peter Zeihan 2020




The US is getting into the money transfer game I don't think Peter sees how this can go wrong or why people would mistrust it.

Honestly, most people don't understand what is going wrong or why it matters.

FedNow is a massive win for the average citizen.

Why? Because suddenly the PayPal middle man has to obey the Constitution and is part of the federal government so discrimination gets really hard. Basically, any legal transaction could be done at the same transaction cost whether it is buying guns or bread.

At least at the payment processor level. Now FedNow isn't something that the average citizen will get access to. But your bank will.

What this means is that you will see the same speed of transfer as, say, PayPal, at the same cost and security of the ACH system.

FedNow isn't a central bank digital currency, it is a way for banks to move money between themselves effectively instantly, at scale, with security, with minimal additional regulatory burden, for free.

A central bank digital currency would be if the Fed decided to start issuing prepaid Visa cards that you could buy for cash. Or made their own BitCoin, etc. A proper CBDC isn't going to happen in the US anytime soon, if ever. It would cause way too many problems for what too many entrenched interests.
 
And how well has that turned out for us before?

Like I know China is internally a vicious oligarchy, but have we completely forgotten how to do any kind of soft power? For Christ's sake, we could've built our own silk road in Africa decades ago if we wanted.

Cuba is basically in our swimming pool, the US should've had a plan to seduce them the moment Castro kicked the bucket. Socialism is like an abusive husband, it thrives best when it can keep its spouse isolated and gaslighted about what a normal relationship is supposed to look like.
Leaders of banana republics really love bribery, and CCP understands that, that's how they have soft power. Through hard cash.
 
And how well has that turned out for us before?

Like I know China is internally a vicious oligarchy, but have we completely forgotten how to do any kind of soft power? For Christ's sake, we could've built our own silk road in Africa decades ago if we wanted.

Cuba is basically in our swimming pool, the US should've had a plan to seduce them the moment Castro kicked the bucket. Socialism is like an abusive husband, it thrives best when it can keep its spouse isolated and gaslighted about what a normal relationship is supposed to look like.
Idk.
I think the Cuban population in the US would be all for getting Cuba some freedom. Maybe even make it a territory
 


Basically the Ukraine war has taught the US a few lessons and Ukraine is using their drones to take out weapon systems Russia uses to maintain their country which really hurts.
 
No, i don't think Cuba invented abortion, they do use it a lot though.
And no, Cuba has no monopoly on "modern anti-viral drugs".


Oh come on, now you are just proving that you are repeating propaganda claims that can be easily countered with fucking wikipedia.

Wow, i guess New Zealand and GlaxoSmithKline are just a fictional country and a fictional company.
Sorry, i can't take New Zealand denialists seriously.
Oh this is just embarrassing to see on our boards.

Let's take a look:

MeNZB: Outer membrane vesicles extracted from a strain of Neisseria meningitidis B
VA-MENGOC-BC: Synthetic Outer membrane vesicles replicating those of Neisseria meningitidis B

MeNZB is VA-MENGOC-BC. They just couldn't manage the same the same sophistication as Cuba and did a minor change to avoid paying the medical patents, and, per the Wikipedia link:
People who have been fully immunised [with MeNZB] may still carry the meningococcus bacteria and may still contract meningococcal disease.

So they also made it shitty cheap knockoff that doesn't work as well as the original.
OMG, a mid income commie country produces some drugs!

Being cheap and forcing doctors to work for cheap is not something that can be qualified as an achievement. Just like we all buy lots of shit made in China...

Yeah mediocre country has a handful of minor advancements, like dozens upon dozens of other mediocre countries, but it's propagandizing them like it's the fucking medical SpaceX, because it's a commie shithole who needs that for propaganda, while for other countries, that's tuesday.

You brought up the patent numbers like its decisive, and yeah, China has actually globally significant pharma sector, unlike Cuba.
Wow, whole 25 million dollars of exports!
Compare to Poland:
4.2 billion dollars, and no one even is hyping up Poland as the "medical juggernaut", wonder why?
Dude, just stop. Nobody's going to buy your attempt at moving the goalposts post-hoc and claiming I'm the one who started dick-waving over the number of patents compared with Japan.

Now you've started dickwaving about dollar outputs since your patent numbers fell apart, guess I have to knock that down too. Whatever you're smoking to fall for such stupid propaganda, tell me where I can get some.

In 2006, Cuba pulled in not 25 million but an estimated 2.3 billion from their medical industry. Estimates for 2014 were 8.2 billion though that hasn't been confirmed and we don't have more recent numbers. This is despite the fact that Cuba sends a massive percentage of its medical industry for free as part of humanitarian missions, and to promote the values of communism. Thier output is positively mammoth for their size, and they frequently manage feats even first world nations can't match, f'rex Cubans are pretty much always the tip of the spear and acknowledged as the world's experts at dealing with Ebola.


