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you know he could have just you know not stabbed a man...
PFFFFFT! The knife made him do it!
Terthna
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More importantly, Japanese prisons are very different from how they are in the west; there, they actually punish prisoners, instead of just holding them for a while until it's time to inflict them back upon the general populace, while also providing them an opportunity to network with and learn from fellow criminals. So, he's about to have a very bad time.
SoliFortissimi
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TL;DW? I'm pretty sure that US prisons, with all their rapes and shankings, are pretty good at making life hell for its occupants.
Oh yeah, the Japanese penal system is very harsh.
In a Western nation, he'd be released, apologized to, have his arse kissed, and maybe have some of the politicians involved give him a complementary blowjob and iPhone.
That guy is proverbially fucked: He'll wish he was back in his third-world shithole before long.
In a Western nation, he'd be released, apologized to, have his arse kissed, and maybe have some of the politicians involved give him a complementary blowjob and iPhone.
That guy is proverbially fucked: He'll wish he was back in his third-world shithole before long.
DarthOne
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Haitian migrant fatally stabs his 2 roommates inside NY apartment before deportation hearing: report
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Haitian migrant fatally stabs his 2 roommates inside NY apartment before deportation hearing: report
Local officials are asking how Baptiste got into the country in the first place.
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They are both horrible, but in different ways. I don't think in a Japanese prison that you'd have to worry about getting shanked or raped, but you're in what amounts to a permanent boot camp, where every minute of your day is planned out and rules are rigidly enforced, and solitary confinement for days, weeks, or months is the punishment for such trifle things as your mattress not being folded the right way or your desk not being in the right spot. And in this case it amounts to sitting or kneeling the entire time in the middle of a small room with little sleep. In the Japanese justice system, your guilt is assumed, and the police have indeed beaten confessions out of people, even people who hadn't actually committed the crime. And given that the Japanese can be more than a little racist and xenophobic, the fact that this foreigner stabbed a Japanese man to steal from him means they're going to treat him just as harshly as they can.
King Arts
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Be fair now. Most people in Japanese prisons aren't innocent. The Japanese justice system is pretty good and even if at the trial most people get convicted their system makes sure they only bring to trial those they are 99% have a chance to convict thus are almost certainly guilty. There are probably more innocent men in America's prisons.
I am being fair. If the police arrest you, they are sure you are guilty, whether you actually are or not.
Yeah, in Japan it's typically guilty before being proven innocent than the West's innocent until proven guilty (well, it should be, but you know American courts these days when it comes to being on the Left or Right with preferential treatment).
This rat's life is going to be a living hell to the point where he's going to be begging to be sent back to his third-world shithole.
mrttao
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Eh. the japanese prison is not that bad
Discipline. but that is it.
honestly looks way safer than american prisons
The discipline in those prisons makes it hell, and given he's a foreigner... yeah, he's fucked.
See @Captain X's post as examples.
mrttao
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Discline isn't hell.
In american prisons, you get raped and shanked.
In japan prison, they force strict discipline on you.
I will take the japanese cell over the american one.
They both hell in different ways, but despite the possibilities of being shanked or sexually assaulted and basically being turned into hardened criminals, your everyday life there wouldn't be too bad in comparison.
In an American prison, leaving a bit of food on your tray or not having perfectly folded bed sheets won't have you punished by having you thrown in solitary, or having you forced to kneel in a room somewhere.
You aren't escorted with your hands behind your head everywhere and anywhere by armed guards.
You'd literally be living on edge, fearful of even a minor "infraction" leading you to be punished or to lose what little privileges you have for days, weeks, or even months.
That doesn't happen in American prisons.
Worse still if you're on death row in Japan: You don't know when you're going to be executed. It could be months, years, or even decades. One day, they'll just come into your cell, drag you off, and off you go from this mortal coil.
So, yeah -- this third-world barbarian is going to wish he went to Europe or America and tried this shit instead (as disgusting as it is to type that, given that the corrupt politicians and the justice systems would give him an apology, an iPhone, and a complimentary blowjob).
strunkenwhite
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There are certainly more innocents in American prisons just because there are so many people in American prisons. But even if the Japanese justice system is better than the American one at identifying the correct suspects, I've heard that by the time they get to prosecuting you they are so confident they're right that they will absolutely railroad innocent people to maintain that 99%, and have done so in pretty egregious cases whose details I do not recall.
mrttao
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one more thing to consider is... currently in USA they are engaging in some very 3rd world shit.
Like, actually torturing political prisoners like the J6 prisoners.
They put them in permanent solitary. with a light that cannot be turned off. And every 5 minute they play a loud noise and flicker the lights on and off so they can't sleep. a bucket instead of a toilet, filthy ultra thin mattress with no blanket. only pants, no shirt. with occasional beating sessions.
You are not the kind of person to commit a real crime. So if you get thrown in prison in america, it is probably for political reasons... so... expect the above.
Its going to get a lot, lot, lot worse before it gets better.
SoliFortissimi
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Alright, do we have sources for that?
In American jails, you get a look at anarcho-tyranny. It just makes you more of a criminal because the suffering comes from being weak and at the mercy of both unjust state-sanctioned tyrants that think you're inherently inferior and powerful criminals who flout the law with impunity and get away with it.
So all you learn is that you will suffer from hypocritical injustice until and unless you become a big shot criminal.
In Japanese jails, you get a look at orderly torture. You are broken down, forced to submit to the law, and punished if you don't. You see that the state is like an impossibly well oiled machine, and that the only way to avoid its wrath is to become a slave to its laws.
So what you learn is that there is no winning, just surrender.