United States Steve Bannon Claims Elite's Want to Limit Population to 500 Million, Replace Homo Sapiens With Cyborgs

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Very interesting interview with Steve Bannon and Tim Pool about the future of humanity, and how the elite are trying to direct it towards a goal of a cyborg society and a population limited to a 'carrying capacity' of 500 million people globally (advocated for by Jane Goodall herself) with life extension tech via cyberization.

Includes references to both the Borg/Star Trek, and the Stargate SG1 episode with the memory implants that erased memories, in reference to Neural Link, FB's new 'Meta', and talk of how the elite seem to be setting up for a 'singularity/homo sapiens plus' era. Transhumanism is the real battle going on in the background. Bannon estimates singularity in 10 years till, in a decade we are dealing with homo sapiens vs homo sapiens plus.

And that's just the first 12 minutes.

It's becoming clear why Bannon is so hated and has been targeted by the elite in DC.
 
Rusty Shackleford said:
...Well that is something...

(Seriously can the guy in a clown suit get off the right's stage and be shoved into cold storage for a hundred or so years?)
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Rusty Shackleford said:
I admit that is true, but Bannon isn't Alex Jones here.
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Just watch the whole thing.

Bannon got citations for all of it, and Tim and thew other's agree; they understand the way cyborg/AI tech is now the next realm of warfare, and none of what he's mentioning is outlandish, it's just engineering challenges now.

This also fits what I heard in my Master's of Environmental Management attempt, and how the guest speakers/ tenured profs viewed the world.

This is completely legit, and dismissing his warning as 'clownish' is a very bad idea.
 
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I just think the elites and billionaires are pretty much pure evil and they do not have good plans for anyone but themselves.

Whatever their idea of a perfect world is, it has them on top ruling from on high and everyone else crushed under their feet, for the greater good of course. Everyone else is just too stupid and need the elites to rule them.
 
Ugh the world as it is, is not over populated.

Seriously the carrying capacity of just earth is fucking insane expecially with ever increasing technology, and even if you feel that way there are litterally an entire solar system worth of resources ready to be used. I do think the very rich probally think that way its completely stupid and amoral but quite a few of them probally do think that.
 
Bacle said:
This is completely legit and dismissing his warning as 'clownish' is a very bad idea.
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I am not dismissing this completely out of hand here, but what Bannon is pointing out here is nothing overtly worth praising or groundbreaking.

What the left's base want is an idealized world and what those in power want is a dystopian idealize world with themselves in charge and I or anybody else could have told you that yesterday.

The problem is Bannon while in a way right he is also too quick to give concrete assumptions on the issue when among other things.
  1. We don't know how far transhumanism tech will actually go to scale to enable this.
  2. The left's base and lefts string pullers want are two different things with similarly intentional and yet unintentional outcomes with overlap issues.
  3. It ignores the fact that the left doesn't operate in a vacuum with no wildcards to oppose them or otherwise inhibit them where it counts.
I don't disagree with Bannon's thinking or conclusion here, I disagree with his playing soothsayer which never leads anywhere good or productive, what he has given us here is a brief review of what we already know and adds nothing of value to the conversation overall.

The future is not set in stone, and we could end up with a myriad if dystopia's, utopia's or just plain human futures with wildly different outcomes, we could end up with precisely what Bannon describes, a 1984 style society, a society as laid out in the style of Agenda 21, one where the U.S. literally re-implement's segregation for whoever's benefit or otherwise just goes into an economic spiral before collapsing into civil war or loses superpower status.

Thats the problem here, Bannon is acting as if the lefts planning can somehow account for any storm and all outcomes when the fact is at the end of the day, they can only control so much and are only human.
 
Rusty Shackleford said:
I am not dismissing this completely out of hand here, but what Bannon is pointing out here is nothing overtly worth praising or groundbreaking.

What the left's base want is an idealized world and what those in power want is a dystopian idealize world with themselves in charge and I or anybody else could have told you that yesterday.

The problem is Bannon while in a way right he is also too quick to give concrete assumptions on the issue when among other things.
  1. We don't know how far transhumanism tech will actually go to scale to enable this.
  2. The left's base and lefts string pullers want are two different things with similarly intentional and yet unintentional outcomes with overlap issues.
  3. It ignores the fact that the left doesn't operate in a vacuum with no wildcards to oppose them or otherwise inhibit them where it counts.
I don't disagree with Bannon's thinking or conclusion here, I disagree with his playing soothsayer which never leads anywhere good or productive, what he has given us here is a brief review of what we already know and adds nothing of value to the conversation overall.

The future is not set in stone, and we could end up with a myriad if dystopia's, utopia's or just plain human futures with wildly different outcomes, we could end up with precisely what Bannon describes, a 1984 style society, a society as laid out in the style of Agenda 21, one where the U.S. literally re-implement's segregation for whoever's benefit or otherwise just goes into an economic spiral before collapsing into civil war or loses superpower status.