I have little doubt you'll try to shift again and claim I'm the one who first started talking money now that you've been proven a dupe for lies again. Backpedaling and claiming everything that doesn't agree with your preconceived notions is "propaganda" seem to be the only strings on your bow.

Idk.
I think the Cuban population in the US would be all for getting Cuba some freedom. Maybe even make it a territory
This seems possible, but runs into other issues. Cuba has used the US as an escape valve for dissidents for decades. One of the reasons they manage to be stable despite being, well, Cuba, is that anybody who doesn't like it can just leave and hit the US. That means the remaining population is generally the most loyal and committed, and the guerilla campaign to weed them out would be brutal.
 
Oh this is just embarrassing to see on our boards.

Let's take a look:

MeNZB: Outer membrane vesicles extracted from a strain of Neisseria meningitidis B
VA-MENGOC-BC: Synthetic Outer membrane vesicles replicating those of Neisseria meningitidis B

MeNZB is VA-MENGOC-BC. They just couldn't manage the same the same sophistication as Cuba and did a minor change to avoid paying the medical patents, and, per the Wikipedia link:
People who have been fully immunised [with MeNZB] may still carry the meningococcus bacteria and may still contract meningococcal disease.

So they also made it shitty cheap knockoff that doesn't work as well as the original.

Dude, just stop. Nobody's going to buy your attempt at moving the goalposts post-hoc and claiming I'm the one who started dick-waving over the number of patents compared with Japan.

Now you've started dickwaving about dollar outputs since your patent numbers fell apart, guess I have to knock that down too. Whatever you're smoking to fall for such stupid propaganda, tell me where I can get some.

In 2006, Cuba pulled in not 25 million but an estimated 2.3 billion from their medical industry. Estimates for 2014 were 8.2 billion though that hasn't been confirmed and we don't have more recent numbers. This is despite the fact that Cuba sends a massive percentage of its medical industry for free as part of humanitarian missions, and to promote the values of communism. Thier output is positively mammoth for their size, and they frequently manage feats even first world nations can't match, f'rex Cubans are pretty much always the tip of the spear and acknowledged as the world's experts at dealing with Ebola.


I have little doubt you'll try to shift again and claim I'm the one who first started talking money now that you've been proven a dupe for lies again. Backpedaling and claiming everything that doesn't agree with your preconceived notions is "propaganda" seem to be the only strings on your bow.


This seems possible, but runs into other issues. Cuba has used the US as an escape valve for dissidents for decades. One of the reasons they manage to be stable despite being, well, Cuba, is that anybody who doesn't like it can just leave and hit the US. That means the remaining population is generally the most loyal and committed, and the guerilla campaign to weed them out would be brutal.
You would probably be surprised
 
Oh this is just embarrassing to see on our boards.

Let's take a look:

MeNZB: Outer membrane vesicles extracted from a strain of Neisseria meningitidis B
VA-MENGOC-BC: Synthetic Outer membrane vesicles replicating those of Neisseria meningitidis B

MeNZB is VA-MENGOC-BC. They just couldn't manage the same the same sophistication as Cuba and did a minor change to avoid paying the medical patents, and, per the Wikipedia link:
People who have been fully immunised [with MeNZB] may still carry the meningococcus bacteria and may still contract meningococcal disease.
Yeah, fanboy harder. You said Cuba was the only country with a vaccine against it, while it turned out other countries do have those, so now you backtrack to fanboying how the Cuban one is so much better than all others, which i doubt.
So they also made it shitty cheap knockoff that doesn't work as well as the original.
I don't know if its shitty cheap knockoff, and neither do you, and i'll be damned if i trust your word after the sheer fanboying i saw from you recently.
Dude, just stop. Nobody's going to buy your attempt at moving the goalposts post-hoc and claiming I'm the one who started dick-waving over the number of patents compared with Japan.

Now you've started dickwaving about dollar outputs since your patent numbers fell apart, guess I have to knock that down too. Whatever you're smoking to fall for such stupid propaganda, tell me where I can get some.

