My Thing on Transgenderism hate me if you want.

[LordsFire]

Sooner we admit that we are slaves to our biological instincts, the sooner we stop trying to pretend to be higher than thou and start tempering it with reason....as best as we can followed up by making everybody a brain-in-a-jar

We aren't slaves to our biological instincts. We certainly cannot over-rule them without concerted effort and willpower though.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

We aren't slaves to our biological instincts. We certainly cannot over-rule them without concerted effort and willpower though.

We can only do so much before we disappoint both ourselves and others

 

[Lanmandragon]

The reality of course is that difficulty in life is dependent much more upon intelligence and attractiveness.

Nope you have to equalize social power/influence. If you do so it will become apparent that even at elite levels. Elite women are extended far more leeway then thier male counterpart's. Compare like with like

 

[King Krávoka]

We can only do so much before we disappoint both ourselves and others

Your human rights are revoked until you've successfully used the pain box at your doorstep. We apologize for the inconvenience.

Nope you have to equalize social power/influence. If you do so it will become apparent that even at elite levels. Elite women are extended far more leeway then thier male counterpart's. Compare like with like

Only because our society is dominated by heterosexual men who because of this prize women. If society were more equal, individually powerful women would be much less powerful. Even in our current state the power of women is capped to just below the men who enable them, so they're still not truly empowered.

 

[ParadiseLost]

Human Biology, something that’s the root of many problems

Not that most people really like admitting that even a stone to bronze age civilization would have problems in terms of people being greedy, cowardly, lustful, jealous, murderous, fanatical and so on

Sooner we admit that we are slaves to our biological instincts, the sooner we stop trying to pretend to be higher than thou and start tempering it with reason....as best as we can followed up by making everybody a brain-in-a-jar

I don't want to be a brain in a jar. I want to be a cyborg, preferably a cyborg with vampiresque technological features.

(GO GO CYBERPUNK 2077!)


I think we should get back on topic and actually start talking about transgender people again, though.

 

[Lanmandragon]

Your human rights are revoked until you've successfully used the pain box at your doorstep. We apologize for the inconvenience.

Only because our society is dominated by heterosexual men who because of this prize women. If society were more equal, individually powerful women would be much less powerful. Even in our current state the power of women is capped to just below the men who enable them, so they're still not truly empowered.

"How dare men try and get pussy" fuck yourself bro. Don't do your trolling shit on me.

 

[ParadiseLost]

"How dare men try and get pussy" fuck yourself bro. Don't do your trolling shit on me.

This is a hot take from someone who missed reading comprehension class.

 

[King Krávoka]

"How dare men try and get pussy" fuck yourself bro. Don't do your trolling shit on me.

I said nothing misandrist or heterophobic but the acknowledgement of a statisti-
Wait
huh
Interesting, I can Despitepost about afromericans but not men.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

Even in our current state the power of women is capped to just below the men who enable them, so they're still not truly empowered.

I’m guessing this applies to Transgenders of Transtrenders, they only have so much influence, not because they have lots of cash and financial worth

But because dudes prop them up so highly and even give their own cash to show how important they and other “minorities” are rather than them just proving/showing their own strengths en masse

 

[ParadiseLost]

"How dare men try and get pussy" fuck yourself bro. Don't do your trolling shit on me.

To be more clear: his point is that woman aren't given more leeway because they are women and people think women are better than men, women are given leeway because the men above them want to fuck them and thus favor them. Despite the fact that its clearly not a workplace or business appropriate attitude.

 

[Lanmandragon]

This is a hot take from someone who missed reading comprehension class.

Sure why not believe as you will no sweat off my back.

I said nothing misandrist or heterophobic but the acknowledgement of a statisti-
Wait
huh
Interesting, I can Despitepost about afromericans but not men.

Uh huh that's nice sweetie

 

[CarlManvers2019]

To be more clear: his point is that woman aren't given more leeway because they are women and people think women are better than men, women are given leeway because the men above them want to fuck them and thus favor them. Despite the fact that its clearly not a workplace or business appropriate attitude.

They also do it for people who so happen to be “minorities” if only to get brownie points from some idiots

They deep down don’t believe in things like “a man can be a woman” and just got really convinced by idiots that embracing em and doing nepotism with them will produce high results....also they can force them onto less successful companies

 

[ParadiseLost]

I’m guessing this applies to Transgenders of Transtrenders, they only have so much influence, not because they have lots of cash and financial worth

But because dudes prop them up so highly and even give their own cash to show how important they and other “minorities” are rather than them just proving/showing their own strengths en masse

What reality do you live in that transgender people are given anything but lip service?

