Nord Stream 1 and 2 Attacked

PsihoKekec

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What fucking cheap energy? Have you seen the electricity prices in Germany?

Which doesn't have much to do with imports from Russia, as nlg (which was kept at relatively low prices) is only a small fraction of electricity production, as nlg powerplants are used for dealing with fluctuations in the system. Nlg is used in heating and in industry and it's cuts in industry use that will mess up European economy the most.


Why should we be loyal to a block that isn't loyal to us?

Then why are you even members?
 

Cherico

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Which doesn't have much to do with imports from Russia, as nlg (which was kept at relatively low prices) is only a small fraction of electricity production, as nlg powerplants are used for dealing with fluctuations in the system. Nlg is used in heating and in industry and it's cuts in industry use that will mess up European economy the most.




Then why are you even members?


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this is a map of europe before world war one.

You will notice all of those countries that do not exist during this time period thats because at this point in time they are directly occupied by russia and during this period russia was trying to destroy thier culture through russification.

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This is a map of europe during the cold war. The countries in red? Their the relatively lucky ones they are puppet states that are occupied by russia. Things during this time were pretty fucking horrible I mean this is a system that murdered over a hundred million people so yeah....thats fun and if your in the soviet union it was worse. Because your under direct control.

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this is europe today.

The regions your complaining about? They got to enjoy being brutalized by russians for centuries in a few cases the russians commited actual genocide against them. Then they got to enjoy having the communists make their life even more hellish because the Russians decided to create a new man.

For countries like Poland this is a transactual deal. The Germans fuck them and their economy with over regulation of god damned everything. (The germans purposefully make sure that regulations fuck less advanced economies.) But in return for relative poverity and german enrichment they get protection from Russia.

Everything they tolerate is for the one singular goal of never being under the Russian boot heel ever again.

In their mind its like.

If were not getting the one thing we ask for then fuck you, which considering how western europe has abused this region of europe in favor of stupid woke shit is a reasonable atitude to have.
 

Agent23

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Lol, don't pop a vein.
As I said, broken whataboutist record.

Yes, an invasion that's killed tens of thousands is just 'reee Russia bad.'

What would it take to convince you that Russia was actually doing something bad?
Ree, Russia Man baad...
Yeah, sure, you ain't provin anything brainiac, if anything you are just spamming more whataboutism and off-topic gibberish.
 

ATP

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Great, more whataboutism and ree Russia bad. :ROFLMAO:
Not possible.Soviets killed Russia,so it could be neither bad or good.Bad news for average bulgarian like you,who need Mother Russia,but - sorry,she is gone.

Back to topic - postsoviets started war to genocide Ukraine,and would genocide rest if they win.And,they have tradition of blowing up their own stuff/those 311 killed in 1999/ ,or blowing by accident/Kursk/
So,they could do that.

USA - if ANY OTHER PRESIDENT say that he blown up NS2,i would take it seriously.Biden? sorry,no.
Who would do that? his lgbt army?
so, o highly doubt it.
All Biden coud is sending old stuff to Ukraine and faking elections.
 

Marduk

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As I said, broken whataboutist record.
As i said, mindbroken by propaganda.
Which doesn't have much to do with imports from Russia, as nlg (which was kept at relatively low prices) is only a small fraction of electricity production, as nlg powerplants are used for dealing with fluctuations in the system. Nlg is used in heating and in industry and it's cuts in industry use that will mess up European economy the most.
If gas power plants make power so cheaply thanks to their notably cheap fuel, why are they used so little?
Industry use is also just a third of the use.
How is it that Japan doesn't have pipeline gas, has to get it by ship, doesn't have special superfriend deals with Russia, uses even more of it for power, and still, by some miracle they have slightly cheaper energy?
Ok, maybe you're gonna say they at least have cheap gas for heating...
But it's also not true, theirs are merely average, slightly higher from those such Russia haters as Poland and Estonia get.
Before 2014 funnies:
After, more recently:
Not much change either. Still slightly more than Russia haters like Poland and Latvia, and they add up onto that with high taxes.
Ok, industrial prices perhaps?
Ok, we see a tiny bit lower pre-tax price than everyone, we're talking 5-10% or so...
But then they add on enough taxes to get them into the average anyway.
Where's this cheap energy to justify being worth coddling Russia for it?
So we see now, Russian gas giving cheap energy that is a big advantage German industry can't compete without is a myth. There is no cheap energy, only corruption.
Then why are you even members?
For the same reason everyone is. There is no loyalty, only money and power. Everyone is there for one or both.
 

