I sincerely doubt it, if anything they will probably use them to deter an American invasion and/or Israeli act's of war/sabotage.
Middle East Running Iranian threat news and discussion thread
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The regular chants of 'Death to America' that Khomeini leads. That'd be a start.
I'm american and say that all the time
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So we should take McCain’s Bomb Iran song from 2008 as proof of hostile intent to Iran and intention to attack it with nuclear weapons?
The only reasons Israel and the US want to "bomb Iran" are nukes and its expansionist policies. They have proxies almost controlling four different states and are pushing for more, I'd say those are pretty good reasons to want a nation bombed.
One is a meme, the other has been an explicit, open policy for decades.
The funny thing was Israel pretty much saved Irans ass when Iraq invaded them by smuggling them weapons, and was pretty much willing to act as a go between for Iran and the US. Also the US was pretty willing to let by gones be bygones before they fucked with the embasy which you know is a traditional cause for declaring war.
Iran flushed all of that down the toylet becasue they wanted Arab sempai to love them now ironically enough those same arabs would rather deal with Israel then Iran.
An ironic hell of their own making.
America has proxies in how many nations? What nations does Iran have proxies?There is nothing for the US in the middle east. Iran would happily sell oil for next to nothing if the US left them alone.
This is relevant how? The US is not a rogue state that is well-known for its despotic theocracy, public hanging of dissidents and open support of terrorist factions. All American "proxies" are either with full consent and cooperation of the hosting nation (military bases in NATO and other allied countries) or direct responses to attacks (Afghanistan). The only case you have is maaaaaybe Iraq, and even there it's flimsy because it's involvement in Iraq was as part of a large coalition of countries. The US is a respectable, democratic country with a permanent seat on the UN security council. It has no interests abroad beyond securing its trade and essential supplies such as oil. They are not trying to export an ideology by force of arms. Iraq could arguably construed as such, but it's in the past and was limited to the ambitions of just one administration, unlike the multi-decade systematic ambitions of Iran. Also the US is withdrawing forces from the ME, not expanding them like Iran does.
Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Yemen and Gaza to start us off. There are whispers of more coming up. The Quds force is an explicit, official Iranian government agency tasked with taking over countries by meddling in their political affairs and installing puppet regimes.
Hahahaha oh hell no. If the US left Iran alone, assuming they can overcome Israel, Turkey (both hard) and Egypt and Saudi Arabia (not as hard) Iran would rule the ME with an iron fist, commit atrocities left and right (think Assad gassing his own population, think second holocaust, think Shiite versions of ISIS using terror to instill harsh religious discipline in the population).
Rather than "leaving the US alone", now that local resistance to their ambitions will be squashed, it will then almost certainly try to attack the US on its own soil 9/11 style. There would be a 9/11 equivalent attempt every week for the foreseeable future if that is allowed to happen. They will not be able to destroy the US, but they can do a lot of damage and spread a lot of havoc. They already have the infrastructure on which they can build a terrorist empire within the US if they can get sanctions lifted and get their shit together on their own home turf first. That's operatives in place, and the ties to the criminal underworld with which to get materials to build bombs and other weapons.
And being genuine.
How do you know all this if I may ask?
I can look at the statements of Iranian leadership for the last 4 decades, on the behavior of their proxies, on their military R&D and nuclear program, and on their state ideology that calls for the export of the Islamic revolution, a central tenet of which is rule by Sharia law.
Just wanted to know because as you saw, other arguments saying they don't want to
I know. There are also arguments that China is great, America is evil, Communism is good and just and that we'll all be better off with the UN calling the shots. It's up to every individual to assess the various arguments and determine for themselves what's closer to truth and what's bullshit.
Speaking as an American, our ''government'' happily supports everything you accuse Iran of, so long as it's in our dear 1%'s interest. Do i really need to link you the American coup page on wikipedia?
American proxies are basically globalist aligned states throughout the west,latin america and portions of asia. The globalist faction is not stupid enough to brag about how much it controls, so we can only judge the actions of these nations. While they do not exclusively support the US 100% completely, they do so at an obviously abnormal level such as cordinated economic sanctions and participation in western military adventures. You say the US only has proxies with ''consent'' tell that nonsense to half the world.
Russia is also a respected and democratic power on the un as well, will you argue they should be trusted? Or will you argue they are not really democratic because they don't vote how you wan't and are obviously cheating ''cough'' last American election ''cough''.
When you say America, the globalist final boss is not trying to export it's beliefs are you high? America and the west have attempted numerous times using both hard power and soft to spread it's cancerous ideals. Everything from suporting blm in fucking latvia to subversive attempts in Hungary and poland(no reparations btw
) America has categorically been determined to spread it's ideology as much as possible since ww2. America has withdrawn pratically nothing from the middle east, how many military bases surrounding the terrifying Iranians have been officially decomissioned? While such ''trusted'' sources as cnn complain about the Afghanistan troop withdraw, the actual military bases on all sides of Iran remain.
