I mean it’s the thread topic and I was responding entirely to the post at hand. If I wasn’t talking about antisemitism and by extent Jews then that would be entirely off topic. In this case I was pointing out how there are lots and lots of groups that will go extremely hard against even the slightest wiff of antisemitism.
If Jewish Americans aren't donating as much to R's, perhaps the R's should consider WHY that is, and look at maybe changing some planks of their platform.
What specifically should conservatives do to court Jewish votes? Because the right in our nation kisses more Israeli ass then the left. So helping their fellow Jews does not seem to be enough. Do these liberal limousine jews want to basically just stop conservatives from being conservative? Be another wing of the democratic party.
I would point to the same image problems the GOP has with a lot of other minority groups; too many people who seem to view the white, Christian perspective/life as the central axis of American culture and identity.
The GOP politicians and party don’t lol.
because politically Jews lean towards liberal internationalism lol. We get the Orthodox vote typically as well as some of the Zionist vote, but the why is in their politics, and to change the planks to court more of the Jewish vote would be things like supporting gun control, open borders, supporting mega corporations, bigger government, higher taxes, adopting all left wing social issues, and becoming Democrats basically. That’s an extremely dumb idea, literally what you are advocating for is RINO politics, to say, “hey right wing base of people, go fuck yourself. We aren’t going to represent what you want, but we are going to court more liberal and minority voters by abandoning what you actually want, and expecting you to just vote for us even though we do not appeal to our actual base at all, because at least we aren’t the Democrats.” Are you a fan of the Lincoln Project by chance?
Ah, so the smear campaign of the new atheists to bring a tiny fraction of randos to be the prominent face?
Minorities also across the board lean politically left. Their views are left wing on most issues. Blacks tend to be more anti-gay than whites and Hispanics tend to be Christians, so social conservatism and economic populism can pick up more minorities but it can’t pick up a majority. Jews, on the other hand, are the most left wing and liberal demographic in the nation and as a group have the most sway and control over democrat politics. The current democrat party reflects what their interests are more than any other group. To try to appeal to them would be to somehow outdo the Democrats in being Democrats.
I dunno about whites,but Poland is attacked by Russia,Germany,leftist and jews.All blame us for german or soviet crimes.
Most American Christians are idiots heretics who don't know how to interpret the Bible what else is new. But the support for Israel has very little to do with Revelations. Most of the people who butcher the Bible to support Israel use Genesis "I will bless those who bless you, and curse those who curse you." They think Jews are the chosen race of God.
In the case of the American Jewish demographic it’s one of the most wealthy, well educated demographics that the world has ever seen with disproportionate representation in every aspect of power and influence, and given how money and donations and lobbying works have more sway over democrat policy in determining what it is. It’s not a demographic the right could hope to take by changing anything because that demographic as demonstrated works more to set what Democrat is and to a lesser extent Republican policy rather than being the people who these policies are trying to capture.
Have conservatives ever considered principles don't put food on the table, but gibs will?
This I will agree with you on to a degree. We shouldn't just have flat out gibs for nothing, but we should bring back something like the Civillian Conservation Corps. So that people will be given a stipend for being loyal citizens who can be called up to work on projects that are needed. However this is dodging the point everyone is making.
Well, if the amount of Jews who are pro-gibs outweighs the amount of anti-gibs Jews, perhaps being more pro-gibs would increase the amount of Jews who vote R.
I would have no objection to bringing back the CCC, and think it would be a great idea.
The welfare state has also done fuck all for people except expand the role of government and been a way to pay people for votes and fuck over the natural social charities and institutions.
Not really and not anymore. That’s more establishment politics, not what’s in vogue with the people. I certainly don’t. Now the mantra is bring back jobs from overseas, end free trade, rebuild American industries, cut down on immigration which takes away jobs from the American people. America First, and making the American people come first once again. Americanism, not globalism.
No lol, because it’s an all encompassing world view that makes the differential, not a single issue. Most of them adhere to left wing social values and liberal internationalist politics and neoliberal capitalism, or just straight up internationalist socialism. Changing one thing doesn’t increase the vote, especially considering that this is the highest educated and one of the highest and most active political participants. This means that most are not single issue voters either. Certainly, if Trumps Israel boner couldn’t increase it dramatically increased welfare programs certainly won’t, especially as Jewish people are quite literally the last demographic who needs any sort of welfare what so ever. Nearly half of all Jews make a six figure a year income or more. It’s the wealthiest, most employed, highest income demographic in the nation.