Tyzuris

Primarch to your glory& the glory of him on Earth!
This is a surprise to be sure, but a welcome one. One less European dependency on Russia cut out, and less leverage for Vladolf Putler in Europe. This took out his energy blackmail tool to use to influence countries like Germany, etc...
 

Agent23

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Ree, witness my whataboutism, ree...
No, thanks.
You have proven time and time again to be a thin-skinned, spiteful and autistic, and that you are willing to dump the first thing on google that fits your narrative.
Happened with the weed thread, happened in the Ukraine threads, I do not play stupid games, find someone else that will tolerate listening to your broken record.

Anyway, back to the actual topic at Hans, namely the Nordstream situation, here is another great take from that noted pinko commie and Putler apologist Tucker Carlson:

 
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Marduk

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No, thanks.
You have proven time and time again to be a thin-skinned, spiteful and autistic, and that you are willing to sump the first thing on goole that fits your narrative.
Projection is not a valid defense to inability to substantiate your favorite propaganda with numbers.
Happened with the weed thread, happened in the Ukraine threads, I do not play stupid games, find someone else that will tolerate listening to your broken record.
Better than your broken record lol.
Anyway, back to the actual topic at Hans, namely the Nordstream situation, here is another great take from that noted pinko commie and Putler apologist Tucker Carlson:


and that you are willing to sump the first thing on goole that fits your narrative.
🤣🤣🤣
 

Agent23

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REEEE!!!!
Only thing I will give you is that I, like a particular genius wearing a toilet/shoe cleaner on his head, do use a mobile device to shitpost, and occasionally that leads to a misspelling or two.
Well, for me, for him it is the occasional proper spelling that is surprising. :D

Ok, apologies done, you may resume your whataboutist reeing, and I shall continue to ROFL!
 

ATP

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Only thing I will give you is that I, like a particular genius wearing a toilet/shoe cleaner on his head, do use a mobile device to shitpost, and occasionally that leads to a misspelling or two.
Well, for me, for him it is the occasional proper spelling that is surprising. :D

Ok, apologies done, you may resume your whataboutist reeing, and I shall continue to ROFL!

Could you explain then,why somebody as incopetent as Biden manage to destroy NS1 and NS2 ?
I knew that they are corrupted degenerates,but you need somebody competent for action like that.
Not mention,that if it was USA made,somebody would arleady spill it.
Sorry,but their secret services are joke infiltrated by kgb,mossad and probably Vanuatu.
 

Cherico

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Could you explain then,why somebody as incopetent as Biden manage to destroy NS1 and NS2 ?
I knew that they are corrupted degenerates,but you need somebody competent for action like that.
Not mention,that if it was USA made,somebody would arleady spill it.
Sorry,but their secret services are joke infiltrated by kgb,mossad and probably Vanuatu.
There is always the possibility Poland did it.
 

Agent23

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Could you explain then,why somebody as incopetent as Biden manage to destroy NS1 and NS2 ?
I knew that they are corrupted degenerates,but you need somebody competent for action like that.
Not mention,that if it was USA made,somebody would arleady spill it.
Sorry,but their secret services are joke infiltrated by kgb,mossad and probably Vanuatu.
Biden is incompetent, a lot of his party and the deep state around and behind him is incompetent, but the US navy and some parts of the US intelligence apparatus, partucularly the ones dealing with electronic intelligence and other tech related espionage stuff are still competent IMHO.

Nero becoming emperor didn't render the Roman Legions incompetent overnight.
 

Marduk

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It's worth reminding people that if Russia was innocent on this matter, they wouldn't be pushing more gas into the pipeline.
There is an alternative theory though.
What else is Russia going to do with the gas?
Could be trolling for free and making the investigation more complicated for the hell of it.
It's not like they can shut down the gas production, and they don't have the infrastructure to send the gas elsewhere.
 

Agent23

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It's worth reminding people that if Russia was innocent on this matter, they wouldn't be pushing more gas into the pipeline.
Sure, sure, take your lumps and admit you forgot or just went on an angryposting mini-spree.
There is an alternative theory though.
What else is Russia going to do with the gas?
Could be trolling for free and making the investigation more complicated for the hell of it.
It's not like they can shut down the gas production, and they don't have the infrastructure to send the gas elsewhere.
Or maybe you know they don't want to have a drop in pressure in the pipes since they were built to operate under certain tolerances, or they are trying to limit water damage by sustaining the pressure...
But then again, we are dealing with the Google and Twitter-powered experts in everything on here, so do enlighten us about your partisan, biased and non-competence based theories...
 

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