Breaking News Proud Boys sentenced to 4 years

So basically you go to prison, no matter what you do? Guess killing in self-defense will be silently condoned. In fact, if this ever gets before a jury, I fully expect them to declare the man not

Hey, if you go to prison for self-defense, then you might as well put down two or three of the antifa goons for good, no?


As I pointed out before, no, that's not what happened in this case. You go to prison if you cross the line from self defense into assault. There's no self defense move that involves repeatedly a man kicking a guy as he's curled up the ground. That's just assault, even if he started it.

Self defense law allows you to use force, even lethal force if needed, to make someone else stop attacking. It does not mean you get to do whatever the fuck you want as long as the other guy throws the first punch, once they back down or are out of the fight, you have to stop as well.

There's a solution: Adapt the same strategy that Antifa and their backers use. They are fundamentally cowards. The moment they realize they are not safe anymore, they will scurry and hide like rats.

Cowards don't run around deliberately starting fist fights, even if they think they won't get caught. Antifa, and at least in this case the PB, are just a bunch of meathead idiots who want the satisfaction of personally beating up thier political opponents, but lack the foresight or intelligence to anticipate the consequences of their actions. That's why things calmed down a bit after someone actually died, because then they couldn't write this off as a bit of consequence free fisticuffs.
 
Fuck em both, proud bois are the right wing insecure masculinity meme made flesh and antifa is barely high school gang level competent.
 
They do in every case that I've ever seen of someone getting beaten and damn near killed by them.

In that one single run in during a larger riot? Sure, maybe (but then, that goes both ways, in this fight antifa was outnumbered near 2:1). But when looking at both sides it's generally closer to parity.
 
No, in every instance where antifa violence has gone beyond raised voices. Whenever they come up against real resistance, they either never attack, or run away. They are very much cowards who will try to gang up on people and beat them within an inch of their life.
 
No, in every instance where antifa violence has gone beyond raised voices. Whenever they come up against real resistance, they either never attack, or run away. They are very much cowards who will try to gang up on people and beat them within an inch of their life.
I mean Napolean did the same thing, focus your forces on vulnerabilities and flanks.
 
Napoleon regulary took on forces larger than his, your blackshirts never do.
Enjoy your circle jerk, bro, I'm not in the mood to theoreticize street violence. Everyone involved are deranged pussies or crazy people you try to avoid eye contact with on a bus. With that said, fuck the fratty shitheads, no one cares about fascist larps
 
No, in every instance where antifa violence has gone beyond raised voices. Whenever they come up against real resistance, they either never attack, or run away. They are very much cowards who will try to gang up on people and beat them within an inch of their life.

So, those guys forming shield walls and fighting with neo-nazi shield wall dudes are....who, exactly?
 
I mean Napolean did the same thing, focus your forces on vulnerabilities and flanks.

Did you honestly compare a bunch of street thug domestic terrorists to Napolean bonapart?

Nap actually was in the environment these thugs want to create, he helped to end the terror and create a stable french state, he then managed to create the napoleanic codes which are still used in europe to this day. He ended a lot of the legal anti semitism that was rampant across europe. Restored the polish state and took on entire european coalitions and won.

What ever his flaws and the man had a lot of them he deserves a lot more respect then these idiots do.
 
To be fair, most anyone involved in fighting tries to attack when the circumstances favor them, against the weakest part of the enemy they can manage, etc.

It's not like "charge headlong into the enemy's strongest forces" is a sound tactic under most circumstances.
 
To be fair, most anyone involved in fighting tries to attack when the circumstances favor them, against the weakest part of the enemy they can manage, etc.

It's not like "charge headlong into the enemy's strongest forces" is a sound tactic under most circumstances.
Everybody who's been in enough battles knows that you're just playing whackamole if you try to 1v1 an organized group. Sorry to say this, but if you really hate some dudes the correct tactic really is to either hurt one of them really bad or create a climate of fear that makes them afraid to go out at night alone. Of course that just leads to them further ganging which is the prime moment to firebomb outside a Denny's while screaming west siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii



That's what you guys crying sound like. No one cares about proud boy bitches. Most of them nowadays are just edgy college freshmen and drunk bums.
 
Fuck em both, proud bois are the right wing insecure masculinity meme made flesh and antifa is barely high school gang level competent.
Everybody who's been in enough battles knows that you're just playing whackamole if you try to 1v1 an organized group. Sorry to say this, but if you really hate some dudes the correct tactic really is to either hurt one of them really bad or create a climate of fear that makes them afraid to go out at night alone. Of course that just leads to them further ganging which is the prime moment to firebomb outside a Denny's while screaming west siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii



That's what you guys crying sound like. No one cares about proud boy bitches. Most of them nowadays are just edgy college freshmen and drunk bums.

Multiple people in this thread condemned the Proud Boys...
 
At the moment, they're the best we've got.

I brought that up because our friend was generally criticizing everyone here as if we were in lockstep on our thought on the issue... And did that while addressing someone who had actually been very critical of the Proud Boys. We get along with their differences of opinion and I hope others will see they actually exist instead of characterizing this board as a monolith.
 

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