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Skallagrim

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Fan art made by Andres Bellorin, depicting Finn as a Jedi. It looks really cool, and shows just a little glimpse of what could have been, if the sequels had been made by people with... you know... creativity.

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Instead, everybody wears pretty much the same outfit for three films, and character development is, uh... I'd say absent, but in several cases, it's outright negative. Character regression.
 

Skallagrim

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Hell, they didn't even use his status as an ex-Stormtrooper for anything.
Yeah, that's an unbelievable miss. Everybody knows Star Wars was based on stealing ideas from great films and stories that came before, so why would you not do "Spartacus in SPACE"? The plot is right there, and with all the identical stormtrooper helmets you can literally do your own take on that famous "I am Spartacus" moment.

A mass rebellion of stormtroopers would have actually been something fresh and awesome.
 

BlackDragon98

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I dunno if this is just a random thought, but aren't Finn and Rey just a inverted version of Ania Solo and Jao Assam?
(except Ania and Jao are way more cool and interesting, obviously)
 

The Immortal Watch Dog

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Hetman
Hell, they didn't even use his status as an ex-Stormtrooper for anything.

The idea of Finn being an experienced, battle hardened and even well respected Stormtrooper who was very well known within the FO and without should have been how they went as opposed to "I'm just a garbage dude they slapped some armor and a rifle on"

It would make the reaction the fuckers had to him far more legitimate. It makes zero sense for everyone to know who the trash dude is, but Finn being the FO equivalent of Kal Skirata or something.

Plus it makes him a good foil for Rey. The hapless newb who sorta stumbling and savanting her way through everything playing off the cagey veteran who came to his decision after tiring of the psychopathy and bloodshed that was the walking embodiment of petulance he had to answer too.
 

StormEagle

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Get excited Boys and Girls!



Granted I have no idea who Sariah Wilson is but whatever.




KNIVES OUT EVERYBODY!

(this is not an endorsement of violence)


As if we needed more proof that Disney never learns from its mistakes.

Granted, I thought Star Wars had nowhere to go but up after the cinematic equivalent of a partial birth abortion that was their last film.

So I’m excited to see what new depths Rian can plunge the series into.
 

ShadowArxxy

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Comrade
Tbf, in the original trilogy we had Han Solo, Leia, Antilles, Chewbacca, Lando, Mon Mothma, and plenty of other characters that aren't force-sensitive.

That is fair, although Leia is more or less retroactively Force sensitive from ROTJ's reveal, and I've seen a substantial amount of fan arguments that Han's "bad feeling about this" and general luck are indicators of an untrained Force sensitivity.
 

Captain X

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Osaul
I'm kind of curious how audiences would have reacted to the main character not being force sensitive/an aspiring Jedi.
 

ShadowArxxy

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Comrade
I'm kind of curious how audiences would have reacted to the main character not being force sensitive/an aspiring Jedi.

I really think they should have gone at least partially in that direction for the sequel trilogy in order to break new ground away from the Skywalker Saga. As it is, it's something of an appendix.
 

Skallagrim

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I really don't like the idea of "everyone in the GFFA who matters at all must be a Jedi/Force sensitive", which is part of why I love Rogue One so much.
I'm kind of curious how audiences would have reacted to the main character not being force sensitive/an aspiring Jedi.
I really think they should have gone at least partially in that direction for the sequel trilogy in order to break new ground away from the Skywalker Saga. As it is, it's something of an appendix.
I think you are better off with a Force-sensitive protagonist because this is the third trilogy in an encompassing saga. The Force, and the way multiple generations of protagonists interact with it, is central to this story.

To be clear: I really like the idea of also making stuff that explores other aspects of the setting, and which has little if anything to do with the Force. (Rogue Squadron books come to mind.)

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Get excited Boys and Girls!



Granted I have no idea who Sariah Wilson is but whatever.




KNIVES OUT EVERYBODY!

(this is not an endorsement of violence)

Yeah, this is what we call bullshit. @AspblastUSA has it right: the woman in question is a writer of those formulaic romance books, and is pushing a book "inspired by meeting Adam Driver". She describes herself as a Reylo fangirl, and she recently did a video chat with Rian Johnson. And apparently he told her that his trilogy is still happening, but he's working on other projects now.

Which has been the official line since 2018. And which is also Hollywood-speak for "never gonna happen". This fangirl just doesn't get that, because she wants it to happen so much. (Or, more cynically, she doesn't actually give a fuck, but she knows that if she acts like she does, she'll get the Reylo fangirls to buy her books.)

But here's how these things work: Disney/LucasFilm has optioned Johnson for at least one more film, possibly a whole trilogy. This happened before TLJ even came out, by the way. This means they are under no obligation to start the project, but that terms have been negotiated and mutally agreed upon. Given this situation, they can terminate this arrangement and tell everybody "project ain't happening, folks" -- but lawsuits have been fought over this, with creators arguing that such a public announcement has financially damaged them by harming their reputation.

Disney can just never take Johnson up on the option, and then Johnson can argue that the project is still slated to happen (theoretically true) and not lose face, but in reality... it's never actually going to happen. And years from now, if ever asked about it, both parties will say that "due to scheduling conflicts, the project never materialised".
 

Skallagrim

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So apparently they're going to do a big crossover comic event thing that's going to involve their ongoing SW comics series... to tell the story of how Boba Fett got the carbo-frozen Hansicle to Jabba. While fighting competing bounty hunters who want to rob him of the prize.

In other words: the new continuity's version of Shadows of the Empire, with less multimedia-ness and more comic-ness.
 

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