Musk actually buys Twitter.

Marduk

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I'm not sure why an American company CEO has to answer to a foreign government about why he permits Constitutionally protected Free Speech and Freedom to have political opinions on an American social media platform.

If he wants to do business in Israel, like trade in ads, tech and data, he has to.
 

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I'm not sure why an American company CEO has to answer to a foreign government about why he permits Constitutionally protected Free Speech and Freedom to have political opinions on an American social media platform.

I'd assume that the Israeli govt is quite free to block access to X for it's own citizens, if there's content on there that will hurt their feelings.

But no country should be allowed to impose censorship on the rest of the world. Because then next thing Communist China will be demanding that no internet forum anywhere be allowed to have content critical of their regime, there are already Islamic groups wanting to ban all mention or discussion of the Holocaust, etc etc.

Otherwise things might end up with no internationally-accessible internet forums or social media platforms at all. Each country would have its own, which was inaccessible to anyone from outside of its borders.
Every people in their own little bubble.
 

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I'd assume that the Israeli govt is quite free to block access to X for it's own citizens, if there's content on there that will hurt their feelings.
I think Israel is less concerned about feeling of own citizens, and more about the propagandizing of global audiences which can have foreign policy consequences.
But no country should be allowed to impose censorship on the rest of the world. Because then next thing Communist China will be demanding that no internet forum anywhere be allowed to have content critical of their regime, there are already Islamic groups wanting to ban all mention or discussion of the Holocaust, etc etc.
Did you sleep through the last 2 decades of China's internet policy? China can't potentially start demanding such things in the future, because it in fact is demanding that since ages, and since many didn't follow, it just made a national scale firewall that blocks everyone who doesn't play ball.
Many of the greedier companies have to make a gutted version of their service for China, like Google.
 

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I'm not sure why an American company CEO has to answer to a foreign government about why he permits Constitutionally protected Free Speech and Freedom to have political opinions on an American social media platform.
I believe you've read this wrong. First, Herzog barely has any power, as a president in a parliamentary country. He has less hard power than ministers.

Instead, Elon knows he's being wrongly attacked for antisemetism, and wants to attack the ADL. To do this, he needs some shielding, and meeting with the president of Israel is one more thing he'll point to when called antisemetic.

Basically, this is Elon trying to expand his power, not him bowing to another country.
 

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Did you sleep through the last 2 decades of China's internet policy? China can't potentially start demanding such things in the future, because it in fact is demanding that since ages, and since many didn't follow, it just made a national scale firewall that blocks everyone who doesn't play ball.
Many of the greedier companies have to make a gutted version of their service for China, like Google.

And the Chinese regime having to do its own censoring, rather than the rest of the world doing it for them, is the better outcome there.
 

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And the Chinese regime having to do its own censoring, rather than the rest of the world doing it for them, is the better outcome there.
And that companies likeable bow down to china because of the market share they get pit of it shows how well bing forieng to China means
 

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I'm not sure why an American company CEO has to answer to a foreign government about why he permits Constitutionally protected Free Speech and Freedom to have political opinions on an American social media platform.

"Help, China is trying to crush our freedom of speech on my website!"
Normal people: Those dastardly eastern dictators! They should know better than to interfere with our way of life!
"Help, North Korea is trying to crush our freedom of speech on my website!"
Normal people: That 'divine' leader better watch himself, that freedom is what makes us so strong!
"Help, Islamists are trying to crush our freedom of speech on my website!"
Normal people: Their insane religion has no place in our nations, something has to be done
"Help, jews are trying to crush our freedom of speech on my website!"
Normal people: W-well uhmm, haha, oooh...
 
"Help, China is trying to crush our freedom of speech on my website!"
Normal people: Those dastardly eastern dictators! They should know better than to interfere with our way of life!
"Help, North Korea is trying to crush our freedom of speech on my website!"
Normal people: That 'divine' leader better watch himself, that freedom is what makes us so strong!
"Help, Islamists are trying to crush our freedom of speech on my website!"
Normal people: Their insane religion has no place in our nations, something has to be done
"Help, jews are trying to crush our freedom of speech on my website!"
Normal people: W-well uhmm, haha, oooh...
I think it's a bad move. I frankly don't get what sort of value Twitter actually has ar this point.
 

AmosTrask

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I think it's a bad move. I frankly don't get what sort of value Twitter actually has ar this point.
19 billion USD from near on 43 billion when Musk did his bullshit. The gods damned CCP schill accounts have exploded since Musk got rid of the Government Afgiliation labels and gave everyone a verified account. His masters in Beijing must be very happy. The hundreds of thousands of 50 Cent Army accounts have been able to flood any real news down with their fake shit. Making it near impossible to sift real posts from communist propaganda
 
My issue with antisemitism isn't that I think a nation or culture (scratch that culture) isn't beyond criticism (every culture and nation has it's bad stereotypes and those that fit them.) But something about antisemitism in particular seems to lead people into an abyss of madness from the white Aryan race to flat earth to reptilians. like it doesn't seem to matter whether you dip your toe into the waters of antisemitism or take a full plunge eventually you drown in the depths of madness so it's hard not to raise an eyebrow when people start talking about "dem Jews" in that way.
 
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19 billion USD from near on 43 billion when Musk did his bullshit. The gods damned CCP schill accounts have exploded since Musk got rid of the Government Afgiliation labels and gave everyone a verified account. His masters in Beijing must be very happy. The hundreds of thousands of 50 Cent Army accounts have been able to flood any real news down with their fake shit. Making it near impossible to sift real posts from communist propaganda
If you believe every conspiracy theory that comes your way, you become just as dumb as those believing none of them. It's a classic horseshoe theory of how gullible someone is.
 

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My issue with antisemitism isn't that I think a nation or race isn't beyond criticism (every race and nation has it's bad stereotypes and those that fit them.) But something about antisemitism in particular seems to lead people into an abyss of madness from the white Aryan race to flat earth to reptilians. like it doesn't seem matter whether you dip your toe into the waters of antisemitism or take a full plunge eventually you drown in the depths of madness so it's hard not to raise an eyebrow when people start talking about "dem Jews" in that way.
Ok that's new to me...what is jump or pipeline that theoritically one leads to another ? Because I think this is mostly an American thing and the most fringe of all.
 

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What I'm saying is he should never have bought Twitter in the first place.
Why not? It was a worthless cesspool of bots and leftists that no intelligent person considered as a viable platform for speech.
He 'slightly' improved things, nowhere near enough but as if anybody could fix that mess.
REALLY he should've just shut the entire operation down, and burn the server farms into slag. But of course he wasn't going to do that.
 

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