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Tell me, didn't Syria's civil war start with protesters being fired on en-masse?
Asia-Pacific Military Coup in Myanmar
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Tell me, didn't Syria's civil war start with protesters being fired on en-masse?
Arch Dornan
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Welp. Is it time for the notIranian revolution?It's begun.
At least 39 reported killed in Myanmar as Chinese factories burn
Security forces killed at least 22 anti-coup protesters in the poor, industrial Hlaingthaya suburb of Myanmar's main city on Sunday after Chinese-financed factories were set ablaze there, an advocacy group said.www.reuters.com
Val the Moofia Boss
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So it's looking like annexation by the Chinese will happen soon? And an eventual slow and quiet genocide like what is happening with the Tibetans and Mongolians?
Arlos
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I don’t think they’ll invade and annex Bhurma properly, most likely they’ll do what russia did with Syria and Assad, just on a larger scale.
Yinko
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I used to live in Myanmar, for a time. It's hard to say what it's like now, since it changes so fast there. However, from what I saw in Cambodia, the feelings towards the Chinese among the public are going to be pretty bad. This is important for a few reasons.
A lot of minority groups that were close to the border during the original junta years jumped the border into China and then brought that cash back with them to invest it into Myanmar once it reopened. However, the opinions of these returnees was always pretty arrogant, but nowhere near as bad as that of the Chinese themselves. The fact that these groups are not Bamar already means that their influence is suspect. That the Chinese investors have utterly ruined the real estate market to the point that people in Yangon cannot rent a crappy little death-trap of an apartment without making it look like a clowncar, that's what really pisses them off.
Also, the biggest new cultural influence is, by far, India and Korea, followed by Japan. Especially since North Korea has long been a trade partner with Myanmar, which means that South Korea already had a point of reference. That just shows that China hasn't been able to sink its claws into the public consciousness too far.
The hatred for the Chinese is relevant because of how SE Asian leaders historically deal with public support. That is: identify a group hated by the public and kill them. This was the Rohingya strategy, they were hated for centuries prior to this, and once they were driven out school children volunteered to go and help harvest their crops and redistribute their lands out of sheer gratitude for eliminating them. The government gained a huge amount of support for getting rid of them, very democratic by those standards.
Similarly, Indonesia has had at least one major genocide against the Chinese, and probably a few smaller ones, for exactly the same reasons. The Chinese on the mainland never care because they view ethnic Chinese in other countries as not really Chinese any more, which is something that really pisses off the ethnic Chinese in those countries.
Animosity against the Chinese in SE Asia has been increasing in alignment with their interactions with them. At a guess, I would say that part of the reasoning for the coup was that the Tatmadaw is trying to fix some of the problems caused by opening up the economy, one of which has been foreign influence.
It would be difficult for China to actually do anything about it if their assets were to be destroyed, since ASEAN is essentially an Anti-China political bloc, which contained three heavily militarized countries and the economic backing of the west. What do all ASEAN countries have in common? Fear of China. If China moves to annex one, the rest are going to react. The way that China has been trying to get around this has been through bribery of officials, but that only goes so far and doesn't usually work on the upper level members of the administration who are either already in the pocket of another country (Cambodia and Loas are Vietnamese puppet states) or not dumb enough to be bought by a foreign power (Thailand, Indonesia).
It's always possible that the Chinese could pull something off, but I don't think they're competent enough, especially if it came to actual conflict.
A lot of minority groups that were close to the border during the original junta years jumped the border into China and then brought that cash back with them to invest it into Myanmar once it reopened. However, the opinions of these returnees was always pretty arrogant, but nowhere near as bad as that of the Chinese themselves. The fact that these groups are not Bamar already means that their influence is suspect. That the Chinese investors have utterly ruined the real estate market to the point that people in Yangon cannot rent a crappy little death-trap of an apartment without making it look like a clowncar, that's what really pisses them off.
Also, the biggest new cultural influence is, by far, India and Korea, followed by Japan. Especially since North Korea has long been a trade partner with Myanmar, which means that South Korea already had a point of reference. That just shows that China hasn't been able to sink its claws into the public consciousness too far.
The hatred for the Chinese is relevant because of how SE Asian leaders historically deal with public support. That is: identify a group hated by the public and kill them. This was the Rohingya strategy, they were hated for centuries prior to this, and once they were driven out school children volunteered to go and help harvest their crops and redistribute their lands out of sheer gratitude for eliminating them. The government gained a huge amount of support for getting rid of them, very democratic by those standards.
