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LordSunhawk

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Possibly, although Soros would have been only 14 at the time of the collaboration. I don’t mean to defend the scum bag though, but the picture of Soros in the SS uniform is not the real Soros. The scum was too young to have joined the SS.
Agreed there, that is plainly photoshopped, but doesn't diminish his culpability for his actual actions. Scum is scum.
 

TheRomanSlayer

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The technocrats don't care much for democracy in general, and what's worse is that their callous nature allows them to justify inflicting an insane amount of suffering on the so-called "useless eaters".
 

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The technocrats don't care much for democracy in general, and what's worse is that their callous nature allows them to justify inflicting an insane amount of suffering on the so-called "useless eaters".

It seems there's a bunch of different types of them.
There's the generic "we know what's good for people better than they do themselves" types.
And then there's the "all of society should be organized around what makes us the most money" types.

As for "useless eaters" - remember that these people probably think a business' only moral obligation is to make profits. So if you can't afford what they're selling, you might as well die.
 

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This guy is IMHO a deranged, senile old boomer frothing at the mouth and doubling down when his insane "utopian" ideas don't pan out or are outright resisted or disregarded.
The west is a shitshow exactly because senile old fools like him and like Soros, and megalomaniac autists like Gates, are still trying to run things despite being massively out of date.
The real enemies though, are the banksters and the Blob/deep state/eurocracy types and various fringe swing voters, like the green retards and the LGBTQmac&cheese lobby.
 

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some dude calling himself Spartacus has a neat explanation over on substack

That's me. I've taken up some interesting hobbies lately. Namely, I've gone from trolling people on SFF forums to deliberately fucking with the CIA. :ROFLMAO:

I wrote the original "letter" last September while hunched over my tablet at work, during my breaks, over the course of about five days or so, mostly working from memory. I then spammed it to the inboxes of several dissenter figures. Dr. Malone thought it looked good enough to repost it on Twitter. Then, the Automatic Earth blog reposted it from him. Then, ZeroHedge wrote an article about it that got 1.8 million hits. From there, it was translated into like, a dozen different languages and circled the globe.

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The sheer arrogance of these "technocrats" is what angers me, deep down. The arrogance, and the busybody control-freakery.

It's not just arrogance. It's sheer, raw malice. To an extent that people are ill-prepared to understand or accept.



If people knew what our leaders truly thought of them, they would be reaching for the torches and pitchforks.
 
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This is not even the first time.

The end of modernity is always a time of cults, and cultlike behavior, and it ends in an orgy of revolutions, violence, and needless bloodshed that could have all been easily avoided if the assholes with power didn't get so damned full of themselves. This will all fall appart when they realize that there can only be one ceasar, for the empire they are trying to create.
 

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This is not even the first time.

The end of modernity is always a time of cults, and cultlike behavior, and it ends in an orgy of revolutions, violence, and needless bloodshed that could have all been easily avoided if the assholes with power didn't get so damned full of themselves. This will all fall appart when they realize that there can only be one ceasar, for the empire they are trying to create.
More like the end of Globalism, unipolarity and the start of the bad part of the cycle, aka the fourth turning.

And yeah, all sorts of loons were roving and pushing their gibberish during the previous fourth turning, like the US Technocratic movement, which turned out to be a sham crafted by the founder to extract money from gullible idiots.
 

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More like the end of Globalism, unipolarity and the start of the bad part of the cycle, aka the fourth turning.

And yeah, all sorts of loons were roving and pushing their gibberish during the previous fourth turning, like the US Technocratic movement, which turned out to be a sham crafted by the founder to extract money from gullible idiots.

The proposition of these groups is quite radical; paying for things is stupid, and party politics are stupid, so let's get rid of voting, politicians and the political system entirely, abolish the price system, manage resources directly as if society is a machine that takes x amount of fuel to run and oil to lubricate, and ration goods to people based on what we can comfortably produce.



Strictly speaking, this isn't even communism. Even socialist governments relied on a price system and transplanted all the features of market capitalism into the public sector. The technocrats have their sights set much higher; post-scarcity/steady-state utopianism.

Just one problem with this proposition. If Earth is a pie of a finite size, and the population is too large, then everyone's "equal slice" is going to be very thin.

That's where the technocrats go "Oops, I guess we have to start killing people".
 

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The proposition of these groups is quite radical; paying for things is stupid, and party politics are stupid, so let's get rid of voting, politicians and the political system entirely, abolish the price system, manage resources directly as if society is a machine that takes x amount of fuel to run and oil to lubricate, and ration goods to people based on what we can comfortably produce.



