There is not a single fight scene or part of a fight scene in all of RWBY that comes within ten miles of DF don't even fuckin joke.
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I wont say their writing is the best, it has its up and downs. I hated the Sun sideline because of the forced Bumblebee romance they were kinda forced by the FNDM (The horrible fans, not like me) that were ravage about a SONG being cut out....A SONG!
She does more then RWBY. She has been a model and works as a regular at RT so she probably makes plenty, but modeling in COVID has taken a harder hit
I can vouge for this. Been to cons with them, outside of certain ones they aren't THAT swarmed.
Though ti does depend on the con
She does a lot fo stuff for RT so she is basically a full time member there
Because it makes them money basically. best they have for Voice Acting. A hard life, like professional musicians
did...did I ever say they were better then DF?
Then again the animation looks smoother, the fights are still nice as hell, and honestly? I like them better then some of the DF fights.
No and I never said you did. But at the same time if you don't think they're comparable don't respond to a post comparing them.
The smoothness of the current animation fight scenes i like better then the one Monty did in Blender
Smooth animation doesn't make a good fight scene any more than an HD camera makes good acting. This is so superficial. RWBY fight scenes make no sense if you even kind of pay attention they're ball busting stilted and slow the tempo is abysmal the framing is kindergarden and the impacts are floaty. Basically every fight scene has "hey whats happening off camera/why is X character just standing there for a minute watching their buddy get mangled" disorder. The worst part is that RWBY fights suck in all the ways DF fights were good, impact, framing, continuity, tempo, especially having background or off camera fights or characters still feeling like they were doing things.
The monty days had animation where the characters would stretch and contort and so on.
If monty was doing it today it would look even better
ShadowLord
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Putting aside fight choreography the main reason I can never get into RWBY combat is that despite trying to emulate anime they have none of the staples of anime fights.
My hero Academia, Naruto, Bleach, One Punch, AOT, One Piece they have fights were the fighters actually analyze their enemies strengths and weaknesses as well as has consistent power scaling which RWBY doesn't sure we know maiden powers are stronger than semblances but by how much? We know that devices in Remnant have aura monitors to keep track of how much you have left so why aren't they used constantly in fights so we can get an idea of what type of punishment each character can take?
RWBY has its problems but this is by far one of the worse as far as combat goes.
My hero Academia, Naruto, Bleach, One Punch, AOT, One Piece they have fights were the fighters actually analyze their enemies strengths and weaknesses as well as has consistent power scaling which RWBY doesn't sure we know maiden powers are stronger than semblances but by how much? We know that devices in Remnant have aura monitors to keep track of how much you have left so why aren't they used constantly in fights so we can get an idea of what type of punishment each character can take?
RWBY has its problems but this is by far one of the worse as far as combat goes.
maybe in the first few arcs lol. Then the power scale gets beat to death in an alley.
Doomsought
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RWBY was never meant to be too deep, it is fundamentally in the same genre as the American Action movie, think less Bleach and more John Wick. Power levels don't matter. It is fundamentally a visual art with the plot only existing as an excuse. What matters most is character design, especially the weapons, kinematics and camera angle.
That just circles back to all the reasons I brought up though. The fight scenes are shitty from the construction up.
I don't have a problem with that, but the fact is that RT has stated this to be an "American Anime" since forever and as far as being connected to that genre it's missing out on key staples.
One of the most glaring missed opportunities from the onset was the lack of point of view which would have helped us get behind out characters and better understand them. Can you imagine how much more disheartening Pyrrha's death would have been had we seen the world through her eyes? Can you further imagine how much deeper Volume 4 could have been had we a short time during their journey with someone inadvertently mentions her bringing them all to silence and they each get a mini pov in which we see how her death affected then all individually?
The above is what I mean opportunities lost from the start.
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Well. I will go ahead and break it down some.
They don't use their Aura monitors on every fight because they have to pull out their phone ( a scroll) in order to see it. so that is why there us that.
Oh we know how strong Maidens are when fully trained. That is why we never got a good idea because of no Maiden before vol 7 being fully trained. We see just how strong and powerful Cinder is as a very new Maiden in Vol 3 against Pyrrha, we see how strong two newer maidens are, with the better trained one winning out. We then see just how powerful a full maiden is...EVEN when injured old and dying. Was making Cinder work hard for it. We then see what one of the strongest non Maiden characters can do when given maiden powers, and still being very new to them, was able to combine the new powers with her normal ones and give an amazing fight.