Similarly, Indonesia has had at least one major genocide against the Chinese, and probably a few smaller ones, for exactly the same reasons. The Chinese on the mainland never care because they view ethnic Chinese in other countries as not really Chinese any more, which is something that really pisses off the ethnic Chinese in those countries.
Animosity against the Chinese in SE Asia has been increasing in alignment with their interactions with them. At a guess, I would say that part of the reasoning for the coup was that the Tatmadaw is trying to fix some of the problems caused by opening up the economy, one of which has been foreign influence.
It would be difficult for China to actually do anything about it if their assets were to be destroyed, since ASEAN is essentially an Anti-China political bloc, which contained three heavily militarized countries and the economic backing of the west. What do all ASEAN countries have in common? Fear of China. If China moves to annex one, the rest are going to react. The way that China has been trying to get around this has been through bribery of officials, but that only goes so far and doesn't usually work on the upper level members of the administration who are either already in the pocket of another country (Cambodia and Loas are Vietnamese puppet states) or not dumb enough to be bought by a foreign power (Thailand, Indonesia).
It's always possible that the Chinese could pull something off, but I don't think they're competent enough, especially if it came to actual conflict.
Arch Dornan
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They're like Asia's Germany but even worse off militarily?
Yinko
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And a worse expansionism plan. Germany's foreign policy is based on Prussian political thinking, slow and steady, China is trying to do it all in a single generation, and with even less tact.
Arch Dornan
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No comment.
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Myanmar Military Seizes George Soros Organization's Bank Accounts, Announces Arrest Warrants After Coup
The Soros-owned foundation's assets were seized and arrest warrants were filed for 11 of its employees.
nationalfile.com
That's one of the rare moments where I'm happy and angry at the same time.^^Myanmar Military Seizes George Soros Organization's Bank Accounts, Announces Arrest Warrants After Coup
The Soros-owned foundation's assets were seized and arrest warrants were filed for 11 of its employees.
Arch Dornan
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George Soros again.Myanmar Military Seizes George Soros Organization's Bank Accounts, Announces Arrest Warrants After Coup
The Soros-owned foundation's assets were seized and arrest warrants were filed for 11 of its employees.
Arch Dornan
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Shits fucked.
King Arts
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There is no such thing as overboard when dealing with communists and people who sympathize with them. Remember communists aren’t human they don’t deserve any rights not even a priest before execution to save their souls from hell.
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When only the government is doing the shooting it's just protests being wrecked. When both sides are doing the shooting...
www.aljazeera.com
Too bad liveleak is a shell of it's former self so I won't be able to go there to check out the latest "myanmar civil war gruesome deaths compilation" vids that are sure to come at this point.
Eleven killed as Myanmar protesters ‘fight soldiers with rifles’
Local media say residents of northwest town used guns, knives, firebombs as security forces attempted to quell protests.
Too bad liveleak is a shell of it's former self so I won't be able to go there to check out the latest "myanmar civil war gruesome deaths compilation" vids that are sure to come at this point.
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Myanmar heading towards a ‘full-blown conflict’, UN human rights chief warns
The ongoing repression of protests in Myanmar could spark a “full-blown conflict” on a par with Syria, the United Nations’ top human rights official warned on Tuesday, urging States with influence to take immediate and impactful action to halt the “slaughter” of civilians.
See, the UN agrees with me.
To celebrate the Buddhist New Year in Myanmar as per tradition, the Junta will be releasing thousands of prisoners from its prisons and jails and granting them amnesty! Over twenty three thousand prisoners will be released.
www.aljazeera.com
Of course, apparently few of them will be political dissidents but oh well. Also the Junta will be attending the next ASEAN Summit, their first since seizing power eleven weeks ago.
Over three thousand political dissidents are still imprisoned by the Junta and over 700 killed since the February Coup.
Myanmar frees thousands of prisoners but many dissidents excluded
More than 23,184 prisoners from jails across the country to be released but many were jailed before the February coup.
Of course, apparently few of them will be political dissidents but oh well. Also the Junta will be attending the next ASEAN Summit, their first since seizing power eleven weeks ago.
Over three thousand political dissidents are still imprisoned by the Junta and over 700 killed since the February Coup.
Protestors who are mostly students are being trained by various armed ethnic Rebel groups in use of firearms, explosives and other fieldcraft.