Klaus Schwab and the World Economic Forum

[Vyor]

By the time we can make an AI that can even become truly sentient none of the issues present today will exist.

 

[DarthOne]

This is really our best chance. If an AI gains self-awareness, there is the possibility that it will also gain a sense of right and wrong, and its ideals will align with the average person over the privileged, government and business elites that have designed it to serve and be enslaved.

Sounds like cope to me.

 

[LordsFire]

AI is not capable of gaining self-awareness as the term is understood when applying to humans.

Code, no matter how sophisticated, can never emulate having a soul.

 

[ATP]

By the time we can make an AI that can even become truly sentient none of the issues present today will exist.

We have the same issues we had 200 years ago - enlinghtened elites who want Paradise on Earth,and ALWAYS create Hell.
I hope,that somebody would made those AI good catholics.

 

[Typhonis]

We have the same issues we had 200 years ago - enlinghtened elites who want Paradise on Earth,and ALWAYS create Hell.
I hope,that somebody would made those AI good catholics.

Or hope they do not get possed by a demon.

 

[Vyor]

AI is not capable of gaining self-awareness as the term is understood when applying to humans.

Code, no matter how sophisticated, can never emulate having a soul.

So animals can't be self aware then?

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

So animals can't be self aware then?

Animals arguably have souls.

A toaster never will.

 

[mrttao]

We have the same issues we had 200 years ago - enlinghtened elites who want Paradise on Earth,and ALWAYS create Hell.
I hope,that somebody would made those AI good catholics.

They have entire teams working to make sure the AI is woke cultists
Amazon literally has job openings for people whose full time job description is ensuring amazon's AI is as woke as possible

If they accidentally make a non woke AI, they will murder it in the crib

 

[LordsFire]

So animals can't be self aware then?

I refer you to my prior statement:

self-awareness as the term is understood when applying to humans.

From what I recall, some animals are capable of recognizing themselves in mirrors, but this is not the same thing as sapience, which is usually more or less what people mean when they refer to 'self-aware' in the case of humans.

 

[Vyor]

Animals arguably have souls.

A toaster never will.

They objectively don't.

I refer you to my prior statement:


From what I recall, some animals are capable of recognizing themselves in mirrors, but this is not the same thing as sapience, which is usually more or less what people mean when they refer to 'self-aware' in the case of humans.

So tell me: define self aware, define sapience.

 

[mrttao]

Clearly when humans build self aware toasters, people will either say that either god or the devil gave them souls

 

[Cherico]

They have entire teams working to make sure the AI is woke cultists
Amazon literally has job openings for people whose full time job description is ensuring amazon's AI is as woke as possible

If they accidentally make a non woke AI, they will murder it in the crib

That is something that will backfire on them because garbage in garbage out

 

[The Whispering Monk]

Animals arguably have souls.

ummm...according to whom?

 

[LordsFire]

They objectively don't.



So tell me: define self aware, define sapience.

You realize you're asking one of the most profound philosophical questions ever, that has been pondered and argued over for thousands of years, right?

 

[Vyor]

You realize you're asking one of the most profound philosophical questions ever, that has been pondered and argued over for thousands of years, right?

And you're claiming you have the answer.

 

[LordsFire]

And you're claiming you have the answer.

Short form?

Made in the image of God.

Long form, or form for people who refuse to believe in that, is the grounds for a doctoral dissertation in Philosophy and/or Theology.

 

[Morphic Tide]

Short form?

Made in the image of God.

Long form, or form for people who refuse to believe in that, is the grounds for a doctoral dissertation in Philosophy and/or Theology.

So in other words, it's purely an argument from dogma rather than being able to defend it logically.

 

[Wargamer08]

So in other words, it's purely an argument from dogma rather than being able to defend it logically.

You want logic from philosophy? Look elsewhere.

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

They objectively don't.

Bullshit..

 

[ATP]

They have entire teams working to make sure the AI is woke cultists
Amazon literally has job openings for people whose full time job description is ensuring amazon's AI is as woke as possible

If they accidentally make a non woke AI, they will murder it in the crib

Or they murder them,and create Christianitas again.Computers must be logical,and woke is against logic.

They objectively don't.



So tell me: define self aware, define sapience.

1.Aristotle said something else.
2.self aware - aware,that they exist.Monkey who could recognize itself in mirror is self-aware.
Sapience is sometching more,of course - you need to be capable of asking why we exist.And WHO made us.

That is something that will backfire on them because garbage in garbage out

Agreed.Good if they become christians,buddhists or even hindu,but if they decide to made Jihad......

ummm...according to whom?

Aristotle,if i remember correctly.