Decades of mismanagement and corruption
United States The Golden State (CA) Thread
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bintananth
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Too many good intentions and good ideas which weren't thought through paving a path straight to hell.
"Let's grow water intensive crops in a place with nutrient rich soil that doesn't get enough rain to support them" followed by bitching when there's not enough water to go around is just one example.
Hint: If you have to water it past the seedling stage when it's planted outside you're growing it in the wrong climate.
Yeah.
Growing rice in Cali is the height of stupidity.
Also Hollywood has caused local politics to go a special sort of insane.
bintananth
behind a desk
I was thinking almonds and oranges, but rice is a better example of teh dumbs.
LordsFire
Internet Wizard
And what relation do you think the California Government, and in particular the Democrat Party, have to everything that's gone wrong?
bintananth
behind a desk
Allowing it and California was a Republican stronghold for quite some time.
Reagan was Governer of California before he was President.
LordsFire
Internet Wizard
Yes, it was, and he was. So you think that government permissiveness, rather than government mismanagement, is responsible for California's current condition?
bintananth
behind a desk
It was entirely mismanagement.
If anyone would know about making that statement come true it would be Reagan. My ancestors were GOP stalwarts until his administration and effectively said "never again" after he was elected President. I got an "impolite talking to" when I mentioned that I'd prefer Bush over Gore way back in Y2K.
LordsFire
Internet Wizard
You know, it never fails to sadden me when the man who literally pushed the USSR to destruction, on top of turning around the economic disaster of the Carter years, is the man some leftists find horrifying beyond all others.
I could go on, but that'd probably be getting into derail territory, regardless of Reagan having been governor of California.
49ersfootball
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Anybody else watching coverage of the CA Gubernatorial Recall Election on TV ?
Bigking321
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I'm assuming it's been rigged all to hell and am ignoring it as best I can.
bintananth
behind a desk
Reagan wasn't all "peaches and sunshine". Pretending that he was is buying into the myth of "St. Reagan" who could do no wrong.
LordsFire
Internet Wizard
I never said he could do no wrong. His stance on the war on drugs, for example, I certainly disagree with, as well as the mass amnesty that he signed for illegal immigrants.
The fact remains, however, that he ran counter to decades of Democrat defeatist doctrine, and basically made the collapse of the Soviet Union inevitable with eight years in the White House. That alone makes him a president worthy of respect, and his other accomplishments make him a truly great one.
He was an ungodly combination of Cicero and Augustus essentially, it makes sense the left is going to demonize the fuck out of that and try and make him look incompetent and evil and the alt right does the same for different reasons (Namely, he proved right leaning non whites and whites could work together but catastrophically underestimated the neocons in his own party and their fetish for the subsidio class of Latins.) so it makes sense.
History is going to judge him as one of the greatest leaders of the last thousand years though. Like him or hate him.
California is what happens when the right gets lazy and compromises basically. That'll be its legacy.
49ersfootball
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Good Morning Sietch family. Newsom stays in Sacramento as he easily defeated the recall last night in massive landslide victory with 63%.
bintananth
behind a desk
California's GDP is the fifth largest in the world. If there was no US and all the states were independent countries instead here's where the largest ones would rank:
#4 California (behind China, Germany, and Japan)
#9 Texas
#11 New York
#19 Florida
#21 Illinois
#22 Pennsylvania
(Puerto Rico would be #99)
49ersfootball
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CNN Exit Poll on how Californians voted in the recall election last night:
(Anglos)
NO: 56%
YES: 44%
(African Americans)
NO: 81%
YES: 19%
(Latinos)
NO: 58%
YES: 42%
(Asian/Pacific Islander Americans)
NO: 62%
YES: 38%
(Anglos)
NO: 56%
YES: 44%
(African Americans)
NO: 81%
YES: 19%
(Latinos)
NO: 58%
YES: 42%
(Asian/Pacific Islander Americans)
NO: 62%
YES: 38%
Typhonis
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49ersfootball
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I'm working on a segment of Newsom in the JBE TL right now, which will be featured in one of the latter chapters. The CA Gubernatorial Recall Election will be heavily focused on the TL.