Bear Ribs
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Those weren't real communists.
They were totes real communists while they were fighting Nazis, but quit being real communists the second that was over and they started sending Gay people into concentration camps.
Media/Journalism Cringe Megathread - Hot off the Presses
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Meanwhile in the country you said you want to go live in:
ETA: Meanwhile in Russia:
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The protestors shot at the police with guns.
And the police shot back.
Whole thing reeks of CIA involvement, given the timing and location.
Remember Pussy Riot?
The anti-Putin crowd is pretty much what I'd consider to be antifa/blm material over here.
It's just that the Russians do a good job of stopping this stuff in its tracks and preventing it from spiraling into the mess that engulfed USA a couple years ago.
Like I was saying, I'm just going to live there because it's cheap and the weather is good (at least in Crimea).
I don't give a rat's ass about their politics.
In case you are unaware of how great Biden's speech in Poland was...
You can take the word of former CBS News White House Correspondent Mark Knoller that it was that amazing.
Also something he posted less then an hour later...
"When Reagan said tear down this wall... he meant it in a figurative sense of being. Not in a literal, destructive manner which could imply regime change or a shift in power in the Warsaw Pact."
You can take the word of former CBS News White House Correspondent Mark Knoller that it was that amazing.
Also something he posted less then an hour later...
"When Reagan said tear down this wall... he meant it in a figurative sense of being. Not in a literal, destructive manner which could imply regime change or a shift in power in the Warsaw Pact."
Sobek
Disgusting Scalie
"How many levels of cope are you on about your blind TDS?"
WSJ: The President Should Avoid Public Speaking - WSJ
WSJ: The President Should Avoid Public Speaking - WSJ
"How many levels of cope are you on about your blind TDS?"
WSJ: The President Should Avoid Public Speaking - WSJ
These are people with very large egos admitting they fucked up might not be something their capable of.
SchrodingersWehraboo
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Is it cope? WSJ is fairly middle of the road. The author merely acknoweledges that Biden is incomprehensible and wants him to stop uttering stupid things in the middle of a crisis."How many levels of cope are you on about your blind TDS?"
WSJ: The President Should Avoid Public Speaking - WSJ
SchrodingersWehraboo
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Yeah, the Journal is at most centrist, more typically center left, and they certainly were not fans of Biden during the campaign, and in fact predicted most of what he'd go on to do in office:
Opinion | The Biden Contradiction
SchrodingersWehraboo
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When your propaganda is too stupid.
“impressive and insightful on the surface but pretty much every one is riddled with basic factual errors and ridiculous assumptions” pretty much describes the kinds of material that fools midwits, now that I think on it.
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SchrodingersWehraboo
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I know this is a belated reply, but the Ukrainianweekly source is fairly dubious, it cites a CNN “investigation” into “russian troll farms” and a Ukrainian ambassador giving his opinion. The idea that Russia backs BLM and Antifa while not bringing up other groups (Soros, the Bail project) seems like one conceived by liberals to pass off the blame for the rise of movements they argued on behalf of. Pro-CCP ML folks don’t have nearly the mainstream traction as antifa, either. They’re not the ones starting fights with protestors in anarcho-tyrannical jurisdictions on behalf of the state.UK communist site talking about THE REVOLUTION quotes Russian communists being very much against Ukraine and generally sharing that view.
Russian communists call for anti-fascist front against ‘Nato-led nazification of Ukraine'’
morningstaronline.co.uk
Some redpills on how Russia plays with these matters.
What do Russia, Antifa and Black Lives Matter have in common?
During the past several years, the Atlantic Council has been running reports on how Russian cyberwarfare and disinformation have been working overtime to undermine Western democracies in general, and Ukraine in particular. While Ukraine has been the target of Moscow’s attention, recently its...
TL;DR more anarchist leaning antifa groups and parts of the left support Ukraine or say both sides are fascists, more traditionally communist and pro-CCP kinds of far left support Russia.Russia/Ukraine fighting highlights divisions in far-left – Center for Security Policy
centerforsecuritypolicy.org
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The left has been trying to pass off antifa/blm as having come from China/Russia for a long while now. I imagine that some of the establishment are realizing that many of their own people hate them more than the ''enemy'' and are worried and hoping this bs will pass muster. It won't for me, my government is far more harmful to me than they are. Death to globalism in all it's forms.
Why are you going out of your way to defend the honor of an ex-communist spook run government and implying they would never, ever try to manipulate the political scene in foreign countries for own benefit, despite being run by the guys who were professionals in doing exactly that?
Its not even some crazy 12d logic involved, its very simple. Russia wants the political discourse in western countries to get as unstable, messy and preferably violent as possible. Couldn't care less how, why, who fires the first shot nor who fires the last one. The important to them part is that it would be one hell of a distraction from Russia's own activities, and why would they need such a distraction, you have it explained in what Russia is doing now and how the west is getting in the way. Of course the movements themselves have their own, different motivations for trying to change western societies, and some of their other supporters may have different motivations, but for Russian purposes that doesn't matter, they operate in the reality of pragmatic "what is now", not grand ideological designs for long term.
