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The second episode is definently more of a childish one. Not as serious as the first. The take has more of the star wars aesthetic, but has a slight chibi vibe to it. It does have Boba Fett and Tamura playing him. It also seems to be sometime after episode 3 and before 6. Since Jabba is still alive.
it has a species we have never seen before, and a female robot.
Main character is a Jedi who escaped order 66. Well it seems to be a padawan at the time.
So yeah if you don't like more musical and childish Anime, don't watch episode 2.
it has a species we have never seen before, and a female robot.
Main character is a Jedi who escaped order 66. Well it seems to be a padawan at the time.
So yeah if you don't like more musical and childish Anime, don't watch episode 2.
The third is...interesting. it is more colorful, and I mean brighter then the previous. It includes a twin stardestroyer. That is basically two combined.
It is about a twins, one who turned against his sister and they are Sith. Thier twin star destroyer is basically one of those from 9.
The female wields twin sabers. And has some cool thing she can do with her force powers. The btoerh basically turns into a luke/Han combination. Looks like Luke but wearing more of a Han outfit.
It is basically if Luke and Leia were raised as Sith during a time when the republic and the empire existed together.
The sister reminds me of one of the characters from Kill La Kill. Her design in the aspect of hair and stuff. Her outfit is more like Vader.
It is actually pretty cool animation wise, and the characters are awesome. I mean, that and that it is a evil woman. More then anything else.
Fight scene is actually pretty awesome
It is about a twins, one who turned against his sister and they are Sith. Thier twin star destroyer is basically one of those from 9.
The female wields twin sabers. And has some cool thing she can do with her force powers. The btoerh basically turns into a luke/Han combination. Looks like Luke but wearing more of a Han outfit.
It is basically if Luke and Leia were raised as Sith during a time when the republic and the empire existed together.
The sister reminds me of one of the characters from Kill La Kill. Her design in the aspect of hair and stuff. Her outfit is more like Vader.
It is actually pretty cool animation wise, and the characters are awesome. I mean, that and that it is a evil woman. More then anything else.
The trailer that showed the Doc Ock looking saber fight, is a Kyber crtysal. Damn near pure one, heavily corrupted by the girls armor. While the male uses a non corrupted one.
Zyobot
Just a time-traveling robot stranded on Earth.
I'm pretty much in the same boat here. I'd also add that it seemed pretty unrealistic, given how easily Jabba was persuaded to reverse course after that one performance (or gave the band one last chance to perform before changing his mind, at least).
You can also tell that, even ignoring the art style, the writing and dialogue reflect the fact it was made by a Japanese studio, not a Western one. Which is fine, though I've personally found these elements--as they're approached by the Japanese--to be hit-or-miss and even a bit silly. Perhaps that's thoroughly Americanized bias on my part, but still.
You can also tell that, even ignoring the art style, the writing and dialogue reflect the fact it was made by a Japanese studio, not a Western one. Which is fine, though I've personally found these elements--as they're approached by the Japanese--to be hit-or-miss and even a bit silly. Perhaps that's thoroughly Americanized bias on my part, but still.
Oh for sure. The story, and style alone show it to be eastern over Western. It is a really interesting premise, and some of them are hit or miss. 2 was not the best, but definitely more childish then the 1st 3rd and 4th so far.
Zyobot
Just a time-traveling robot stranded on Earth.
Definitely concur with regard to Episodes 1 and 3, but haven't watched Episode 4 yet (though I can understand where you're coming from in a "reasonable inference" sense).
The 4th is definently pretty interesting so far, and like the 1st, has a very large Eastern style in the design of the characters and outfits more then the 2nd and 3rd so far. Which kept to the original style in that regard.
The one thing that doesn't really change is the ships and the weapons, but even then the later takes on more of the style of what is going on and the eastern style. Some things definitely in Episode 4 are the standard Star Wars Asthetic, and one of the main cast has a VERY interesting face mask reminiscent of Eastern history. The Battle Droids are about the only other thing that seems to be normal.
The bad guys definitely have a VERY eastern influence. The outfit is mostly the same with a large influence in the outergarmet design.
THey also have a YT freighter.
The main Jedi has a pretty cool trick, and a nice Saber
The one thing that doesn't really change is the ships and the weapons, but even then the later takes on more of the style of what is going on and the eastern style. Some things definitely in Episode 4 are the standard Star Wars Asthetic, and one of the main cast has a VERY interesting face mask reminiscent of Eastern history. The Battle Droids are about the only other thing that seems to be normal.
