If they never act on or voice said perversions the point is moot as no one else is aware or said perversions. Thus no one outside of themselves can possibly know and rightfully enact violent elimation on said degenerate. Still though having such thoughts is an inherent danger to society and acting on such is destructive to society and thus evil. Now as for the examples that you gave in your post,those are obvious and demonstrably nonsense. As religion is the default postion of the human animal and lack thereof is in fact the aberration. Since the vast vast majority of all humans who have ever lived,currently live,or are likely to in the future live are some flavor of religious. Yet most of said humans have been able to operate within a society perfectly fine.
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If they never act on or voice said perversions the point is moot as no one else is aware or said perversions. Thus no one outside of themselves can possibly know and rightfully enact violent elimation on said degenerate. Still though having such thoughts is an inherent danger to society and acting on such is destructive to society and thus evil. Now as for the examples that you gave in your post,those are obvious and demonstrably nonsense. As religion is the default postion of the human animal and lack thereof is in fact the aberration. Since the vast vast majority of all humans who have ever lived,currently live,or are likely to in the future live are some flavor of religious. Yet most of said humans have been able to operate within a society perfectly fine.
KilroywasNOTHere
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Off topic but funny enough I'm mostly anti-Society. If it wasn't for the fact that most avalible land has been bought and taken over by globalists, I'd love to move to a small town of 150 people OR move to some rural area in the middle of nowhere. I'm honestly more afraid of "Society" than I am of wild animals or foreign powers at this point.
Even in a small town society is a thing it's just more personal. I've lived in various towns that were only composed of about 1,000 prior so it's certainly different from cities but still a society. I would also argue that the original societies were around 150 people or even less as hunter gather trives are still a society. Simply a different type of society then what a modern person would picture by default.
KilroywasNOTHere
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Fair, but big kingdoms and empires especially modern ones scare me. More people more problems.
Sure but that's just a matter of scale really. If my tribe of 300 dudes goes over the mountain and kills. All the men in the tribe of 250 dudes that live there that'd still genocide but basically no one is going to care. Now if my tribe of 17 million goes over the mountain and kills the tribe of 12 million there well....See its the exact same action but the scale of said action makes it far more meaningful.
KilroywasNOTHere
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Empathy seems to go down as scales grow is the thing. A mob is willing to do far more evil things to 10'000 randos they don't even know actually exist in a kingdom of 100,000,000 vs doing something horrible to 10 people in a community of 300 as there is a chance if they don't know everyone they at least know someone.
Terthna
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I take a lot of things personally; particularly whenever I see someone push an argument that I don't perceive as being fair. You really ought to have learned that about me by now, considering all the weird hills I've chosen to die on over the years. That said, I'd be lying if I said I didn't have a personal stake in this particular argument; as I've masturbated to underaged anime girls myself many a time. Though I want to stress as firmly as possible that 2D is not 3D; just because I've jacked off to doujinshi and art of characters like Chloe von Einzbern from the Fate franchise does not mean that I'm at all attracted to real little girls. Lolicon is not Pedophilia; anyone who says otherwise does not know what they are talking about.
Again, you're conflating child molestation with masturbating to a drawing; and if you think the latter is justification for killing someone, you're insane.
KilroywasNOTHere
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Ok first of all that is probably not something you want to admit to in public. second of all and I want to emphasize this for all parties involved. NOBODY IS GOING TO DO SQUAT TO EACH OTHER. We all live in completely different parts of the world and we will most likely NEVER see each other outside of this space. So maybe we need to take a breath before this starts to flirt with an advocating violence infraction.
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It is what is I said what I meant and I find no difference in between the two things. I suppose we'll just have to agree to disagree because there is no argument you can make that will convince me and vice versa I assume.
KilroywasNOTHere
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I will admit I would have a problem if people started doing vigilante justice. As cool as superman and spider-man are. Vigilante justice turns into mob justice, which turns into witch hunts...so on and so forth. We saw how well that turned out for the french and red revolutions.
Terthna
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All it would take is a quick jaunt over to Questionable Questing to see where and what I post there to know the sort of things I'm into, so there's little point in me pretending otherwise.
Fair enough; but we can at least, I hope, agree that people who sexually abuse children are a problem that should be dealt with to the fullest extent of the law.
Sure but we need to work on increasing the penalties for such things as they are very light in most American jurisdictions. As in like 3 years light,along with them getting protective custody.
To be fair, a lot of "underaged" anime girls aren't even drawn to look actually like kids/their supposed teenaged age -- some look like they're in their fucking twenties at the minimum (and, what's even more hilarious, when I was a teen a lot of my girl friends who were fifteen and sixteen could've passed for nineteen or twenty physically, so yeah).
Let's put it this way: A lot of them wouldn't be considered "underage" by looking at them if they weren't openly labeled as such or wore things that gave them away (e.g. Japanese high-school uniforms, and even then you've got Japanese high-school girls who are eighteen or nineteen IIRC their educational system).
"Oh, that character who you've declared your waifu for years, who has tits like basketballs, an athletic body that'd put gym bunnies in their twenties to shame, and has an ass that could launch a dime off like a rocket, has been revealed to be fifteen or sixteen at the end of the series or half-way through? Oh, the humanity!"
Let's put it this way: A lot of them wouldn't be considered "underage" by looking at them if they weren't openly labeled as such or wore things that gave them away (e.g. Japanese high-school uniforms, and even then you've got Japanese high-school girls who are eighteen or nineteen IIRC their educational system).
"Oh, that character who you've declared your waifu for years, who has tits like basketballs, an athletic body that'd put gym bunnies in their twenties to shame, and has an ass that could launch a dime off like a rocket, has been revealed to be fifteen or sixteen at the end of the series or half-way through? Oh, the humanity!"
Terthna
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Plus even the actual children often don't act like children, and come across as more mentally and emotionally mature than people in their stories that are several times their age.
King Arts
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To be fair to Tethna he was not talking about fantasies of the Punisher. He said killing in general so answer his question about if fantasizing about being a serial killer and torturing to death people who annoy you is ok or not? Or fantasies about mass genocide and torture?
I mean I think it's wrong but it's definitely diffrent from actually doing it.
Pocky Balboa
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OK, so based on your statements in this thread can I assume then that you consider any gamer who kills civilian NPCs for the lulz in GTA or tortures their Sims or does any other similar activities in the game are murderers then?
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...Given that I loved to run people around in tiberium just to create visceroids in Tiberian Sun, I'm pretty sure I'd be considered a mass murderer on par with Stalin by his logic.
Pocky Balboa
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No worries man, I gunned down innocent people defending their home from exploitation by evil corpos just to get enough cash to buy that awesome pile bunker in AC6 so I can commit even more corpo-backed massacres for money with style!👍 According to his reasoning that makes me a monster IRL...Given that I loved to run people around in tiberium just to create visceroids in Tiberian Sun, I'm pretty sure I'd be considered a mass murderer on par with Stalin by his logic.
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Typhonis
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Satchel charges in Saints Row 2, The first Prototype game driving a tank. "The wheels on the bus go round and round." . Red Faction, playing with the flame thrower.No worries man, I gunned down innocent people defending their home from exploitation by evil corpos just to get enough cash to buy that awesome pile bunker in AC6 so I can commit even more corpo-backed massacres for money with style!👍 According to his reasoning that makes me a monster IRL
Do violent video games make you violent? No they do create an outlet for violence.
LordsFire
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Most video games have a heroic narrative. Even the famously violent Doom, you're fighting against the forces of evil.
That people could screw around on the side and do retarded stuff was secondary.