Want to know what actually bothers me about FO3/4 when it comes to lore and consistency?
Oh yeah, Jet's retcons are notorious and a good example on how nobody at Bethesda actually played the original games.
0_o you think most crackheads on the street know what's in their drugs?...Most people have no clue what Jet is, they only know it gives you one hell of a buzz.I personally think for a society to get addicted to huffing mutated cow shit instead of a pre war drug makes less sense to me and I prefer the retcon honestly
Like who the hell is gonna trust a potentially rapist Twink telling you to smoke some radioactive cow shit?
Pre-War Jet sounds safer lmao
No, they played the original games. There's to many consistent lore tidbits thrown through the entire game, heck, FO3 includes references to the Midwest Brotherhood of Steel from Fallout Tactics if you go looking on the Brotherhood's computers in the Pentagon.
Nitpick, Psycho in FO1-2 boosted DR, they basically made Psycho less OP of a drug, it was a lil broken in the classic games. So they transferred DR boosting to the new MedX.
Pretty sure Pre Retcon everyone knew the literal radioactive cow shit was used to make Jet. Which honestly should have killed their customer base faster than they could recruit it
Nope, most people hadn't a clue what was actually in Jet. Which is why it was so effective, only a couple people actually knew how to make it.Pretty sure Pre Retcon everyone knew the literal radioactive cow shit was used to make Jet. Which honestly should have killed their customer base faster than they could recruit it
Bethesda Retcon Jet at least isn't radioactive or potentially full of parasites, it's just a toxic vape.
Remember that Pete Hines actually commented about that once on Twitter? When someone pointed out that Jet shouldn't be in pre-war facilities Pete basically said that internal consistency doesn't matter and that only nerds care about that.
That's not true he mentions "we noticed" when talking about workers getting high off of throwing Brahmin shit in a furnace.
TBF the writer of New Vegas said more or less the same thing when some one questioned the Survival Skill being able to purify water in New Vegas and it making FO3 Purifying process redundant.
There is no need for a retcon, since people are actually that stupid in real life. Have you ever heard of tranq? If not, it the street name of a sedative called xylazine that when mixed with opioids creates a longer high than usual.
Yeah but IRL Humanity can eat the losses of a million people dying a year which is how many die from just drug use alone, a million people dying a year in the wasteland would basically destroy humanity.
I genuinely don't understand what point you're trying to make with this. Obviously a million people are not dying from Jet overdose a year in the wasteland. In every society you will have a subset of the population who are total morons. The total numbers of those people will be higher in places with a higher population. But you will always have a percentage of people dumb enough to inject tranq or snort fumes from Brahmin shit.
There's a market there BECAUSE of Bethesda's retcon, I need not emphasize that huffing radioactive shit with parasites would kill people faster than opioids. Bethesda retconned it into not being a drug that uses radioactive shit.
Again, the Jet comes from the fumes from the dung, not the dung itself. I doubt the fumes themselves can carry parasites. And if Brahmin were radioactive then people wouldn't ranch them. The whole point of keeping Brahmin is for their meat and milk, which would be pointless if it killed you if you ate them.
Yeah the dung that people touch and shovel to burn, parasites CAN travel through fumes to not all of them but they can
Brahmin meat IS radioactive. It's only Bethesda lore where Brahmin milk has properties to cleanse radiation, by the canon YOU guys want Brahmins are radioactive and NCR people irradiated themselves every time they eat.
Source? The Mojave shows multiple examples of the NCR troopers falling to drugs like Psycho whose to say they don't also use Jet?
That's the point Brahmin shit Jet would have never taken off realistically, that's why Bethesda retconning it into a prewar drug is good
You mean the less harmful Pre-War drug Jet not the Brahmin shit Jet.
In a post apocalypse society no one would use radioactive Brahmin shit they'd look for other drugs, Brahmin shit was just a stupid edge lord concept that I'm glad Bethesda retconned early all into FO3.