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History Learner

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The "unprovoked" part sounds like PR bullshit just like they didn't know Bin Laden wasn't in Abbottabad.

What makes it weirder is the group that attacked Iran is a well known Mossad asset, yet Pakistan has pretty poor relations with Israel. As usual, the Middle East is a special place lol.
 

Poe

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What makes it weirder is the group that attacked Iran is a well known Mossad asset, yet Pakistan has pretty poor relations with Israel. As usual, the Middle East is a special place lol.
It isn't that weird tbh, Pakistan has been a long term US ally and so it's not out of the question there are still some levers that US intelligence can pull within it; even if they are becoming increasingly pro-Chinese.
 

History Learner

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It isn't that weird tbh, Pakistan has been a long term US ally and so it's not out of the question there are still some levers that US intelligence can pull within it; even if they are becoming increasingly pro-Chinese.

It's weird the U.S. would do that when the group in question is Mossad affiliated, something the CIA was angry about in 2012 IIRC because the former was pretending to be the latter in recruiting them.
 

TheRejectionist

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It isn't that weird tbh, Pakistan has been a long term US ally and so it's not out of the question there are still some levers that US intelligence can pull within it; even if they are becoming increasingly pro-Chinese.
Pakistan hasn't been a reliable ally for the US since the Sinoindian War.
 

Husky_Khan

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Pakistan hasn't been a reliable ally for the US since the Sinoindian War.

That's true with a lot of countries. You could probably say something similar in regards to India even if they've never properly been as close an alley as Pakistan has been (which obviously just became more complicated as you say, due to the Sino-Indian War since you have Russia, China and the US all angling for influence in the region since then). It's always typically focused on more narrow concerns and time and context dependent including regarding whose in power in either country.
 

Poe

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Pakistan hasn't been a reliable ally for the US since the Sinoindian War.
That's your opinion, in reality Pakistan has been a major US ally for generations and US opinion about that only shifted in 2021. They were instrumental in intelligence operations during the War on Terror, which is my point. The alliance is dying but US intelligence surely still has lots of clandestine sway it can call on in a pinch.
It's weird the U.S. would do that when the group in question is Mossad affiliated, something the CIA was angry about in 2012 IIRC because the former was pretending to be the latter in recruiting them.
Not sure if you've seen the news but the current administration is pretty desperate to apply pressure on Iran without actually engaging it directly. This doesn't at all seem weird to me
 

History Learner

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Not sure if you've seen the news but the current administration is pretty desperate to apply pressure on Iran without actually engaging it directly. This doesn't at all seem weird to me

Oh, I don't doubt we will use proxy groups against them; the Iranians striking the Kurds was because we use them against them. It just seems weird this one was U.S. backed; I think it's more likely they were Israeli backed and they got away with it because of the lack of central control in that region. Pakistani authorities are now reacting to save face, in a sense.
 

History Learner

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It's kind of funny that Pakistan's retaliation is striking at Balochi separatists in Iran, who are the common enemy of both Iran and Pakistan lol.
 

Husky_Khan

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Yes it's extremely kind of laugh out loud! :ROFLMAO:

Apparently the Pakistan's foreign ministry, or as Prince Harry used to call them, our Paki friends, released a statement.



No doubt the end of the world is coming, much like Pakistan almost did four years ago!
 

Marduk

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Considering that Pakistan hid Taliban and co. and Osama and that they are politically Sinophiles I have no sympathy for the government and elites of Pakistan. Frankly it's overdue that someone deals with Islamabad, unfortunately they had the idea "we will eat grass but we will have our nuke" just to spite India, so that's a big issue, unless they collapse before it becomes one, which might not be far fetched considering there are/should be still enough Pashtuns, Balochis, Kashmiris and Sindhis that really, really dislike the capital's elites. The Pakistani economy is also in the crapper and they are still dealing with the arrest of Imran Khan.
If Iran and Pakistan would escalate this up until their limited warheads are exchanged, there will be a rise in alcohol poisoning emergency calls in D.C due to the celebrations.
 

DarthOne

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If Iran and Pakistan would escalate this up until their limited warheads are exchanged, there will be a rise in alcohol poisoning emergency calls in D.C due to the celebrations.
I see this as a win win.

The Middle East won’t be in any state to cause the West problems and hopefully some of the morons in our governments will die of alcohol poisoning or subsequent complications.
 

TheRejectionist

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That's your opinion, in reality Pakistan has been a major US ally for generations and US opinion about that only shifted in 2021. They were instrumental in intelligence operations during the War on Terror, which is my point. The alliance is dying but US intelligence surely still has lots of clandestine sway it can call on in a pinch.
I am pretty sure if go on and do some research that statement of reliable for generations probably will come to wishful thinking especially considering how the hid the person responsable for 9/11.
That's true with a lot of countries. You could probably say something similar in regards to India even if they've never properly been as close an alley as Pakistan has been (which obviously just became more complicated as you say, due to the Sino-Indian War since you have Russia, China and the US all angling for influence in the region since then). It's always typically focused on more narrow concerns and time and context dependent including regarding whose in power in either country.
Pakistan's government is more doublefaced than a coin for cheating.
 

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