That's why both BLM and its opponents get egged on to fight by Russian state media, yet their more idealist supporters will bi unwilling to admit that like it or not, they do contribute to destabilization.
Of course at least some of the western sources who complain about it won't mention Soros, because when Soros supports the far left its to "change society", not cause a mess, and that's a cause they are more sympathetic to, yet are too hypocritical to admit that this supports destabilization too. They actually want the far left to win, while Russia and anyone else sharing their motivation just want the fringes to yell and fight a lot, and definitely not solidify power.
Some less outright ideological mainstream sources even get into quite spicy territory historically.
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Left's legendary pure and ideal civil rights movement supported by communists?!
Note that some of the reports quoted about BLM come from before the 2020 riots.
This odd tactical alliance also fully explains a great mystery people were asking many years before. Considering that Soros tried funding destabilizing movements in China and Russia, got banned from doing so in turn, and shit talks them constantly, why didn't they even try to assassinate him yet so far? After all, they assassinate other people for less...
Its simple, he's more useful to them alive. He just goes around the world and stirs trouble for both ideological approval and profit. Of course they can't tolerate someone stirring up trouble in their countries, but when it is done to someone else? Great! Destabilization for thee, not for me. Russia or China can easily ban Soros NGOs, western countries have legal and political roadblocks standing in the way so most won't.
SchrodingersWehraboo
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Is it defending Russia’s honor to point out that US Liberals shoot themselves and the country as a whole in the foot well enough without Russian help-help that is, as I should’ve made clearer in my view, a negligible impact on that wider political temperature, except according to the Left’s own sources like WaPo and CNN who would of course inflate Russia’s role?
According to Russia, not well enough, that's why they are helping.
And its not just leftist sources who claim that.
"Antifa serves the interest of Russia and China" - Jack Posobiec, OANN | www.againstthetide.tv
- Russia’s goal for the United States is strategic neutralization. [...] Americans should be full of discord, anger, division and chaos. That's what th ...
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Bassoe
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OK I'll bite, if BLM and Antifa were Russian psyops why, in the age of harmless-yet-Russian things like musicians, cats, movies on streaming services, etc getting Canceled, wouldn't blatant Russian-backed subversion be absolutely crushed by glowies?Why are you going out of your way to defend the honor of an ex-communist spook run government and implying they would never, ever try to manipulate the political scene in foreign countries for own benefit, despite being run by the guys who were professionals in doing exactly that?
Its not even some crazy 12d logic involved, its very simple. Russia wants the political discourse in western countries to get as unstable, messy and preferably violent as possible. Couldn't care less how, why, who fires the first shot nor who fires the last one. The important to them part is that it would be one hell of a distraction from Russia's own activities, and why would they need such a distraction, you have it explained in what Russia is doing now and how the west is getting in the way. Of course the movements themselves have their own, different motivations for trying to change western societies, and some of their other supporters may have different motivations, but for Russian purposes that doesn't matter, they operate in the reality of pragmatic "what is now", not grand ideological designs for long term.
That's why both BLM and its opponents get egged on to fight by Russian state media, yet their more idealist supporters will bi unwilling to admit that like it or not, they do contribute to destabilization.
Of course at least some of the western sources who complain about it won't mention Soros, because when Soros supports the far left its to "change society", not cause a mess, and that's a cause they are more sympathetic to, yet are too hypocritical to admit that this supports destabilization too. They actually want the far left to win, while Russia and anyone else sharing their motivation just want the fringes to yell and fight a lot, and definitely not solidify power.
Some less outright ideological mainstream sources even get into quite spicy territory historically.
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Left's legendary pure and ideal civil rights movement supported by communists?!
Note that some of the reports quoted about BLM come from before the 2020 riots.
This odd tactical alliance also fully explains a great mystery people were asking many years before. Considering that Soros tried funding destabilizing movements in China and Russia, got banned from doing so in turn, and shit talks them constantly, why didn't they even try to assassinate him yet so far? After all, they assassinate other people for less...
Its simple, he's more useful to them alive. He just goes around the world and stirs trouble for both ideological approval and profit. Of course they can't tolerate someone stirring up trouble in their countries, but when it is done to someone else? Great! Destabilization for thee, not for me. Russia or China can easily ban Soros NGOs, western countries have legal and political roadblocks standing in the way so most won't.
Doomsought
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Because soviet era Psy-ops are grandfathered in as immune.
Sad part is I'm only half joking here. Half the democratic platform is soviet psyops that have gone past their expiration date but were never taken out of the fridge because their the soviet union collapsed.
LordsFire
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Because BLM aren't 'Russian Psyops,' they're domestic dissidents and terrorists supported by Russians psyops because it's useful to Russia for dissidents and terrorists in the west to be strong.
Don't forget China. They'd too love for the USA to collapse into civil war. Which reminds me, recently I saw some theories on FunnyJunk that China is supporting the illegal drug business of the USA in inspiration of what the britbongs did to them.