We have a way to tell how much Aura is left from a viewer perspective. The cues of when the aura flares and then breaks.
Why does knowing how much one has left make much of a difference as it is less likely to show the trope of, someone how pulling more out ofones ass?
Well, the thing with Pyrrhas death was less going to be a remember this kinda thing, and was going to be a major focus on the JNR for a short while till they got Vol 7. Ruby still has it hurting her badly, but is using her to give her a reason to keep going. jaune had his moment that still gets me to tears in Vol 4. Both eary episode and late episode. Then we see how JNR feels in Vol 7, and why they make up for it, and how. What they plan to do, to honor her.
I honestly thinkthat would not have been the best, mainly because the weight and death were still heavy on Jaune and Ruby, and Jaune needed a talk from the red head,aka Pyrrhas Mom, to help him realize how he would honor her in a better way, as did his whole team.
But that is how I feel about it
"we see how strong they are" yah inconsistent thats how they are. Sometimes they're invincible and sometimes they're barely more impressive than or even less impressive than regulars. Power of an ancient demigod and you get to be like 20% stronger than Cinder awesome. Penny actually seems way weaker now that she's a god. The power scale in RWBY is busted as fuck.
How does she seem weaker? Besides the fact that she is focused on protecting her father then defeating cinder in a quick blow? because she has feelings?
Every time we see a maiden fight they re out and out better then a normal person. IF they activate their powers
Okay, keep in mind Zacho that I am not a RWBY hater. In fact, I love the show, I wouldn't write fanfiction for it if I didn't, that being said, RWBY has it's problems...
In any case I will comment on your points to counter them.
The problem with this is that all combat in RWBY is based around Aura and Semblances, the latter of which needs the former to work, which means without it you are helpless. Knowing how much aura you have is thus extremely important for your long term survival against both humans and Grimm.
The world of RWBY literally has self driving cars, energy weapons, Androids, holographic tables and scrolls, but somehow Atlas hasn't been able to cram something small enough to literally fit into a cell phone into something else that's easily and constantly viewable for ease of hunters? like say a wrist watch?
I take full responsibility for this mistake as I phrased my writing in a weird way from what you quoted.
What I mean and what I am getting at is more a question of "What are Semblances limits?" and "What makes a Maidens power greater?"
Think about it Zacho, we have never been told the true limits of what semblance's can do. For an example we know that Yang has a semblances that allows her to ramp up in power, the only limit being she can't do that indefinitely because her Aura still takes damage from the blows...But if she did for whatever the reason had an indefinite amount of aura would she still continue to ramp or are semblances limited to an extent beyond that, and if so how?
We see Pyrrha use almost all her strength to move the gears when fighting Cinder and yet Glynda casually throws a cafeteria together and despite that in the finale of Volume 3 we see her semblance struggling and why is that? She still has Aura obviouslly so what measure do we use to tell when a semblance becomes exausted?
We know but that doesn't really matter as by that point you are dead as an aura user.
Because it helps you power scale and get a gleam of what the heroes are facing. Every non-maiden in the series bar Ozpin, The Gods, as well as Salem could fight Cinder and Raven, yet the power scaling is so vague at times that figuring out if this overwhelming amount of people with aura, weapons and semblances can actually just beat two people is overwhelmingly impossible.
Keep in mind, I am not saying that what we got was bad I am just stating they waited too long to address the issue. (Two volumes)
It got to the point that up until they reached Argus I thought that Ren and Nora had just plain forgotten about her. (Blake and Yang still have) And while I understand they had their own arc going for them, honestly, Pyrrha in memory should have been more connected in that plotline, at least briefly, as ever since Ren and Nora found each other JNPR was the closest thing to a family they allegedly had, and that should have connected to their fear of facing their old home.
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So. The newest episode is damn good.
We find out the new talking Grimm is made form Humans, which means they hit Ruby hard in the emotional feels. It was astounding her reaction, We also see Willow still can use her semblance. Silver eyes are still OP.
It was very boring and the big bad monster got killed by something that would have been a joke in S1
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I actually liked it. I found it a good episode, especially for a return, and the tension was nice, especially with the new revelation about the new grimm.
f1onagher
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The plot actually moved forwards, so it gets a pass with me. I really wish people's semblance levels weren't so randomly arbitrary. Its really difficult to tell how tough they are and how well matched the fighters are. Was the Grimm dude anyone we knew or just a rando?