President Biden is Your Legitimate President (Yes, even if he cheated)

[KilroywasNOTHere]

I think that they do. They hate white people, hate men, hate Western civilization. They will often sacrifice wealth or power to serve this agenda.

it's not a sacrifice if they think it will win them the endgame it's a long term investment. Look at how they react to blacks and lgbts who support "White supremacy." it's not about race or the west it's about bringing back feudalism (or their idea of it if you really want to give the whole "Not true feudalism argument) as soon as they succeed they will throw the useful idiots away like trash. Heck they are already starting to. Look at biden.

 

[Spartan303]

Several House Democrats also made it clear that they would never support impeaching Trump, including Nancy Pelosi herself, up until they impeached him. Twice.

The whole impeachment is DOA. If they go ahead and do it then the Democrats in Red states will suffer a colossal backlash that will see them unseated. Trump is still hugely popular in the Republican party. He lost 12% of the Republican support after the Capital Hill incident. Since then he's regained 9% of that. You can't keep the man down. And those Democrats (in red states) and Moderate Republicans know this. They love their jobs more than they hate Trump. In this case its purely enlightened Self Interest.

 

[Terthna]

The whole impeachment is DOA. If they go ahead and do it then the Democrats in Red states will suffer a colossal backlash that will see them unseated. Trump is still hugely popular in the Republican party. He lost 12% of the Republican support after the Capital Hill incident. Since then he's regained 9% of that. You can't keep the man down. And those Democrats (in red states) and Moderate Republicans know this. They love their jobs more than they hate Trump. In this case its purely enlightened Self Interest.

They did do it; it passed the House both times. Whatever you believe the consequences might be, they clearly do not care.

 

[Spartan303]

They did do it; it passed the House both times. Whatever you believe the consequences might be, they clearly do not care.

Yeah and most of those Reps paid for it with their jobs. Or have lost all support. Many ran on Kitchen Table issues then turned around and voted for impeachment. They'll not make that mistake again.

 

[Terthna]

Yeah and most of those Reps paid for it with their jobs. Or have lost all support. Many ran on Kitchen Table issues then turned around and voted for impeachment. They'll not make tjar mistake again.

You'll forgive me if I'm not as optimistic about what will happen as your are; I believe they've long since passed the point of no return, and are beyond recognizing their own mistakes as such. Especially considering the fact that, even if they torpedo their political careers (remember; people believed the first impeachment would guarantee Trump's victory in the presidential election, and look how well that prediction panned out), someone else amongst the uniparty is probably already ready and willing to take their place.

 

[Spartan303]

You'll forgive me if I'm not as optimistic about what will happen as your are; I believe they've long since passed the point of no return, and are beyond recognizing their own mistakes as such. Especially considering the fact that, even if they torpedo their political careers (remember; people believed the first impeachment would guarantee Trump's victory in the presidential election, and look how well that prediction panned out), someone else amongst the uniparty is probably already ready and willing to take their place.

That's fair you think that and I certainly won't begrudge you that.

 

[Terthna]

I warned all of you about that QAnon bullshit, of people like Tim Pool, and those who are so painfully, obviously trying to get a fat paycheck for riling you up.

I can't believe I didn't catch this earlier, but you clearly never watched any of his videos regarding the election; he consistently tried to get people to calm down, and spoke out against "QAnon bullshit". His position has been that widespread election fraud probably didn't happen, which he has consistently gotten flack for from his audience. Ironically, he'd probably agree with everything you just said; just without blaming himself for things he did not do.

 

[Shermpotter]

Anyone who doesn't support Trump because he argues with the press, or talks mean on Twitter or any other inane shit is just a lazy neophyte who either isn't aware of the problems of modern day government or doesn't care. I found it amazingly refreshing that we had a (R) POTUS who fought back. To me, it's about time we gave them as good as we get. The problem is, the media and Big Tech are doing their best to subvert everything we conservatives stand for. As for 6 January, I shrugged. I believed and seem to be proven correct since that this was largely a false flag operation. The Dems certainly had plenty of notice it was going to happen and time to prepare. I can guarantee you this, if law enforcement looks the other way, it will mostly happen in blue areas. How do I know this? Because I am one in a red area, and I know what our leadership is telling us. Take that for what you think it's worth.

 

[gral]

Not related to topic, but it's good to see another HP&CA board member in here.