In 2006, Cuba pulled in not 25 million but an estimated 2.3 billion from their medical industry. Estimates for 2014 were 8.2 billion though that hasn't been confirmed and we don't have more recent numbers. This is despite the fact that Cuba sends a massive percentage of its medical industry for free as part of humanitarian missions, and to promote the values of communism. Thier output is positively mammoth for their size, and they frequently manage feats even first world nations can't match, f'rex Cubans are pretty much always the tip of the spear and acknowledged as the world's experts at dealing with Ebola.
From the wiki article you linked:
However, the targeting of poor countries reduces the hard currency potential of missions abroad.[1] In 2006, Cuba's earnings from medical services, including the export of doctors, amounted to US$2,312M

including the export of doctors

including the export of doctors
Da, comrade, indentured servitude is great business, and it's even greater in expensive services like medicine, stupid westoids lack the communist cunning to match this, Cuba medical superpower!
Truly communist science has advanced, in the 80's there were only radioactive waste removal biorobots, and look at them now, medical biorobots!

Of course normal countries don't have such a boost to their statistics...
Even if, Poland has almost twice that, and no one thinks it's a medical superpower.
Dollar values not good enough for ya, patents not good enough for ya, what do you want to measure Cuban medical industry's size other than glow-up articles written by shills and crooks (because i will admit that commie countries definitely can compete with the best in that)? Is that the goalpost you whine so much about?
What is this, affirmative action accolades for commie countries?

I have little doubt you'll try to shift again and claim I'm the one who first started talking money now that you've been proven a dupe for lies again. Backpedaling and claiming everything that doesn't agree with your preconceived notions is "propaganda" seem to be the only strings on your bow.
Are those the same experts as the Chinese Health Organization, with Ethiopian commie leader at the helm? That would explain a lot...
 
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Yeah, fanboy harder. You said Cuba was the only country with a vaccine against it, while it turned out other countries do have those, so now you backtrack to fanboying how the Cuban one is so much better than all others, which i doubt.

I don't know if its shitty cheap knockoff, and neither do you, and i'll be damned if i trust your word after the sheer fanboying i saw from you recently.
No, you don't know, I know perfectly well. As far as fanboying, that's pretty ridiculous, I've condemned Cuba repeatedly in this very thread. I just also acknowledge that people I disagree with aren't completely incapable gimps.

I find it hilarious that you're accusing me of backtracking now, it's true that everything they accuse you of, they do themselves. If I draw a picture and you photocopy it, we haven't both drawn a picture. But even if I did deign to concede the point, it doesn't affect my actual claim in the slightest, you're harping on a minor detail out of several dozen impressive feats that doesn't actually address the feat itself because you got nothing.

From the wiki article you linked:
However, the targeting of poor countries reduces the hard currency potential of missions abroad.[1] In 2006, Cuba's earnings from medical services, including the export of doctors, amounted to US$2,312M

including the export of doctors

including the export of doctors
Da, comrade, indentured servitude is great business, and it's even greater in expensive services like medicine, stupid westoids lack the communist cunning to match this, Cuba medical superpower!
Truly communist science has advanced, in the 80's there were only radioactive waste removal biorobots, and look at them now, medical biorobots!

Of course normal countries don't have such a boost to their statistics...
Even if, Poland has almost twice that, and no one thinks it's a medical superpower.
Ha ha! Got your ass beat red when you posted false numbers so you gotta move the goalposts and complain that the Cubans aren't doing it fairly, suddenly the numbers aren't good enough for you just as I predicted so you harp on an irrelevancy. And this? This is just a shitty attempt at pedantic wordgames.


Hey look! According to Mardukian logic, this is proof the US is engaging in the slave trade!

As is I agree, Cuba's not exactly a moral paragon. They've been criticized for the confiscatory, one might say communist, taxes on doctors, and the fact that doctors on official missions can face jail time for just abandoning the job. However, you're conflating sending doctors on humanitarian aid and training missions with actual chattel slavery here, only the most rabid faboys would make such a leap. I'm pretty sure if @Zachowon just abandoned his post while on deployment he'd face jail time too, and I don't think he'd claim that military service is slavery.

Dollar values not good enough for ya, patents not good enough for ya, what do you want to measure Cuban medical industry's size other than glow-up articles written by shills and crooks (because i will admit that commie countries definitely can compete with the best in that)? Is that the goalpost you whine so much about?
What is this, affirmative action accolades for commie countries?

Are those the same experts as the Chinese Health Organization, with Ethiopian commie leader at the helm? That would explain a lot...
Wow that's sad, you're so utterly predictable you replied to my note that all you do is claim every source that disagrees with you is propaganda... by calling the sources that disagree with your propaganda. Yes, anything that disagrees with you is a shill and propagandist no matter how reliable, anything that agrees with you is obviously perfectly true even if it's coming from a raving lunatic.