Strictly speaking, this isn't even communism. Even socialist governments relied on a price system and transplanted all the features of market capitalism into the public sector. The technocrats have their sights set much higher; post-scarcity/steady-state utopianism.

Just one problem with this proposition. If Earth is a pie of a finite size, and the population is too large, then everyone's "equal slice" is going to be very thin.

That's where the technocrats go "Oops, I guess we have to start killing people".

The more Utopian the goals of an ideology, the more of a bodycount. It's how things work.
 

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And/or the bigger the scam.

The technocracy movement was a scam pushed by some candlestick maker, IIRC.
These guys are no different, they are even dumber for drinking their own kool aid.

Did you know that Elon Musk's grandfather, Joshua Haldeman, was part of the Technocracy Movement?


Technocracy Incorporated was not a political movement – in fact, politicians or members of political parties were not allowed to join. It was founded in New York City in 1933 as an educational and research organization promoting a radical restructuring of political, social and economic life in Canada and the United States, with science as its central operating principle. There would be no politicians, business people, money or income inequality. Those were all features of what Technocracy called the “price system,” and it would have to go.

There would be no countries called Canada or the United States, either – just one giant continental land mass called the Technate, a techno-utopia run by engineers and other “experts” in their fields. In the Technate, everyone would be well-housed and fed. All material needs would be taken care of, whether you had a job or not.

Joshua Haldeman was a leader of Technocracy Incorporated in Canada from 1936 to 1941, but eventually became disillusioned with both the organization and the country, and packed up his young family to start life anew in South Africa. In June 1971, Haldeman’s daughter Maeve gave birth to his first grandson. His name is Elon Musk.





There are a lot of similarities between the beliefs of the Technocrats and the Logical Positivists of the Vienna School. Generally, the reason why they abhorred money, prices, and market economics was because all of these things involved subjective value judgments.

If you pick up a teeny lump of gold and declare that it's worth $100, you're making a subjective appraisal of its price. If, on the other hand, you were to say that it weighed a couple grams, you would be making an observation about the object's physical properties.

The former is normative. The latter is positive.


Generally, the goal of the Technocrats was to remove the idea of normative value from society and just run everything like a big machine, where only the physical magnitudes of everything are taken into account, and not the make-believe of subjective value.

All of this goes back to Nietzsche's observation that "God is Dead". Without the help of an external, infallible appraiser, nihilism seems inevitable. Nietzsche's argument for an "overman" was to replace God with a strong-willed person capable of creating subjective values from nothing.

People are often very dead-set against these ideas, on an emotional level, largely because of their attachment to money, but also due to their attachment to the concept of subjective value. That's where mind control comes in. The goal of the technocrats is, ultimately, to wipe out the very concept of subjective value itself and bring about a world of "pure matter", even if they have to forcibly destroy the idea within people's heads.

This isn't even really an economic problem. It's a meta-ethical and metaphysical problem.



Value is an emergent property of the mind. Philosophers have long argued about whether or not value describes anything real, however. This is because, in some sense, people still believe in mind-body dualism, where what the mind cognizes is not necessarily a part of reality, but somehow alongside and above it.

The trouble with all of this, of course, is that you can never really escape subjective value judgments at all. Technocracy, as a philosophical framework, may be able to analyze society and determine that we have enough resources to feed, clothe, and shelter the homeless. It cannot, however, provide the answer as to why we should not simply grind them up and turn them into food, without resorting to subjective statements like "because it displeases us".
 
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Agent23

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George goes into the Club of Rome/Davoss and their bullshit predictions.
We are talking about truly "special" people.Ones that have the solutions before them in the form of nuclear power, but are so weak and dumb that can't even deal with the greens/NIMBYs.
 

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Yuval Noah Harari: "With this kind of surveillance, (you can detect dissent). I mean, you watch the big President, the big leader, give a speech on television — the television could be monitoring you and knowing whether you're angry or not just by analyzing the cues, the biological cues coming from your body."

 
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Agent23

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Yuval Noah Harari: "With this kind of surveillance, (you can detect dissent). I mean, you watch the big President, the big leader, give a speech on television — the television could be monitoring you and knowing whether you're angry or not just by analyzing the cues, the biological cues coming from your body."
An expert in "social philosophy" and Big History, whatever that made-up term is, talking about tech.
Yeah, ok dude, is the only response he is entitled to get.
Maybe a laugh track, too.
 

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