Religion The ethics of disowning degenerate family members

ShieldWife said:
If there was data about people going through a “gay phase” it would probably be ruthlessly suppressed by academia. Assuming that it’s true though, does it mean that someone was gay and became straight or that a bisexual was dating members of the same sex and then started dating members of the opposite sex?
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It wouldn't have been suppressed by academia in the past though. Psychologists were distrusted for years by the gay community for their work in conversion therapy, and there were absolute horror stories of people basically being imprisoned and electroshocked 'therapy' to get them to change, including lobotomy and implanting electrodes in the brain. They would have loved the evidence then, and would have published it.

Also, there's a large number of people admitting they were wrong about conversion therapy working, including Exodus International and Robert Spitzer.
 
Bears important to note, the APA was actually physically intimidated in the seventies by gay activists, to remove homosexuality from the DSM.

Some groups protested outside their headquarters for years.

So the APA “de stigmatizing” was done in part for political reasons.
 
Its not about the kids, its about sharing in someone else's sin.
 
worm that walks said:
If you disown your kids because they fuck somebody you don't approve of, that's being a shitty parent. These parents tolerate all sorts of "sins", except the ones they think are icky. I've got no sympathy for somebody like that.
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Eh its unrepentant sin though? Like, as far as that goes.

But again, shows we're at an impasse, because the Sexual Bolsheviki does not care for, does not understand, and outright hates religion.
 
Lord Invictus said:
Eh its unrepentant sin though? Like, as far as that goes.

But again, shows we're at an impasse, because the Sexual Bolsheviki does not care for, does not understand, and outright hates religion.
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I didn't realize "Bolsheviks" were the only people who thought abandoning your kids was bad parenting.

I don't give a damn what you believe on your own time, but when your beliefs make you turn your kids out onto the street over something utterly trivial, I have no problem judging you for that.
 
worm that walks said:
I didn't realize "Bolsheviks" were the only people who thought abandoning your kids was bad parenting.
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Sexual Bolshevism. Its not about the kids, if my son is an unrepentant homosexual, allowing him to remain is making me guilty of his sin.

I do not want to share in his sin. I have enough of my own to answer for on the last day.

So it is for my spiritual purity not his.
 
Lord Invictus said:
Sexual Bolshevism. Its not about the kids, if my son is an unrepentant homosexual, allowing him to remain is making me guilty of his sin.

I do not want to share in his sin. I have enough of my own to answer for on the last day.

So it is for my spiritual purity not his.
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I think parents have an obligation to take care of their kids no matter what, so kicking them out because you think it makes you unclean or something makes you a bad parent and a bad person.

EDIT: Oh, "Sexual Bolshevism" is a Nazi thing. Figures.
 
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The Nazis used the terminology, though they were not the only ones. The promotion of transgenderism and so on was associated with Bolshevism even in America and Britain.
 
Can we not use terms because the Nazis used them? I mean...cultural Marxism as an epithet has etymological origins with the same concept. That is Marxism and forms of degeneracy that are promoted through culture.

I suppose I could say, sexual revolutionists or libertine jacobins? If the etymology is offensive to some?
 
Lord Invictus said:
Can we not use terms because the Nazis used them? I mean...cultural Marxism as an epithet has etymological origins with the same concept. That is Marxism and forms of degeneracy that are promoted through culture.

I suppose I could say, sexual revolutionists or libertine jacobins? If the etymology is offensive to some?
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Yeah, "cultural Marxism" is also some bullshit Nazis made up.

Christ almighty.
 
worm that walks said:
Yeah, "cultural Marxism" is also some bullshit Nazis made up.

Christ almighty.
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Um okay? Like...the Nazis used words to describe phenomena. Descendants of these words to describe similar phenomena are used today.

That's a load of the genetic fallacy and association fallacy. A word does not lose its descriptive value because at some point bad people came up with its proceeding word.
 
Lord Invictus said:
Um okay? Like...the Nazis used words to describe phenomena. Descendants of these words to describe similar phenomena are used today.

That's a loaf of the genetic fallacy and association fallacy. A word does not lose its descriptive value because at some point bad people came up with its proceeding word.
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Yeah, if you want to refer to the same conspiracy theories the Nazis used, no reason not to use their terms. I just don't see why you'd want to.
 
Many people of differing political affiliations and religious affiliations use similar words?

Not to mention, the Nazis didn't get their concepts out of nowhere? They came from 19th century theorists and American policy makers.

@worm that walks we should move this to another thread. Where we can discuss Weimar era Germany and its politics, if you wish.

This is off topic.
 
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