Breaking News Proud Boys sentenced to 4 years

[ShieldWife]

Recently two Proud Boys were convicted and sentenced as a result of a fight with Antifa.

These two poor guys were charged with all kinds of crazy things like riot and attempted gang assault, for acting in defense against Antifa when the police allowed Antifa to attack victims with impunity.

No Antifa were arrested in this event. None. Those fucking police are pieces of human excrement as is the DA and everyone involved in this miscarriage of justice.

The bike lock professor didn’t even serve any time in jail despite multiple accounts of attempted murder, battery, and/or assault with a deadly weapon. When any Antifa faces time anywhere close to 4 fucking years?

The weight in America seriously needs to stand up here and do something, especially those with power like Trump. Otherwise the left is making it de facto legal to attack us and illegal for us to defend ourselves.

 

[Curved_Sw0rd]

Of course, of course it's in New York. Guess Portland can't have all the fun, huh?

 

[Deleted member]

Are we really surprised there are two standards of justice even though Antifa and Proud Boys are directly equivalent?

 

[ShieldWife]

Are we really surprised there are two standards of justice even though Antifa and Proud Boys are directly equivalent?

I wouldn’t say that they are equivalent. The PB formed to protect people from Antifa, which had been given free reign to terrorize innocent people trying to exercise their First Amendment rights. The PB show up at right wing events to defend people there. Have there been any incidents of PB showing up to attack peaceful people at left wing rallies?

I understand what you’re trying to say, but there is no equivalence between the two groups.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

I understand what you’re trying to say, but there is no equivalence between the two groups.

Tell that to the SJW’s and Fence Sitters who decide that they are “Just As Bad” or deny that ANTIFA is any bit of trouble

Guys on SB and our Sister Sites are probably cheering about the “Justice” that is “finally hitting the Nazi’s who are protected”

In they’re view, the Western Left has NO Power

 

[CarlManvers2019]

My prediction? Even if Trump wins next year, incidents like this will continue to occur, if not increase

 

[ShieldWife]

My prediction? Even if Trump wins next year, incidents like this will continue to occur, if not increase

They almost certainly will increase. It’s a working strategy for the left and it is very hard for the right to counter. It would be good if Trump could do something, but really what can he do? Have the justice department prosecute local police and prosecutors for corruption? What ever federal agencies he could use are probably on Antifa’s side more than his.

It’s a very troubling problem that probably has even more troubling solutions.

 

[Captain X]

There could be an increase in vigilantism on the part of basically everyone who isn't Antifa if law enforcement refuses to do their jobs.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

There could be an increase in vigilantism on the part of basically everyone who isn't Antifa if law enforcement refuses to do their jobs.

That will backfire, ANTIFA will look like good guys

 

[ShieldWife]

That will backfire, ANTIFA will look like good guys

Well, as we see from this story, even self defense backfires when you get four years of hard time for it. They win either way.

 

[Captain X]

That will backfire, ANTIFA will look like good guys

Maybe, but after a certain point, it's going to cease to matter, especially in light of how overtly Antifa can commit crimes without repercussion. This ruling just adds to this, because not only are they getting away with doing their very best to kill or maim people, but now trying to defend yourself or others from them can make you a felon.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

Well, as we see from this story, even self defense backfires when you get four years of hard time for it. They win either way.

Best way to win? Get beaten up by them whilst someone is taping it

Martyrdom works as well on the other side

 

[CarlManvers2019]

Maybe, but after a certain point, it's going to cease to matter, especially in light of how overtly Antifa can commit crimes without repercussion. This ruling just adds to this, because not only are they getting away with doing their very best to kill or maim people, but now trying to defend yourself or others from them can make you a felon.

The Left will believe no self defense is occurring in the first place

 

[ShieldWife]

Best way to win? Get beaten up by them whilst someone is taping it

Martyrdom works as well on the other side

Who is going to watch these videos and where will they see them? From Tim Pool maybe. How much longer is he going to be around? The new media and the free speech that the internet has made possible is balanced on a knife’s edge and may soon be gone.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

Who is going to watch these videos and where will they see them? From Tim Pool maybe. How much longer is he going to be around? The new media and the free speech that the internet has made possible is balanced on a life’s edge and may soon be gone.

Well shit, if it’s any consolation

GetWokeGoBroke is a thing

 

[ShieldWife]

Well shit, if it’s any consolation

GetWokeGoBroke is a thing

Is it? That may be wishful thinking. We still have MSNBC anchors making millions of dollars a year whose viewership isn’t that much higher than right wing YouTubers whose channels are demonetized and have to beg for donations, assuming that payment services even let them.

The left have a multi trillion dollar budget for their propaganda, because they have access to taxpayer funds and almost all of the big corporations. They can just about print money, or in some cases, literally print money. Justin Trudeau is doing a $600,000,000 bailout for Canadian media companies - so much for the woke going broke.

 

[ShieldWife]

I should have said CNN, they have lower viewer ratings than MSNBC. But, speaking of MSNBC, Chris Matthews is one of their highest rated pundits and has an average of 1.3 million viewers. A quick Google search shows that he makes about $5,000,000 a year as a salary, that doesn’t even include the budget of his show.

Compare him to Stefan Molyneux, who has 929,000 subscribers, but whose YouTube account is demonetized and so he can’t even get revenue from YouTube and so has to support the show (and himself) from donations.

 

[JagerIV]

There could be an increase in vigilantism on the part of basically everyone who isn't Antifa if law enforcement refuses to do their jobs.

Which lets them throw more enemies in jail. Thats the scary part of the catch 22 Antifa sets up: if your not breaking any laws, then Antifa can come break your window or legs. If you do anything to counter Antifa breaking your window or leg, well, now you've caught the eye of the law and have engaged in, shock, violence! And the chance that you engaged in that violence without in some way tripping over some law, well, the law is vast and subtle.

And if you do have vigilantism coming up, counter anominous violence, well, that just means they need to expand the police servailence state to find these terrorists. Said vast police state will of course be totally incapable of tracking any antifa doings.

 

[Captain X]

Best way to win? Get beaten up by them whilst someone is taping it

Martyrdom works as well on the other side

Except it hasn't. We already have examples of this, and no one has suffered any consequences for their crimes. That professor that clocked someone in the head was arrested, sure, but he had all his charges dropped. None of the people who beat up Andy Ngo have had anything happen to them either, and those are just two of the more high-profile cases. What point is there in "martyrdom" if nothing ever comes of it?

 

[ShieldWife]

Martyrdom works when you have all of the media outlets, newspapers, magazines, gaming companies, social media, tech companies, Hollywood, schools, universities, government agencies, celebrities, message boards, etc.

When you have those things, your martyrs get canonized. If those institutions are set against you, then your martyr is just another Nazi who got his just comeuppance.