Supporting an enemy of an enemy is not the same as making them a proxy, i also can not find much to find fault in them playing the geopolitics game. Enemies of they're nation are also playing the game in those nations as well. As a neutral observer i can not fault them for having the ''audacity'' to push back.
The quds force sounds like every inteligance agency ever tbh i'm not sure why i should condemn them specifically?. So what if Iran conquers the middle east
instead of sunni atrocities we will have shiite? Instead of sunni isis we will have shiite isis? Why should the west care?
A 9/11 equivalent every week, holy fuck i thought you were high before
Speaking as an American, our ''government'' happily supports everything you accuse Iran of, so long as it's in our dear 1%'s interest. Do i really need to link you the American coup page on wikipedia?
American proxies are basically globalist aligned states throughout the west,latin america and portions of asia. The globalist faction is not stupid enough to brag about how much it controls, so we can only judge the actions of these nations. While they do not exclusively support the US 100% completely, they do so at an obviously abnormal level such as cordinated economic sanctions and participation in western military adventures. You say the US only has proxies with ''consent'' tell that nonsense to half the world.
Russia is also a respected and democratic power on the un as well, will you argue they should be trusted? Or will you argue they are not really democratic because they don't vote how you wan't and are obviously cheating ''cough'' last American election ''cough''.
When you say America, the globalist final boss is not trying to export it's beliefs are you high? America and the west have attempted numerous times using both hard power and soft to spread it's cancerous ideals. Everything from suporting blm in fucking latvia to subversive attempts in Hungary and poland(no reparations btw
America has withdrawn pratically nothing from the middle east, how many military bases surrounding the terrifying Iranians have been officially decomissioned? While such ''trusted'' sources as cnn complain about the Afghanistan troop withdraw, the actual military bases on all sides of Iran remain.
Supporting an enemy of an enemy is not the same as making them a proxy, i also can not find much to find fault in them playing the geopolitics game. Enemies of they're nation are also playing the game in those nations as well. As a neutral observer i can not fault them for having the ''audacity'' to push back.
The quds force sounds like every inteligance agency ever tbh i'm not sure why i should condemn them specifically?. So what if Iran conquers the middle east
A 9/11 equivalent every week, holy fuck i thought you were high before
This is a reply borne out of the hatred of your own country, not out of any actual rational analysis. I would rather live under US-aligned administration any day of the week than under an Iran-aligned one, and anyone who knows anything about both countries would agree.
They have explicit, direct proxies who receive their orders from IRGC officers, not merely "enemies of enemies" they're supporting, and also politicians in high positions in their pockets. It looks like you aren't really familiar with what's been happening in the ME at all.
And yes, a 9/11 equivalent every week. You can write that down.
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I hate my government not the country itself, sorry if not fighting in the middle east is against my rational interest after my people have done so the past two decades to no real benefit. The people who tried to help america after 9/11 are going to do the next 9/11
if they actually ever attack the US on that scale it will be because of warmongery US politics and/or the rightfully hated apartheid genocidal and racist Israeli government.✝
Not all benefits of exercising your power as an empire is apparent with a superficial glance. I hope you won't have to find out the consequences of a completely isolationist policy like what you're pushing for, because they won't be pretty.
The people who tried to help america after 9/11 are going to do the next 9/11
Ah, so you've swallowed Iranian psyops hook, line and sinker, nice. They weren't trying to help America, they took the opportunity to try to create a rift between two of their enemies, the US and Saudi Arabia, that's all. Don't be naive.
No, when they attack the US it would be because of their Sharia-driven expansionist campaign, not because of any imaginary grievances (although they're certainly going to taunt them as an excuse for useful idiots like you to gobble up).
i never claimed to support a completely isolationist foreign policy, kindly don't put words in my mouth. While I personally see more benefits for my people and nation in utterly abandoning Israel and the middle east. That does not mean ''abandon everything''.
How many of the 9/11 hijackers were Saudi arabian again? The Iranians didn't need to do anything considering Saudi arabias own actions. Accurately assesing an opponent who has done the damage SA has to America is the opposite of ''naive''.
The ''expansionist campaign'' that has them surrounded by globalist military bases and they're infrastructure sabotaged by an apartheid state?
Almost all, so? How is their citizenship relevant? Can I blame the US government every time a US citizen does something stupid or evil abroad?
The Saudis had nothing to do with 9/11.
No, the expansionist campaign that they are literally openly talking about, literally implementing quite openly as we speak, that is literally a cornerstone of their equivalent of the constitution, and that has them puppeteering 5 countries as we speak. The actions that liberal democracies are taking against this theocratic fascist nation are in self defense, not the other way around.