Because it sure as hell isn't this one.

Transgender people face higher rates of poverty, suicide, unemployment, etc. Most people care about them in the "LOOK AT HOW PROGRESSIVE I AM" sense but not in the real do-actual-things-to-help-trans-people sense.

 

[Lanmandragon]

To be more clear: his point is that woman aren't given more leeway because they are women and people think women are better than men, women are given leeway because the men above them want to fuck them and thus favor them. Despite the fact that its clearly not a workplace or business appropriate attitude.

I honestly didn't even read your response. I'm just sick of King trolling which is all he does. Anyway what's your argument?

 

[ParadiseLost]

I honestly didn't even read your response. I'm just sick of King trolling which is all he does. Anyway what's your argument?

I literally posted it already. You just quoted it in your post.

I also think its less that he's trolling and more that he just doesn't take you seriously.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

What reality do you live in that transgender people are given anything but lip service?

Because it sure as hell isn't this one.

Transgender people face higher rates of poverty, suicide, unemployment, etc. Most people care about them in the "LOOK AT HOW PROGRESSIVE I AM" sense but not in the real do-actual-things-to-help-trans-people sense.

Okay, admittedly I was sort of meaning the more "LOOK AT HOW PROGRESSIVE I AM" ones

I don't think the media likes talking about the issues like the suicide and depression that comes with body dysphoria or the surgeries

 

[Lanmandragon]

I literally posted it already. You just quoted it in your post.

I also think its less that he's trolling and more that he just doesn't take you seriously.

Ahh so dudes give broads a pussy pass then? Sure I'd agree with that will the caveat that leadership is a male domain. Therefore what any woman does is largely irrelevant. As any and all "power" she commands flows directly from men. Truth is violence is the ultimate and only real authority. "I can kick your ass" wins every single time.

 

[King Krávoka]

I’m guessing this applies to Transgenders of Transtrenders, they only have so much influence, not because they have lots of cash and financial worth

But because dudes prop them up so highly and even give their own cash to show how important they and other “minorities” are rather than them just proving/showing their own strengths en masse

Yes, a big factor I believe behind rapid onset gender dysphoria is that the internet, also being full of heterosexual men, has women as the "gameplay favored gender".

I don't think the media likes talking about the issues like the suicide and depression that comes with body dysphoria or the surgeries

In frankness they don't really like talking about transpeople in general (but I admittedly live in a hole so this could be very wrong) for obvious optical purposes. Their exposure is mostly through the internet and theoretically grassroots campaigns where cameras aren't madatory. The media cares only for the L and female end of B.

 

[ParadiseLost]

Ahh so dudes give broads a pussy pass then? Sure I'd agree with that will the caveat that leadership is a male domain. Therefore what any woman does is largely irrelevant.

Which you're allowed to say because the female owner of the server lets you say it. Irony.

Truth is violence is the ultimate and only real authority. "I can kick your ass" wins every single time.

Violence is a poor long term solution to problems, because if you keep relying on it someday you might lose. There's usually a much better solution, especially in the long run.

Yes, violence is ultimately the main authority, but we have police to kill psychos who go off the reservation and start resorting to violence too much for a reason.

Also, guns are better than muscles; any competently trained woman with a gun or a mace or even a knife has a chance against a meathead.

 

[Lanmandragon]

Which you're allowed to say because the female owner of the server lets you say it. Irony.



Violence is a poor long term solution to problems, because if you keep relying on it someday you might lose. There's usually a much better solution, especially in the long run.

Yes, violence is ultimately the main authority, but we have police to kill psychos who go off the reservation and start resorting to violence too much for a reason.

Also, guns are better than muscles; any competently trained woman with a gun or a mace or even a knife has a chance against a meathead.

Physicality is largely irrelevant will is what matters. Historcally men have such while women don't it's that simple. Believe as you will but the reality is any and all power flows from men. Feminism is a failure to control women and 75%+ of issues start there. As for a "woman* allowing me all respect to zoe but if your been male your male. It's that simple anyway I've said my peice have a good night bro. Gie bless America