Movies Starship Troopers: The bugs did nothing wrong

[Husky_Khan]

I've been watching this thread for a while reading the back and forth, and right now...
@ThatZenoGuy sounds a lot like this...

Or... just hear me out...

 

[Crom's Black Blade]

I mean, its just amusing that people take the very-riduculous propaganda of the film seriously.

You have to if we are discussing Starship Troopers the universe. Everything we see has to be taken at face value because we have no other frame of reference

This is opposed to if you want to talk about Starship Troopers the 1997 film where concepts like intent, and how effective they were, are relevant.

As I mentioned previously you appear muddled on which of these you want to discuss.

mean one of them has kids stepping on normal cockroaches as if it's a heroic act, with their teacher acting hysterical and loony.

That's in-universe propaganda meant to boost moral for the war effort. That's like looking at a WWII comic of Superman saying it's okay to slap a Japanese and declaring the United States a fascist satire.

 

[Simonbob]

declaring the United States a fascist satire.

Well, it took a while, but you guys are working on that, right now!

 

[ATP]

Cool story, they're still bugs and thus the humans are the good guys.

Yup.They even do not delivered cute insect girls for man of culture like us !
Jokes aside - they were danger,but humans deal with them like idiots.There was no tanks,artillery,only light infrantry with rifles.Not even HMG.
Unfortunatelly, they made parody of human army,not real army there.

 

[IndyFront]

Yup.They even do not delivered cute insect girls for man of culture like us !
Jokes aside - they were danger,but humans deal with them like idiots.There was no tanks,artillery,only light infrantry with rifles.Not even HMG.
Unfortunatelly, they made parody of human army,not real army there.

That's another reason I contradict the black-and-white interpretation of Starship Troopers, it's basically a grimdark setting with a flashy propagandistic framing. You have two factions: Federation and Bugs. The Federation does not represent the best and brightest of humanity, whereas for the insects it could quite possibly be an extinction level event for them. Humanity is more like a natural catastrophe like the dinosaurs being wiped out by a meteor than Nazis (although, c'mon, it's pretty obvious they were intended to be fascistic). For one, humans have access to nukes, so if we got our asses whooped on the ground hard enough we could always resort to bombing their planet into an irradiated wasteland, and that's not even taking into consideration whatever diseases, viruses and harmful bacteria we've brought to their planets from ours.

 

[ATP]

That's another reason I contradict the black-and-white interpretation of Starship Troopers, it's basically a grimdark setting with a flashy propagandistic framing. You have two factions: Federation and Bugs. The Federation does not represent the best and brightest of humanity, whereas for the insects it could quite possibly be an extinction level event for them. Humanity is more like a natural catastrophe like the dinosaurs being wiped out by a meteor than Nazis (although, c'mon, it's pretty obvious they were intended to be fascistic). For one, humans have access to nukes, so if we got our asses whooped on the ground hard enough we could always resort to bombing their planet into an irradiated wasteland, and that's not even taking into consideration whatever diseases, viruses and harmful bacteria we've brought to their planets from ours.

Yup.Bugs from book,with modern weapons and spaceships,could fight book Federation,but movie bugs? they should die there.
If movie federation was not ruled by idiots...

 

[Crom's Black Blade]

Yup.Bugs from book,with modern weapons and spaceships,could fight book Federation,but movie bugs? they should die there.
If movie federation was not ruled by idiots...

Honestly, I rather like the Movie Arachnids. They have this primal, base unease as this chitinious, inhuman horde that exists just to rend the flesh from your bones that a technological foe, I feel, just wouldn't have. That equipping them with plasma weapons kind of reduces them in a way, makes them more "human".

 

[ATP]

Honestly, I rather like the Movie Arachnids. They have this primal, base unease as this chitinious, inhuman horde that exists just to rend the flesh from your bones that a technological foe, I feel, just wouldn't have. That equipping them with plasma weapons kind of reduces them in a way, makes them more "human".

True,but also made them weak.Federation from book would eat them for breakfast - that is why movie federation are weak idiots,so they could not defeat weak bugs.

 

[Typhonis]

Something else missing from the first movie but where are the worker bugs? The ones that grow the food for the colony to eat to dig the tunnels the colony lives in? Or are the warrior bugs mislabled and they are the missing workers.

 

[The Whispering Monk]

Something else missing from the first movie but where are the worker bugs? The ones that grow the food for the colony to eat to dig the tunnels the colony lives in? Or are the warrior bugs mislabled and they are the missing workers.

The worker bugs probably are the warrior bugs.

 

[King Arts]

That's implying the government isn't at all corrupt like all governments are. He's probably best friends with his replacement and they're all colluding anyways.

But he stepped down and was not given a cushy job he was publicly lashed. Thats not something a corrupt self serving politician would accept for their failure.

 

[Carrot of Truth]

So far every argument I have seen in favor of the bugs has been outright fanfiction.

 

[Poe]

So far every argument I have seen in favor of the bugs has been outright fanfiction.

What do you expect from people who see a disgusting horde of bugs and think, "that's the good guys."

 

[stephen the barbarian]

Something else missing from the first movie but where are the worker bugs? The ones that grow the food for the colony to eat to dig the tunnels the colony lives in? Or are the warrior bugs mislabled and they are the missing workers.

the small ones that escort the brain bug

 

[Typhonis]

They look like the bugs the kids were dissecting at the start of the movie.

 

[The Whispering Monk]

They look like the bugs the kids were dissecting at the start of the movie.

They are.

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

They look like the bugs the kids were dissecting at the start of the movie.

They are.

They're similar but actually quite different in color and shape. The ones at the start of the movie aren't intelligent, they're just big space cockroaches called 'sand beetles'.

 

[ATP]

The worker bugs probably are the warrior bugs.

No,both in movie and book warriors do not worked,and workers do not fight.

 

[IndyFront]

What do you expect from people who see a disgusting horde of bugs and think, "that's the good guys."

Except we're not doing that. At all. We're simply pointing out the Federation are not the good guys. They're not even technically the protagonist, the protagonist is Rico, if anything an exploited victim of the Federation.

 

[King Arts]

Except we're not doing that. At all. We're simply pointing out the Federation are not the good guys. They're not even technically the protagonist, the protagonist is Rico, if anything an exploited victim of the Federation.

How is he a "victim" I mean with this argument you can say modern soldiers are "victims" and "manipulated".

As for the Federation not being the "good guys" thats open to debate you can certainly disagree with their political system. But they are the only human nation fighting a war to the knife against aliens that want to wipe out humans. It's the same situation the Imperium in 40k is in, only differance is that the Federation is a much nicer place to live.