 

[The Original Sixth]

Biden begins launch of promised commission to 'reform' the Supreme Court

@Airedale260 , @The Original Sixth , it's time to face the facts. Your way of doing things doesn't work anymore.

He says he isn't going to pack the court in that and previous interviews. If he tried, it would likely not pass the Senate.

 

[Cherico]

He says he isn't going to pack the court in that and previous interviews. If he tried, it would likely not pass the Senate.

I'm going to agree with sixth its not going to be Biden that packs the supreme court and posions the well its going to be the neo optimates/democrat that takes over if the next populist leader loses in a mad dash to maintain power at all costs.

 

[The Original Sixth]

I can't believe I didn't catch this earlier, but you clearly never watched any of his videos regarding the election; he consistently tried to get people to calm down, and spoke out against "QAnon bullshit". His position has been that widespread election fraud probably didn't happen, which he has consistently gotten flack for from his audience. Ironically, he'd probably agree with everything you just said; just without blaming himself for things he did not do.

Oh please. Tim Pool makes his money by reposting ACTUAL news sites and adding his asinine talking points to them. He doesn't have to embrace a certain position, because his entire business is towards selling outrage to Trump voters. Sargon did that same shit in 2016.

 

[The Original Sixth]

I'm going to agree with sixth its not going to be Biden that packs the supreme court and posions the well its going to be the neo optimates/democrat that takes over if the next populist leader loses in a mad dash to maintain power at all costs.

Even Obama had problems with that. A populist presidents is FANTASTIC with voters, but is generally despised by the actual legislators. Because they're not as eager to drink in the propaganda. They want their pet projects to go through. That's why the Obamacare bill was complete and utter shit. And why Trump could not get legislation through.

 

[Doomsought]

He says he isn't going to pack the court in that and previous interviews. If he tried, it would likely not pass the Senate.

I rmemeber him just giving non answeres without committing to anything.

 

[Cherico]

Even Obama had problems with that. A populist presidents is FANTASTIC with voters, but is generally despised by the actual legislators. Because they're not as eager to drink in the propaganda. They want their pet projects to go through. That's why the Obamacare bill was complete and utter shit. And why Trump could not get legislation through.

Trump was in many ways to me a pleasant surprise, I expected a total dumpster fire but instead it was 4 years of no new wars, large portions of the wall were built, the economy improved the country had the greatest reindustralization weve had in decades we achieved energy independence and Isreal normalized its relations with a few arab countries some thing the democrats told us for decades was impossible with out the palastinains giving it their blessing.

 

[Terthna]

He says he isn't going to pack the court in that and previous interviews. If he tried, it would likely not pass the Senate.

He also said he wouldn't shut down the Keystone pipeline; he's a politician, he lies. As for it not passing the Senate; that's just your opinion. And your opinion, as of late, hasn't exactly panned out.

Oh please. Tim Pool makes his money by reposting ACTUAL news sites and adding his asinine talking points to them. He doesn't have to embrace a certain position, because his entire business is towards selling outrage to Trump voters. Sargon did that same shit in 2016.

Point, but I'd like to also point out that's what everyone in the news business have been doing since the invention of the printing press, including said "actual" news sites (most of whom are also just repeating something someone else posted to the internet these days, adding their own asinine talking points to it); selling outrage. In singling out people like Tim Pool, you're missing the forest for the trees. Besides; it's not as if he's lying or intentionally misrepresenting anything, like every professional news organization often does. The things he talks about are things we should be outraged over; because otherwise, nothing will ever change for the better.

 

[The Original Sixth]

He also said he wouldn't shut down the Keystone pipeline; he's a politician, he lies. As for it not passing the Senate; that's just your opinion. And your opinion, as of late, hasn't exactly panned out.

My opinion has panned out more or less as one might expect. Wrong about the outcome of the election? Sure. Wrong about the outcome of how the overturn went? Sure. But nothing outrageous and well within the margin of error.

I hope you realize that there is a great deal of difference between cancelling a pipeline that will have little to no effect on domestic or foreign affairs for the US is very, very different than packing the Supreme Court. And doing so would most likely lead to an outright slaughter in the mid-terms. Especially if SCOTUS were to condemn the action. And it would immediately force the Republicans to respond in kind. And given that the Democrats tend to be out of power more often than the Republicans when it comes to Congress, such a move would only serve to cripple the Democrats once the Republicans returned the favor. And they would return the favor.