Given the completely unreliable stuff you cited earlier, this is some incredible levels of double standard. Are you sure you're not a rabid leftie? You both repeatedly quote them as sources and use all their tactics in your debate methods. I'm genuinely getting flashbacks to SB here and their tendency to whine about how any source that isn't deep left and supports their preconceived ideas is fake news and should be banned.

Edit: You know what? I should have some fun with this and your boring predictable tactics.
Fox News singing the praises of Cuba's medical program. Go ahead and claim Fox News is a leftist propaganda shill, I dare you.
 
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No, you don't know, I know perfectly well. As far as fanboying, that's pretty ridiculous, I've condemned Cuba repeatedly in this very thread. I just also acknowledge that people I disagree with aren't completely incapable gimps.

I find it hilarious that you're accusing me of backtracking now, it's true that everything they accuse you of, they do themselves. If I draw a picture and you photocopy it, we haven't both drawn a picture. But even if I did deign to concede the point, it doesn't affect my actual claim in the slightest, you're harping on a minor detail out of several dozen impressive feats that doesn't actually address the feat itself because you got nothing.
The impressiveness of said feats not showing up in any objective numbers, only glow up media pieces that such governments have will and means to arrange.
Ha ha! Got your ass beat red when you posted false numbers so you gotta move the goalposts and complain that the Cubans aren't doing it fairly, suddenly the numbers aren't good enough for you just as I predicted so you harp on an irrelevancy. And this? This is just a shitty attempt at pedantic wordgames.
No, you got your head beat with the fact that the real numbers are shit, and your "real" numbers are mostly based on the fact that Cuba's indentured medical servitude is both a unique and profitable business that however has nothing to do with advanced medical technology, and everything to do with advanced oppression technology.
Those aren't pedantic word games, this is a specific qualifier used by your source of choice.
If you have a source you trust that is slavery excluding, post it now, or walk away.

Hey look! According to Mardukian logic, this is proof the US is engaging in the slave trade!

No, we are not playing word games, we both know that this is not a call to import doctors from an exporter, aka Cuba, not many choices in that regard.
I have linked many times about the rather inhumane procedure involved.

Cubas biggest export, well educated slaves! The trick is that they aren't sold, but rented.
I'm not aware of any western country sending its soldiers to serve in some foreign country, and not only not paying them, but pocketing most of the pay they get from that country.

Not all the doctors working abroad are happy with the arrangement. In 2017 some 150 of those in Brazil filed lawsuits in local courts challenging the agreement and attempting to break from the Cuban government to practice independently in Brazil. On Nov. 29 several more doctors filed claims against PAHO, arguing that the U.N. agency has made $73 million dollars off the Cubans' work and supported conditions that violate international laws on forced labor.


Around 2,000 Cubans will stay on in Brazil in defiance of their government, a Brazilian diplomatic source told AFP. Keller says some Cubans could try to go to the U.S., which has been historically welcomed Cubans who turn their back on the regime.
That happened under Bolsanaro btw.
And for those who don't know, PAHO is part of WHO, and the claims against it sound quite damning.
Cuban doctors in Brazil file lawsuit claiming U.N. agency made $75 million from "slave trade." If true, it's criminal.
As is I agree, Cuba's not exactly a moral paragon. They've been criticized for the confiscatory, one might say communist, taxes on doctors, and the fact that doctors on official missions can face jail time for just abandoning the job. However, you're conflating sending doctors on humanitarian aid and training missions with actual chattel slavery here, only the most rabid faboys would make such a leap. I'm pretty sure if @Zachowon just abandoned his post while on deployment he'd face jail time too, and I don't think he'd claim that military service is slavery.
I have not used the term chattel slavery, don't delude people.
However, this is on par with what North Korea does with blue collar labor.

Wow that's sad, you're so utterly predictable you replied to my note that all you do is claim every source that disagrees with you is propaganda... by calling the sources that disagree with your propaganda. Yes, anything that disagrees with you is a shill and propagandist no matter how reliable, anything that agrees with you is obviously perfectly true even if it's coming from a raving lunatic.
You are sad, baffling and pathetic in simping for a commie shithole, while citing .cu propaganda sites and getting caught outright trying to sell me plain bullshit.
You are the shill and propagandist here, and doing the projecting you accused me of.
Given the completely unreliable stuff you cited earlier,
What unreliable stuff? The data site that doesn't include medical slavery profits in pharmaceutical exports? Are you for real?
What Time calls "Cuba's biggest export" with billions of dollars mentioned may be inflating that number quite a bit, don't you think?

this is some incredible levels of double standard. Are you sure you're not a rabid leftie? You both repeatedly quote them as sources and use all their tactics in your debate methods. I'm genuinely getting flashbacks to SB here and their tendency to whine about how any source that isn't deep left and supports their preconceived ideas is fake news and should be banned.

