United States The Golden State (CA) Thread

[strunkenwhite]

There are situations where a dog can stun an escaping suspect and give officers time to catch him.
Or it can even be safer to use the dog instead of trying to get officers closer.
Because dogs are smaller and faster then humans.

I'm not here to argue that there is no possible legitimate use of attack dogs. But I don't think it's worth it. But for the sake of educating me more on this topic, "stun"?

 

[Zachowon]

I'm not here to argue that there is no possible legitimate use of attack dogs. But I don't think it's worth it. But for the sake of educating me more on this topic, "stun"?

It stos them in thertracks in the most non lethal means.
Dogs help prevent more shootings.

 

[Captain X]

Dogs can also cause horrific wounds on a person.

 

[Zachowon]

Yes.
Dogs can also be used as a way to have people give up before they even run

 

[49ersfootball]

A new bill currently being considered in the state legislature is passed, they will be defunding police dogs next. "Police canines were first used by slave catchers and are a violent carryover."

Excuse me, but what in the absolute FUCK ??????

 

[49ersfootball]

Yes.
Dogs can also be used as a way to have people give up before they even run

Makes folks think twice before they finally surrender!

 

[Cherico]

Excuse me, but what in the absolute FUCK ??????

Id like to note that california was a free state when we were let into the union and we fought on the unions side so we really have no business feeling guilty about that shit.

 

[49ersfootball]

Id like to note that california was a free state when we were let into the union and we fought on the unions side so we really have no business feeling guilty about that shit.

CA used to be an independent country ?

 

[strunkenwhite]

CA used to be an independent country ?

Well, there was technically that thing for a few days, but no, I think he simply means that when the state of California was added to the Union (became a state instead of territory), it was as a "free state" instead of a "slave state"; in other words, "free state" means "no slavery".

 

[49ersfootball]

Well, there was technically that thing for a few days, but no, I think he simply means that when the state of California was added to the Union (became a state instead of territory), it was as a "free state" instead of a "slave state"; in other words, "free state" means "no slavery".

Ah-ha. Yet CA still had lots of issues that included the good ole trigger button pushing such as banning affirmative action, racial quotas, minority-owned businesses & entrepreneurships prevented from receiving state government contracts, etc.,

 

[strunkenwhite]

Ah-ha. Yet CA still had lots of issues that included the good ole trigger button pushing such as banning affirmative action, racial quotas, minority-owned businesses & entrepreneurships prevented from receiving state government contracts, etc.,

It's a common modern-day misconception that "anti-slavery" correlated to "not very racist" (by our standards) back then.

 

[Typhonis]

Hell back then racism happened inside of ethnic groups. White Anglo-Saxon Protestant was a thing.

 

[Cherico]

Ah-ha. Yet CA still had lots of issues that included the good ole trigger button pushing such as banning affirmative action, racial quotas, minority-owned businesses & entrepreneurships prevented from receiving state government contracts, etc.,

And so did the rest of the country, that doesn't mean I'm going to feel guilty for something we didn't fucking do.

 

[49ersfootball]

It's a common modern-day misconception that "anti-slavery" correlated to "not very racist" (by our standards) back then.

Yet the Golden State still lots of problems 🤔

 

[49ersfootball]

And so did the rest of the country, that doesn't mean I'm going to feel guilty for something we didn't fucking do.

The Black Legislative Caucus in the CA State Legislature hell-bent on repealing Proposition 209 no matter what.

 

[Cherico]

The Black Legislative Caucus in the CA State Legislature hell-bent on repealing Proposition 209 no matter what.

that would be a very bad decision that could backfire on the community hard.

 

[strunkenwhite]

Yet the Golden State still lots of problems 🤔

I don't disagree with that sentence per se, but I'm not sure what you're driving at with respect to any particular topic of discussion.

 

[Robovski]

I don't see any restitution being proposed for the Chinese labor used in California to build railroads and that seems more legit than slave reparations for people who were never slaves in a state where slavery was not legal and would have to be paid by people who never had slaves.

 

[Cherico]

I don't see any restitution being proposed for the Chinese labor used in California to build railroads and that seems more legit than slave reparations for people who were never slaves in a state where slavery was not legal and would have to be paid by people who never had slaves.

Chinese laborors were given money to do a job.

Yes the job was kind of shit, but you don't give people reperations because their ansestors had shit jobs. Because everyones ansestors worked shit jobs.

If your looking for an actual comparison, then you want the japanese internment camps during the second world war, and even that's pretty iffy.

(The conditions were no where near as bad as what slaves endured.)

 

[Robovski]

Chinese laborors were given money to do a job.

Yes the job was kind of shit, but you don't give people reperations because their ansestors had shit jobs. Because everyones ansestors worked shit jobs.

If your looking for an actual comparison, then you want the japanese internment camps during the second world war, and even that's pretty iffy.

(The conditions were no where near as bad as what slaves endured.)

If the "job" terms were anything like the ones my Slavic ancestors had when they came to Pennsylvania to dig coal then I'd say it's still a fairer claim than the proposed restitution for slavery in California. Why? Because poeple were misled and exploited, which is more than something that didn't happen in California to people it didn't happen to. What I am saying is that the plan is wild smoke blown by redistributionists wanting gimmie and buoyed by white guilt. At least with the internment camps it actually happened here in California. They want to do some kind of group mea culpa for anti-black racism? Go ahead, California's institutions seems to have a deep hand in treating blacks poorly historically and failing to fix problems when found but calling it slavery reparations is just pure bullshit. Maybe the LA Times, the police pension fund, and Holywood can foot the bill instead?