that leftist normie types are making them or are they attempts from out of touch CIA/FBI types trying to infiltrate? They really have a "how do you do fellow children vibe" a lot of times.
No this is just how they meme
 

Bear Ribs

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Just going through these and others I have seen I notice with a lot of "lefty" "memes", they just appear to be a random, unrelated image with lecturing text. Are we sure that leftist normie types are making them or are they attempts from out of touch CIA/FBI types trying to infiltrate? They really have a "how do you do fellow children vibe" a lot of times.
It's always possible but it doesn't seem like the authorities want or need to infiltrate leftist Reddits and such with memes. The Left just can't meme. Like this:

This is a pretty funny one, note that it was made and posted by an actual White House Staffer



Nevermind the silliness that they tried to make "Dark Brandon" a meme and expected it to take off. They edited the Batman logo into an Eagle but, well, the American Eagle doesn't hold its wings that way. Hmm, which nation's eagle symbol does?

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While I strongly doubt there's any real connection one can only imagine the controversy that would arise if Trump posted a meme remotely like that.
 

Rocinante

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It's always possible but it doesn't seem like the authorities want or need to infiltrate leftist Reddits and such with memes. The Left just can't meme. Like this:

This is a pretty funny one, note that it was made and posted by an actual White House Staffer



Nevermind the silliness that they tried to make "Dark Brandon" a meme and expected it to take off. They edited the Batman logo into an Eagle but, well, the American Eagle doesn't hold its wings that way. Hmm, which nation's eagle symbol does?

iu


While I strongly doubt there's any real connection one can only imagine the controversy that would arise if Trump posted a meme remotely like that.

We don't have to imagine.

We watched the left lose their shit because a stage was shaped like a symbol that the nazis used.

 

Bear Ribs

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That Dark Brandon meme does have a Nazi Eagle because it's a 4chan meme where they are making fun of it, or some CIA glowie is desperate to make it work so they copied it.
Yeah, the left can't meme to such a degree they have to resort to copying 4Chan memes and pretending it's original.

This one is honestly just cringe.
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Assigned Hero At Birth is honestly a goldmine of stupid attempts at a meme. Honestly, the moron is lecturing people on gender... at gunpoint. Really? You have to threaten people's lives to get them to listen to your drivel even in your own memes?
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And here we have The Left Cannot Into Facts
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Rocinante

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Yeah, the left can't meme to such a degree they have to resort to copying 4Chan memes and pretending it's original.

This one is honestly just cringe.
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Assigned Hero At Birth is honestly a goldmine of stupid attempts at a meme. Honestly, the moron is lecturing people on gender... at gunpoint. Really? You have to threaten people's lives to get them to listen to your drivel even in your own memes?
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And here we have The Left Cannot Into Facts
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The last one was funny...but it wasn't supposed to be. Lol
 

Zyobot

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So, question I’ve had for a while: if you had a critical mass of “non-Left” meme-makers who defected to the Left en masse, would they bring their meme-ing skills with them, or would they lose those in the process of going Woke?

Granted, maybe that’s happened before and I just wasn’t paying attention, but I think it’s worth asking whether the majority of left-wingers don’t get it, as is, or whether Wokeness itself just isn’t meme-able.
 

Bear Ribs

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So, question I’ve had for a while: if you had a critical mass of “non-Left” meme-makers who defected to the Left en masse, would they bring their meme-ing skills with them, or would they lose those in the process of going Woke?

Granted, maybe that’s happened before and I just wasn’t paying attention, but I think it’s worth asking whether the majority of left-wingers don’t get it, as is, or whether Wokeness itself just isn’t meme-able.
I'm of the opinion Wokenes itself isn't meme-able.

For starters, one must have a Laconic sense of humor to meme. Laconic humor is only accessible to those with self-discipline (There's a reason this humor is named after the Greek region of Laconia... which has Sparta as its political center). Wokeness is inherently anti-discipline and pro-do-what-you-want, and so Laconic humor escapes them. This is a major contributor to leftist memes being five-hundred-word scoldings.

There's a few other reasons but I'll leave it there for this post in case somebody else wants to contribute on it.
 

Rocinante

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So, question I’ve had for a while: if you had a critical mass of “non-Left” meme-makers who defected to the Left en masse, would they bring their meme-ing skills with them, or would they lose those in the process of going Woke?

Granted, maybe that’s happened before and I just wasn’t paying attention, but I think it’s worth asking whether the majority of left-wingers don’t get it, as is, or whether Wokeness itself just isn’t meme-able.
Wokeness isn't memeable because you need too many words and caveats to describe their shitty ideological positions.

Memes work when they're short and to the point, funny, and carry a lot of meaning behind them.

But the woke ideology requires lots of words. You have to explain the shit in lots of words because it doesn't ring "true" like a lot of right leaning memes. The right wing memes don't need paragraphs to explain themselves, because the logic is more "true" and more in line with common sense.

In short, right wing memes are based on common sense and thousands of years of tradition, and don't need a backstory to make sense. Left wing memes are based on academic nonsensical dribble, and requires
lots of context to make sense. For the right wing memes, the context is built in to our consciousness ahead of time.