Edit: You know what? I should have some fun with this and your boring predictable tactics.
Fox News singing the praises of Cuba's medical program. Go ahead and claim Fox News is a leftist propaganda shill, I dare you.
Yeah, of course commie shitholes can do stuff cheaply and paper over the downsides, China is the example everyone knows, and of course it was done by Obama administration...
Also seems like Trump may have reversed some sanction lifting it did, dunno if these, but some for sure:
However, i'm not sure if any of these supposedly great imports from Cuba actually got FDA approval to this day...
 
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The US is getting into the money transfer game I don't think Peter sees how this can go wrong or why people would mistrust it.

Yeah the US Federal Reserve is a private company with a monopoly on us dollars.

The Fed has no government oversight, just an annual report to Congress, with no ability to change what the Fed does.

Now what Perer is talking about is giving the Fed monopoly of digital dollars in the marketplace for “free”.
Yeah right! Free until all competition is driven from the market, (like Microsoft did with their OS and Office.

The Fed is exempt from falling under banking regulation, if they become the digital money “clearing house” will they have to comply with normal banking oversight?….. I will guess no.

The US Fed Reserve is complicit in the $21 trillion that is unaccounted for from DoD and Hud over 20 + years.

Unsure if the DoD even attempted to ask the Fed about the $$$$. Most of which was sent from the Fed to DoD accounts then moved to other accounts.

The example often used was the Fed sending $800 mil to a DoD account months after DoD received their entire budget for the year. Then the $800 mil went somewhere. Yep, no one was sure where the money went.

Giving the Fed more monopoly “sounds like a good choice”.<sarc>

The person who found the missing funds was a Professor from Michigan State U, Mark Skidmore, and a bunch of grad students from doing data analytics from open source DoD and HUD data. (Once the MSU people went public all the open-source sites shut down, nothing to see here).

The government misplaced money equal to the USA's GNP over 2 decades. Imagine a company explaining to the IRS, how they misplaced 5% of their gross income every year for 20 years.

The response from the DoD undersecretary for “budget something something or other” when Skidmore brought the information to him was “ If there was a problem people above him would know about it”.

MSU scholars find $21 trillion in unauthorized government spending; Defense Department to conduct first-ever audit
 
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Turns out that having the smallest generation yet of people to work with overall in society hurts recruiting numbers, and the mindsets of most Zoomers/Millennials is not the sort the military brass want out of a recruiting pool.

Also, having a generation that would prefer to work in a closet that locks from the inside because they hate people means it's not going to be realistic to expect them to 'take a hill'.

You can get a generation of drone operators, space force people, electronic warfare operators, and such out of the Zoomers; getting a 'storm the beaches' or even 'invade Iraq' level of ground forces is not happening with the Zoomers.
 
I mean, you still can.
The south generally is where those numbers are recruited from
They just need to change thier recruiting mindset.

Because the Marines arnt having issues
 
Also, having a generation that would prefer to work in a closet that locks from the inside because they hate people means it's not going to be realistic to expect them to 'take a hill'.
To be fair, when your culture tells you that not being performatively extroverted is a problem, while also being an environment where anything you say or do can and will be used against you, locking yourself in a room to avoid the bullshit is a reasonable response.

Also, the track record of US military leaders being fucktards who can't plan for shit doesn't help.
 
To be fair, when your culture tells you that not being performatively extroverted is a problem, while also being an environment where anything you say or do can and will be used against you, locking yourself in a room to avoid the bullshit is a reasonable response.

Also, the track record of US military leaders being fucktards who can't plan for shit doesn't help.

Not to mention willing to toss their soldiers under the bus. Leadership absolutely will not fight for their troops. I've seen that shit happen too many times.
 


Turns out that having the smallest generation yet of people to work with overall in society hurts recruiting numbers, and the mindsets of most Zoomers/Millennials is not the sort the military brass want out of a recruiting pool.

Also, having a generation that would prefer to work in a closet that locks from the inside because they hate people means it's not going to be realistic to expect them to 'take a hill'.

You can get a generation of drone operators, space force people, electronic warfare operators, and such out of the Zoomers; getting a 'storm the beaches' or even 'invade Iraq' level of ground forces is not happening with the Zoomers.


They'll just recruit immigrants with the promise that service = citizenship. Your future army will be stuffed with mexicans, congolese and bengalis and watched over by transgendered diversity officers. They get limitless cannon fodder to throw at whoever and soldiers that will have no problems stuffing deplorables (with whom they have no cultural and historical affinities) into mass graves if it means they get benefits.

problem solved.
 

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