The bad guys definitely have a VERY eastern influence. The outfit is mostly the same with a large influence in the outergarmet design.
THey also have a YT freighter.
The main Jedi has a pretty cool trick, and a nice Saber
It is a pretty good episode, I fully recommend it.
Zyobot
Just a time-traveling robot stranded on Earth.
Thanks; will watch when I have time.
I really love the ronin's line from the first one: "Unfortunately, I am not a Jedi."
It was really good
I really love the ambiguousness of it all: he's the archetypical mysterious stranger, travelling swordsman. We don't even know if he's an 'active' Dark Sider hunting rivals, or a repentant ex-Dark Sider trying to do good now, or what?
Lord Sovereign
The resident Britbong
So, the Templin Institute have struck again with their own vastly improved version of the New Republic.
How a bunch of nerds on the internet can do better with lore and world building than a Hollywood writing team will always baffle me.
How a bunch of nerds on the internet can do better with lore and world building than a Hollywood writing team will always baffle me.
Zyobot
Just a time-traveling robot stranded on Earth.
Hopefully, that'll become a subject of historical research by the time I'm old and senile, if most likely a minor one that non-historians or hobbyists have little interest in. English departments might take notice of the "creative streak" of more astute and devoted fans, though, especially with how the internet has made it much easier for them to broadcast their own takes and opinions for the world to see. Ditto with the concurrent and progressively escalating "IP Wars" to follow, though that's more of an adjacent issue than a directly relevant one, at least for now.
It simply just applying logical reasoning instead of woke politics to an issue.
Bear Ribs
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I actually think there's slightly more to it. Creativity thrives in relatively narrow zones. One specific one in this case is that a creative team can usually outproduce a lone artist, however once the team grows into a "creative" committee, actual creativity nosedives.
The best Star Wars was produced when George Lucas was working on a shoestring budget with a close-knit group of friends critiquing his work. The second best was produced when Lucas did all the creating on his own and surrounded himself with Yes Men so that it was all him. The worst came from a mega-conglomerate that had such a large team they even wanted a different producer for each film.
Small dedicated teams on YouTube consistently produce amazing stuff that easily outstrips the megacorps.
LindyAF
Well-known member
Honestly part of it is that the biggest issue with the New Republic in Disney Wars is that we never really saw it. The reimagined fits pretty well with the first movie and the second movie up until the end (no idea about movie #3, I haven't seen it). But pretty much anything would, since we have next to no details in the movies.
One thing I though while watching this is that I think it would make more sense in terms of fitting with canon (which it seems to kinda want to do?) is if they played up the importance of the "council of heads of state" idea, had it so that they did actually meet in large numbers regularly. If Starkiller base took out not just the Galactic Senate but also the heads of state and their staff of almost every planet in the galaxy, that would do a decent job of explaining how there was basically no coordinated response to them taking over.
f1onagher
Well-known member
Movies have always sacrificed worldbuilding first to fit in character growth and plot into their limited timeframe. Its just that the Star Wars sequels were just spectacularly bad at using their time. Everything is either padding, fanservice, or spectacle and its honestly impressive how much cotton candy they managed to cram into those movies. It galls me as an amateur to watch someone get paid millions of dollars to write a story I'd be mocked out of a fanfiction forum for writing.
The Templin institute's take on it is perfectly serviceable and gets bonus points for successfully incorporating the sequel movies with functionally no adjustment.
LindyAF
Well-known member
Thinking about this a bit more, I feel like tweaking the whole Starkiller base sequence so that the Rebels *lose* in TFA would potentially have fixed a lot of issues storytelling-wise.
Have the plot go something like the rebels are trying to find the location of Starkiller base, (maybe instead of Luke?) with the First Order to stop them... the Rebels get it right before the climax and then launch a desperate attempt to knock it out before it can fire, but they fail and it does anyway. Starkiller base could be either knocked out afterward, or damaged but still around, or it could have always been intended as a one-use weapon.
The reason groups of nerds do better at than the people actually getting paid to do it comes down to the fact that they actually care about it, whereas the people getting paid to do it don't, beyond the fact they are getting paid, and perhaps the woke ones feeling good about spreading the "message."