Biden is most probably going to look at ways of trimming SCOTUS's power. The whole point of using the judiciary to create laws was because the Democrats could never form a consensus on their own, so legislation was never going to happen. Right now, if Congress were to try and pass gay marriage, it would probably not make it through the Senate. Even with the Democrats holding both. If they can't do that, what makes you think that going for broke and packing the court is a good idea?

Point, but I'd like to also point out that's what everyone in the news business have been doing since the invention of the printing press, including said "actual" news sites (most of whom are also just repeating something someone else posted to the internet these days, adding their own asinine talking points to it); selling outrage. In singling out people like Tim Pool, you're missing the forest for the trees. Besides; it's not as if he's lying or intentionally misrepresenting anything, like every professional news organization often does. The things he talks about are things we should be outraged over; because otherwise, nothing will ever change for the better.

And I don't generally read or trust those same news sources that he's quoting, exactly for that reason. The difference is also that most people seem to recognize that these news organizations are out for their own wallets. I don't think that's sunk in with Tim Pool, whose selling point is his personality and his spoken opinions, which his viewers often identify with, hence granting him greater persuasion with that group.

 

[The Original Sixth]

And you're buckbroken enough to believe that?

Oh, you out of time out now?

You know what? The sooner America embraces fascism and starts to physically remove cuckservatives and Leftoids the better.

Fascism has never aided any American cause and is in fact, directly opposed to it. Anyone foolish enough to impose any sort of fascism on the United States will fail. We can't even impose proper quarantines during a pandemic. Expecting someone to rule over us with an iron fist and NOT be torn asunder by a storm of hundreds of millions is the fancy of fools.

This is insane, to see you people bowing your head and acting like cattle in a slaughter house, loping to your doom.

Well, I must assume that your English is terrible, because you always seem to draw different conclusions from what I plainly write. I tell people that if they're upset with how the election went, to take it to their state legislators, should they be in the position of having been from a state where the election was contested. And that is easily done. Either supporting Orange Republicans or simply refusing to vote for Red Republicans.

Now we're talking about disliking certain internet personalities and you've seemed to have concluded that I accept everything mainstream media tells me, that I believe the words of every passing politician, and that I'm mentally broken.

It's fortunate we don't strike up a conversation about Star Trek, or you might be calling us Warsie cucks or 40k boners.

 

[Terthna]

My opinion has panned out more or less as one might expect. Wrong about the outcome of the election? Sure. Wrong about the outcome of how the overturn went? Sure. But nothing outrageous and well within the margin of error.

I hope you realize that there is a great deal of difference between cancelling a pipeline that will have little to no effect on domestic or foreign affairs for the US is very, very different than packing the Supreme Court. And doing so would most likely lead to an outright slaughter in the mid-terms. Especially if SCOTUS were to condemn the action. And it would immediately force the Republicans to respond in kind. And given that the Democrats tend to be out of power more often than the Republicans when it comes to Congress, such a move would only serve to cripple the Democrats once the Republicans returned the favor. And they would return the favor.

Biden is most probably going to look at ways of trimming SCOTUS's power. The whole point of using the judiciary to create laws was because the Democrats could never form a consensus on their own, so legislation was never going to happen. Right now, if Congress were to try and pass gay marriage, it would probably not make it through the Senate. Even with the Democrats holding both. If they can't do that, what makes you think that going for broke and packing the court is a good idea?

I disagree with your assessment, to put it mildly, but there's no point in trying to argue against it here; we'll just have to wait and see what happens.

And I don't generally read or trust those same news sources that he's quoting, exactly for that reason. The difference is also that most people seem to recognize that these news organizations are out for their own wallets. I don't think that's sunk in with Tim Pool, whose selling point is his personality and his spoken opinions, which his viewers often identify with, hence granting him greater persuasion with that group.

Which he keeps trying to use to convince people to stop getting upset, to stop fighting. It's not working out for him; his audience has been turning on him for weeks.

 

[KnightTemplar]

The sooner America embraces fascism and starts to physically remove cuckservatives and Leftoids the better.

If you really want to embrace Fascism you can just join the left. They are the ones censoring opinions, criminalizing dissent, starting wars, and working with big business to manipulate the economy. Fascism has always been a leftist ideology. Don't buy into the left's propaganda that it's really right wing.