Tanks and other Armoured Vehicles Image thread.
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Harlock
I should have expected that really
The Sherman design is standard but it was made in half a dozen factories and each factory did things slightly differently. They all had the same engine for its model, same armour, same basic dimensions, but the way they were put together varies a lot. A true expert could tell you the factory and batch just by looking at the welding patterns, how certain parts were cast etc.
With a tank like that which seems to have been rebuilt its not so easy
You'll have two or three different factories mixed in overwriting each other. Suffice to say it is not only a veteran, it is potentially several veterans stuck together
Not just a Sherman thing, T-34s came in a lot of variety especially the turrets. Some welded, some cast, the best were the ones made up in an old warship yard. They had this massive steel press used for shaping warship armour, bending these several inch thich steel plates. Incredible power behind it, about 10,000 tons of force. Anyway they modified this press to stamp out entire T-34 turrets from one big piece of steel, things must have been incredibly strong.
With a tank like that which seems to have been rebuilt its not so easy
You'll have two or three different factories mixed in overwriting each other. Suffice to say it is not only a veteran, it is potentially several veterans stuck together Not just a Sherman thing, T-34s came in a lot of variety especially the turrets. Some welded, some cast, the best were the ones made up in an old warship yard. They had this massive steel press used for shaping warship armour, bending these several inch thich steel plates. Incredible power behind it, about 10,000 tons of force. Anyway they modified this press to stamp out entire T-34 turrets from one big piece of steel, things must have been incredibly strong.
We have a bunch if E8 A3 Sherman's on Base. May get a pic to see if they are Composite or not.The Sherman design is standard but it was made in half a dozen factories and each factory did things slightly differently. They all had the same engine for its model, same armour, same basic dimensions, but the way they were put together varies a lot. A true expert could tell you the factory and batch just by looking at the welding patterns, how certain parts were cast etc.
With a tank like that which seems to have been rebuilt its not so easy
Not just a Sherman thing, T-34s came in a lot of variety especially the turrets. Some welded, some cast, the best were the ones made up in an old warship yard. They had this massive steel press used for shaping warship armour, bending these several inch thich steel plates. Incredible power behind it, about 10,000 tons of force. Anyway they modified this press to stamp out entire T-34 turrets from one big piece of steel, things must have been incredibly strong.
We also have an M36B1 on base
No, they have Tigers painted on the front of them
Yeah, it's a frankenstein monster.
I did some more research, it can't be a Composite (it's lacking the characteristic nubbin on the front glacis of all M4 Composites) and therefore is not a Chrysler built M4. It also lacks the Ford sprocket.
Tentatively, it's an M4(75) small hatch variant with the E9 tracks and suspension, Baldwin pattern sprockets, I also believe that to be a Baldwin hull (ALCO hulls for base M4's were more rounded and had different patterns on the front glacis, it lacks the characteristic Chrysler nubbin, Pressed Steel is a possibility, but the applique armor just more closely resembles Baldwins).
I'd love to have some rear views of this tank, would help narrow things down so much more.
I did some more research, it can't be a Composite (it's lacking the characteristic nubbin on the front glacis of all M4 Composites) and therefore is not a Chrysler built M4. It also lacks the Ford sprocket.
Tentatively, it's an M4(75) small hatch variant with the E9 tracks and suspension, Baldwin pattern sprockets, I also believe that to be a Baldwin hull (ALCO hulls for base M4's were more rounded and had different patterns on the front glacis, it lacks the characteristic Chrysler nubbin, Pressed Steel is a possibility, but the applique armor just more closely resembles Baldwins).
I'd love to have some rear views of this tank, would help narrow things down so much more.
Wait it is missing the nubbing on the front? Huh didn't notice
Romanian TR-85M1's looking ready for a hike in their field dress.
What is a Romanian TR-85M1 you may ask?
I have no idea. Look it up. 😁
What is a Romanian TR-85M1 you may ask?
I have no idea. Look it up. 😁
Or this monstrosity.
T-55M6, basically a T-55 with the T-72's turret and gun along with a chassis extension and serious armor upgrades.
Aldarion
Neoreactionary Monarchist
This is what Croatia had back in 2002:
T-55: 222
M-84A: 54
T-72: 3
T-34: 23
So yeah, we were still using T-34 in 2002. Oh, and US M18 and M36 tank destroyers were rather extensively used during the Homeland War. In 2002., T-34 will have been 60 years old model.
Compared to that, using T-55 in 2021. means tanks are some 74 year old models, but far more modern chassis due to World War II developments.
paulobrito
Well-known member
See post 14 on page 1....I realized reading through the thread that although somebody mentioned the Bob Semple tank, nobody posted a picture of the legend. So here it is.
The thing is about the T-55 is that they have several things going for them:
- The Soviets exported countless scores of them, even if they were "monkey models", and actual surplus Soviet stock (such as what was in Russia's inventory when the Soviet Union dissolved) means that any country purchase them for cheap compared to other vehicles
- They are incredibly versatile and adaptable when it comes to refits, upgrades, and retrofits: Combined with the above, it means you can heavily customize your "shiny new" T-55 for your country's tailored needs
- There are so many refit and retrofit options because of how wide-spread they are, and even Western companies made them because the customer base is there
- They're surprisingly simple to maintain and train to use, even after all the upgrades/modifications that could be/would be applied
- They're reliable -- they're pretty much the AK-47 of tanks
- Copies can be created from scratch in even "Second World" nations, like Iran, Iraq, et cetera, though the materials and construction quality would drastically be different per country due to resources
- If a Western arms company took the T-55's blueprints, updated them, added in modern necessitates from the ground up, and then fabricated a new T-55 using modern metallurgy and materials, they'd have the A-29 Super Tucano of tanks
Aldarion
Neoreactionary Monarchist
I realized reading through the thread that although somebody mentioned the Bob Semple tank, nobody posted a picture of the legend. So here it is.
That's ridiculous. How did the tank shoot down airplanes? Did the Tank Commander have an M1911 and just start plinking them out of the sky from his non-existent cupola?
Knowledgeispower
Ah I love the smell of missile spam in the morning
The pilot was clearly so astonished by the destruction that the tank was doing that they crashed
Duke Nukem
Hail to the king baby
Experimental variant of the Abrams called the M1 Thumper, equipped with a 140mm cannon.
...You know, in some batshit crazy Command and Conquer: Red Alert expansion mission, I could see a Soviet mission based around "destroying the prototype of a new Allied Medium Tank".Experimental variant of the Abrams called the M1 Thumper, equipped with a 140mm cannon.
This would be that tank, lol.