Thats the problem here, Bannon is acting as if the lefts planning can somehow account for any storm and all outcomes when the fact is at the end of the day, they can only control so much and are only human.
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the 20th century was one long example of the lefts planning backfiring over and over again.

Because heres the thing most experiements fail and the same goes with social experiements. My bet is that eventally western civilization will get entirely fed up with social experiements and just stop it. Tradition will come back and only the social experiements that worked will be kept with all the dross and the people who promote it kicked out.
 
It's more about control than ecology, although they did borrow the idea from the deep ecologists, but while Pentti Linkola championed depopulation through state oppression to achieve utopical ecological goals, they are using ecological excuses to achieve total state oppression through depopulation in order to usher an era of unending stagnation. That is their utopical dream though, carrying out is another matter. Also I get the feeling that Bannon is taking it way further than it actually is.

Elites are not some monolithic, ordered body, like RL Elders of Zion, there are no concrete, agreed upon plans. There are vague ideas and general ideas that majority of them support and nudge humanity with more or less subtlety, through their control of politics, media and finances. Well, lot less subtlety in the last five years.
 
I don't really buy into the whole population reduction conspiracy, But I do think we are headed towards a dystopian cyberpunk like future. Neo corporate feudalism is what we have to look forward too and in some ways its already here, Big tech already has essentially crushed free speech and silenced most opposition.
 
Conservatives need to stop being tied to old social norms like traditional religion, abortion, charity, welfare criticism, cultural heritage and anti-iconoclasm and fiscal responsibility.

If we want to Conserve anything we need to get ahead of the progressives on this issue to appeal to moderates and centrists. We need to embrace Techno Jesus and the technological singularity and began the state aponsored Culling now while passing a sustainable and subsidized UBI for our own cyborgs.
 
They would certainly try.They forget few things - China,Russia , India and MAYBE Japan are still independent,and when they have no problems with genociding other nations,they do not let do that to them.

Those elites are cancer of our Western world,not entire Earth.So,even if they succed,it would be last no longer then 1000 years Reich.Of course,many people would die,me included,but they would fail.

And i bet,that after genociding 1-3 billions of people and failing,some idiots would still claim that world would be paradise if they succed.
 
I've known that there's certain ideologues in the leftist social elite who want to get the population down to 500 million since... the 90's?

It's not like that's very well hidden.

The 'technology singularity within 10 years thing' is complete nonsense though. Unless he's redefining the term, there will never be a technology singularity, because it's not possible to have one.
 
Bigking321 said:
Everyone else is just too stupid and need the elites to rule them.
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To be fair, if a majority of people weren't stupid, they wouldn't have gotten as far as they have with their nonsense.



LordsFire said:
I've known that there's certain ideologues in the leftist social elite who want to get the population down to 500 million since... the 90's?

It's not like that's very well hidden.

The 'technology singularity within 10 years thing' is complete nonsense though. Unless he's redefining the term, there will never be a technology singularity, because it's not possible to have one.
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I wouldn't say it's impossible; but it won't happen within the next ten years.
 
I don’t necessarily believe this hypothesis, nor do I reject it either. The elites are certainly evil and I’m open minded to all manner of “conspiracy theories” regarding their activities and intentions. I’m sure that they have plans that go beyond simple concern for humanity, though it may not extend beyond the desire for wealth, power, and child lovers.

Of course, Alex Jones has been telling us about these plans for 20 years, so this is nothing new. It’s actually the kind of thing you might see Space Battlers advocating.

Though even if this is the goal of many of the elite, the goal and the results are often radically different. The goal of Marxism is a stateless utopian society where nobody has power or resources over anybody else, where everyone is free even from the need to work or the demands of scarcity.

The actual results of Marxist policies are the most authoritarian government imaginable with, coincidentally, the communist masterminds as absolute unquestionable rulers and the majority of the people as little more than impoverished slaves. The dream of the 500 million population technocratic utopia would be as far from the reality of trying to create it as the Marxist utopia is.
 
Lord Sovereign said:
Err...these people are feckless Neo-Liberals, not Bond Villains. "GDP line go up" is the limit of their ambitions.
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No, no it is not.

Everything Bannon is saying about the 'deep ecology/carrying capacity' issue being big for the people in power is absolutely true.

People here need to stop thinking the Left and elite are just driven by profit; they are after so much more than that.

Cyborgization offers a chance at effective immortality, and I have no doubt the elite love the idea of being immortal. However, first they need to cull our numbers so that there is a 'sustainable' world for the elites immortal cyborg bodies.

This is also why AI is now such a huge part of the arms race nations are engaging in.
 
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