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Zachowon

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Or, they justbwant to fight for the freedom of Ukraine.
Ukraine can say no to anyone who wants to fight.
The thing is, iirc that is the Chechens fighting for Ukraone that has that.
So they are Islamic and it is possible perhaps support ISIS or was former ISIS.

Some of the best video footage we have of battle is from a guy who fought with the Kurds.
 

Bacle

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Well, that's not great; sounds like it's make or break time for keeping Iran from being able to build a bomb.
 

Knowledgeispower

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Honestly Iran really shouldn't have ever been working on the bomb or really for that matter funding terrorism across the middle east. Like seriously had those moronic idiots running the place spent that cash on oh I don't know making it so their economy isn't utterly dependent on oil sales to not go under and beefing up their own conventional armed forces they'd be the dominant regional power. And honestly if they didn't keep doing this dumb shit by now I suspect the US would have probably been willing to restart a relationship with Iran. Instead they get all the sanctions and have pissed off all their neighbors and it they ever test a nuke the sanctions they have on them now will seem a pleasant memory.
 

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Honestly Iran really shouldn't have ever been working on the bomb or really for that matter funding terrorism across the middle east. Like seriously had those moronic idiots running the place spent that cash on oh I don't know making it so their economy isn't utterly dependent on oil sales to not go under and beefing up their own conventional armed forces they'd be the dominant regional power. And honestly if they didn't keep doing this dumb shit by now I suspect the US would have probably been willing to restart a relationship with Iran. Instead they get all the sanctions and have pissed off all their neighbors and it they ever test a nuke the sanctions they have on them now will seem a pleasant memory.
That raises a great topic - resource curse and its consequences in a long and curvy way creating the alliance of Iran and Russia. Through very different roads, they ended up in the same camp, led by the same incentives.

Take a country that has some industry and technology but it's not good enough at it to go commercial worldwide, add huge oil revenue for the government, add lack of democratic tradition, and an imperial history...

You get a government that has little interest in advancing its mediocre industry into something competitive on the world scale, after all success is hard and not assured, they can buy almost anything they want for oil money, in that case why even care about having a happy and prosperous population of high skilled workers, not many jobs for them anyway, and if the smart ones leave, who cares, less whiny complainers who think they can run the government better and less competition for oil revenue in government, just care about the local fanatical potential muscle dreaming of return to empire and regime honchos that need to be kept happy instead.

So in the end the country drifts towards an economy focused on resources and making military related stuff that's under sanctions or soon will be, the rest can be bought, and not many people even need to have it bought for because most are not important, like serfs, their opinions don't matter, at worst some will fuck off for greener pastures, but they have plenty to spare. With a system like that, it's left for the local fanatics, wannabe glorious leaders and other assholes to use the population of serfs and black gold funded war chest to fight themselves out a place in the history books, attempts at which keep the successfully propagandized parts of the population as loyal praetorians.

The moronic idiots in charge currently are stuck riding the train of Shia fanaticism and "islamic revolution" until its end, whatever it may be, whether they like it or not, for that is where their relevancy ends, that is synonymous with their whole claim to power and appeal to their power base. Without that whole myth and pursuing it (which includes exporting the revolution), they may as well go back to pre-revolution foreign policy, being allies with USA and Israel even, which makes their whole revolution that got them where they are utterly pointless, and of course declaring their whole political program a pointless mistake is the last thing they will ever do.
 
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IMO Israel should be told to fuck off.
None of its business.
Also hypocritical AF. Israel has a history of terrorist attacks all over the ME going back for longer than the Islamic Republic exists.
 

TheRejectionist

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IMO Israel should be told to fuck off.
None of its business.
Also hypocritical AF. Israel has a history of terrorist attacks all over the ME going back for longer than the Islamic Republic exists.
Not to mention the current partnership with Azerbaijan.

But frankly, I would not ever allow any nations warships in territorial waters.
 

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Not to mention the current partnership with Azerbaijan.

But frankly, I would not ever allow any nations warships in territorial waters.
Realistically, you do that with more or less allied countries, everyone does.
It's more about Lula's ideological bent than Brazil's interests - looking at the map and at trade relations, relations with Iran are an afterthought compared to even the smallest risk of pissing off the US of A.
But Lula is a leftist and wants to reinforce his "America bad" cred.
And then there are the shady dealings with Hezbollah.
Considering that these ships are sanctioned by name by US government, in connection with the above probably, the US complaints should also be mentioned, as they can turn out far more consequential than Israeli ones.

Haiat's comments followed others the day before by U.S. State Department spokesperson Ned Price. In response to a reporter's question about the ships reaching Brazil, Price said that Washington is discussing the issue with Brazilian partners and that it wants to ensure Iran "is not able to acquire a foothold, is not able to take advantage of others in our hemisphere."
 
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TheRejectionist

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Realistically, you do that with more or less allied countries, everyone does.
It's more about Lula's ideological bent than Brazil's interests - looking at the map and at trade relations, relations with Iran are an afterthought compared to even the smallest risk of pissing off the US of A.
But Lula is a leftist and wants to reinforce his "America bad" cred.
And then there are the shady dealings with Hezbollah.
Considering that these ships are sanctioned by name by US government, in connection with the above probably, the US complaints should also be mentioned, as they can turn out far more consequential than Israeli ones.

I did know Hezbollah trafficked narcotics in my country.

Personally I wouldn't want any warship at all, friend or foe or neutral.

Weirdly enough you would imagine this would be big news on Youtube or mainstream media.
 

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Well, seem even more people dislike Russia now, and Armenia has been more friendly to Russia than most due to animosity with the Turks and Azeri's.
 

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Saudi Arabia and Iran have re-established diplomatic times after negotiating in a summit held in the Peoples Republic of China.

The two countries broke off relations back in 2016 after Saudi Arabia executed a prominent Shi'ite Cleric and Iranians stormed Saudi Diplomatic facilities in Iran in response. This was followed by Iran sponsoring Houthi backed strikes against Saudi Arabia including one attack that temporarily halved Saudi oil production. Saudi Arabia meanwhile has continued to back the Presidential Leadership Council in Opposition to the Iranian backed Houthis in their intervention in the still ongoing Yemeni Civil War.


The two countries will exchange Ambassadors and (re)open Embassies in the coming months.
 

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