Politicians and Government Cringe Thread
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What makes it even more disturbing is the way they characterize it, as being justified by us being in a state of crisis.
These sons of bitches would create perpetual crises out of nothing to hand themselves that kind of power, if we let them.
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Yes, that would be the lesser evil, we have already been through massive online purges of anything right wing, so yes I don't trust corperate america to have that much power over the public square. I don't trust the government with that kind of power either and I defiently dont trust both working in cohoots like we saw under Biden.
Blasterbot
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I would indeed have the government say that 1st amendment protections apply to all social media than say that social media can be a back door for the government to suppress speech they dislike in violation of the 1st amendment yes.
Blasterbot
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I want the government to protect speech. you want the government to be allowed to have back doors to block the speech of dissenters. we are not the same.
It's a private company.
They should be able to do what ever.
The government would then have to allow grooming of children to be allowed because guess what
Stopping it would be going against free speech.
Or calling for so many things from the left would be allowed as well. And the right wouldn't be able to stop it
They should be able to do what ever.
The government would then have to allow grooming of children to be allowed because guess what
Stopping it would be going against free speech.
Or calling for so many things from the left would be allowed as well. And the right wouldn't be able to stop it
Blasterbot
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It is a private company doing things at the request of the government.
No they shouldn't. there are many restrictions on what private individuals are allowed to do. for instance if they wanted to make a social media version of epstien's island where they could share like and comment on CP it would be restricted.
no because once again certain things are illegal to show to kids. try going to your local school and showing some old play boy magazines to the kids. police will want to have words.
the government using corporations to shut down free speech is somehow free speech? gonna need you to elaborate on that mind twisting.
correct. the left enjoys the same 1st amendment protections that the right does. the difference is things only get enforced one way. I hope I don't need to explain why one way enforcement of rules is bad. it just weakens the legitimacy of the government you love and serve.
...so the government should allow stuff that is not illegal, like drag shows, etc, from being restricted on behest of some party, because they do it to the right.
Gotcha.
The corporation can always so no.
Like Rumble did.
Blasterbot
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drag shows are fine as long as they aren't targeted at kids. otherwise they should be treated like taking a kid to a strip club. I wouldn't go to one because they are weird and degenerate. but for some that transgressiveness is the appeal of it. like when a 12 year old squeaker in a CoD lobby runs down the list of every racial slur he knows.
it is weird that you are ignoring the part that the government is telling social media companies to take down things that aren't illegal. pretending that that isn't the government using an intermediary to restrict its citizen's speech would be kinda sus if you weren't our fed out in the open.
The media companies willingly do it.
Simple as.
They can say no.
You are basically saying the media companies can't conduct in thier own buisness. That they have to be open to all.
hyperspacewizard
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the government “asking” you to do something is not the same as another normal person or even business asking you something. The government is powerful and not just in direct in your face ways. So maybe if you say no your business starts having problems or your not invited to the big meetups and maybe judges and prosecutors start going after you.
Blasterbot
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if by media you mean all media companies no that isn't what we are talking about. nobody is going to mandate Fox has a certain number of antifa members there and nobody is gonna mandate CNN put patriot front up. that is because they are publishers with an editorial bias.
if however you are talking social media the whole point is that they are the new public town square. this means that they should be treated as such. if it isn't illegal to do it in a public square it should be fine there. having the government go to these companies and tell them who to censor would be the same as having the government do that in the public square. just because the government asks the Pinkertons nicely to remove that wrong thinker he is backing the wrong party and they choose to say yes we will and do it doesn't mean the government isn't responsible.
Blasterbot
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the government deserves no benefit of the doubt. the government asks the companies to do things. the companies do the governments bidding. making them agents of the state and so they should not be used to crush americans 1st ammendment rights. just because the government is operating a step removed from this doesn't change their culpability. it just means they are trying to be sneaky about it because they aren't allowed to do it. letting them do it through a patsy isn't better.
Doomsought
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It is illegal for a private company to violate your constitutional rights on the behalf of the government.
LordsFire
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And it isn't like this is just a conceptual abstract either.
This is a matter of standing law.
Totally disagree with you on this one regarding ANY social media website.
Because of their nature, where the POSTER is the publisher, they have become the 'town square'. As such, censorship by the company is an attack on the 1st amendment.
It's that simple.
This is already happening right now, only the right gets censored deplatformed debanked and periodically murdered in the streets by left wing actors. The best we can do right now is an evener playing field. With that well the left simply does not understand the value of money and goes through it quickly while we understand its value and can thus outlast them and get better value for our buck.
Add to that the left basically not having children and the right owns the long term but you still need to get your message out at all hence this.