It just doesn't work like that for the left. Their entire ideology is about rejecting tradition and common sense.
 
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Zyobot

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I'm of the opinion Wokenes itself isn't meme-able.

For starters, one must have a Laconic sense of humor to meme. Laconic humor is only accessible to those with self-discipline (There's a reason this humor is named after the Greek region of Laconia... which has Sparta as its political center). Wokeness is inherently anti-discipline and pro-do-what-you-want, and so Laconic humor escapes them. This is a major contributor to leftist memes being five-hundred-word scoldings.

There's a few other reasons but I'll leave it there for this post in case somebody else wants to contribute on it.

Wokeness isn't memeable because you need too many words and caveats to describe their shitty ideological positions.

Memes work when they're short and to the point, funny, and carry a lot of meaning behind them.

But the woke ideology requires lots of words. You have to explain the shit in lots of words because it doesn't ring "true" like a lot of right leaning memes. The right wing memes don't need paragraphs to explain themselves, because the logic is more "true" and more in line with common sense.

It just doesn't work like that for the left. They have to use lots of words to explain their weird logic.

Huh; I actually wondered if a lot of it had to do with gender-studies majors and academics on the younger side who never leave their campuses being the Left’s meme-makers, though I suppose that’s not mutually exclusive with the explanations you offered.

(Also: unrelated, but as someone who’s not the “funnest“ person to be around in real life, I take a dose of pride knowing that I at least have a decent taste in memes. Have even created a few myself that I‘ve shared here before, and judging by the fact I’m not trying to stuff a manifesto into one image or make things “personal” when poking fun, I’d say I’ve been doing a pretty good job, thus far.)
 

LordsFire

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So, question I’ve had for a while: if you had a critical mass of “non-Left” meme-makers who defected to the Left en masse, would they bring their meme-ing skills with them, or would they lose those in the process of going Woke?

Granted, maybe that’s happened before and I just wasn’t paying attention, but I think it’s worth asking whether the majority of left-wingers don’t get it, as is, or whether Wokeness itself just isn’t meme-able.

Wokeness itself inherently degrades meme-making capability, at least for their cause. It actually enhances the ability to make memes that support your ideological opponents; f'rex, Justin Trudeau's remarks about Castro's death.

If you had an absolute master meme-maker, they could probably still make decent memes if they went over to the left, but it'd never be as good.
 
I think the problem is that Wokism doesn't know what it is or what it wants.

fo example, I there was this meme with Spider-man and bonesaw where when Spider-man says "Nice outfit did your husband make that for you?" Bonesaw goes into this paragraph long lecture about how he was on "The wrong side of History.TM" and Spider-Man is left in a stunned silence.

All you have to do is change it to.

Nice outfit did your husband make that for you?"


"Yes, yes he did."

"Oh....cool."

but Wokism doesn't seem to be ok with that. it's not enough to be peaceable with others they have to lecture you at all times about how not only are they right but they are superior to you, it's like the physically weak abusive spouse. Since they can't phisically beat you into submission, to make themselves feel higher, they have to resort to Verble tactics.
 

Zyobot

Just a time-traveling robot stranded on Earth.
I think the problem is that Wokism doesn't know what it is or what it wants.

fo example, I there was this meme with Spider-man and bonesaw where when Spider-man says "Nice outfit did your husband make that for you?" Bonesaw goes into this paragraph long lecture about how he was on "The wrong side of History.TM" and Spider-Man is left in a stunned silence.

All you have to do is change it to.

Nice outfit did your husband make that for you?"


"Yes, yes he did."

"Oh....cool."

but Wokism doesn't seem to be ok with that. it's not enough to be peaceable with others they have to lecture you at all times about how not only are they right but they are superior to you, it's like the physically weak abusive spouse. Since they can't phisically beat you into submission, to make themselves feel higher, they have to resort to Verble tactics.

Forgive me for my somewhat "meta" hot take, but I wonder if the bolded sentence is an outgrowth of Progressivism's Whiggish tendencies in general? Time and again, it insists that history's inexorable march forwards is one of progress, progress, and more progress... and yet, the end goal of all this "progress" is never specified.

It's just change for its own sake, where the future is always brighter and "more enlightened" than the past, and the future after that even more so, and so on and so forth until the end of time, so I wonder if that's one reason why Woke memes seem so "muddled" whenever they try (and fail) to make a point? :unsure:
 

Bear Ribs

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The last one was funny...but it wasn't supposed to be. Lol
The last one was almost entirely fictional and anybody with a working brain should be able to figure that out, for starters police don't raid kids and burst into their rooms over truancy, it's a misdemeanor filed against the parents for neglect and certainly doesn't generate a SWAT team.

In actuality, the kid in question was skipping school as a trans protest, because he wasn't allowed in the girl's bathroom. The school made a unisex staff bathroom available to trans students, but that wasn't good enough, he wanted in the girl's bathroom and the Tennessee girls didn't want him there so he stayed home to play games. He also wasn't being arrested for truancy (Which, again, is not a thing in the first place), another gamer SWATted him and the police showed up mid-stream.
 

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