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colorles

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blood feuds have been started based on less.

that is true. there are some churches where i am from that, even in this year 2023, i am confident many men would still be willing to kill if such churches were desecrated in any way.

for the matter, Islamists do, in fact want to destroy churches and according to Islamic doctrine, when the Mahdi and Jesus come to earth at the end times Jesus will instruct all Christians to stop worshiping him and to destroy all places of Christian worship, and to convert to Islam
 
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ThatZenoGuy

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Anti-Christian rhetoric has already spread like wildfire in Western nations, most college-educated people decry 'Old Christian White guys' for destroying the world.

As far as the average peon today is concerned, burning churches is all the better.
 

SoliFortissimi

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Christianity has been dying for over three centuries. It hasn't been capable of challenging its enemies since around the early 20th century.

However, the ideals of Liberalism and the Enlightenment still have strength, and will still be enough to see Islamism to its grave.
 

Jormungandr

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Christianity has been dying for over three centuries. It hasn't been capable of challenging its enemies since around the early 20th century.

However, the ideals of Liberalism and the Enlightenment still have strength, and will still be enough to see Islamism to its grave.
The World Wars, especially the First, were pretty much death blows.

So much death and destruction shattered people and their faith.
 

Cherico

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The World Wars, especially the First, were pretty much death blows.

So much death and destruction shattered people and their faith.

Faiths have come back from much worse, and when this modern age ends the new ceasars and the new agustine after him will look for glue to hold society together. Relgion will likely be the reply to that question.
 

Jormungandr

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The World Wars were not only heavily documented, they also had casualties (civilian and military) in total coming up to 97 million people... In about twenty years apart from one when ended and another began.

That's also not including all the horrific shit that accompanied it, such as the various genocides, purges, and famines that came about because of communism and the like.

This all irrecoverably broke the back of Christianity in Europe on basically all cultural levels.

Also, when I see people say "we're going to have a religious revival after this Modern Period ends!", like it'll be some magic cure all, I can't help but laugh -- it's pure copium.

Christianity is never going to be as dominant as it once was -- Atheism and Agnosticism are now too widespread.

Oh, don't get me wrong, modernism and globalism are going to crash and burn very soon, probably within two decades or so, but Christianity is never going to be the magic bullet that people will somehow turn to and thus create some religious, postmodern utopia like how many desperate Christians here are banking on.

It ain't gonna happen, people.

Sure, you'll have an upswing of younger people turning to Christianity maybe, but a revival and Christianity becoming dominant as it had been in the last few centuries again? Copium, and a laughable one at that.

One of the main, real threats out there is basically Islam getting its hooks into Europe through this chaotic migration/invasion/population displacement over the next few decades. That's the real threat.
 

Marduk

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The World Wars were not only heavily documented, they also had casualties (civilian and military) in total coming up to 97 million people... In about twenty years apart from one when ended and another began.

That's also not including all the horrific shit that accompanied it, such as the various genocides, purges, and famines that came about because of communism and the like.

This all irrecoverably broke the back of Christianity in Europe on basically all cultural levels.

Also, when I see people say "we're going to have a religious revival after this Modern Period ends!", like it'll be some magic cure all, I can't help but laugh -- it's pure copium.

Christianity is never going to be as dominant as it once was -- Atheism and Agnosticism are now too widespread.

Oh, don't get me wrong, modernism and globalism are going to crash and burn very soon, probably within two decades or so, but Christianity is never going to be the magic bullet that people will somehow turn to and thus create some religious, postmodern utopia like how many desperate Christians here are banking on.

It ain't gonna happen, people.

Sure, you'll have an upswing of younger people turning to Christianity maybe, but a revival and Christianity becoming dominant as it had been in the last few centuries again? Copium, and a laughable one at that.

One of the main, real threats out there is basically Islam getting its hooks into Europe through this chaotic migration/invasion/population displacement over the next few decades. That's the real threat.
I would go a step further, this phenomenon is not even limited to Christianity or tied to major wars (Christianity did survive reformation and the also very nasty wars about it after all), it is tied to development as civilization and all religions being slow to adapt to the changed requirements for getting wide appeal, if they ever will.
It happens in all the countries that are keeping up with the first world in civilizational development. No exceptions. Look at Japan, SK, even more developed Islamic countries like Turkey see it. If anyone, anywhere bucks that trend, we will have some hard data on what it takes to do so, but so far we can only theorize.
The guy who wrote about Turkey puts it in a very simple way:
'You get secularization if you have these three components:
urbanisation, capitalism and science. We have them'
- Volkan Ertit, Aksaray University
He also has a more exhaustive article about this.
 

mrttao

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Christianity is never going to be as dominant as it once was -- Atheism and Agnosticism are now too widespread.
The thing is, atheists do not breed.

Israel back in the day was supermajority atheist.
Now atheist make up a minority. Simply because the religious have large families. The atheists don't.

And those rare few atheists that do have kids, are very vulnerable to those kids being indoctrinated by the LGBTQP cult.
 

Jormungandr

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You keep claiming this, yet it is not the generation that fought WWI or WWII that abandoned God, it's the post-war generation, which were raised in the cultural and sexual revolution of the 1960's.

The evidence does not fit your narrative.
That generation and the circumstances which shaped it came from the after effects of two World Wars and the then-ongoing Cold War.

If the First World War didn't happen, Europe would still likely be predominantly Christian as it had been for centuries earlier.

But they happened, and the after affects ultimately shaped Europe and its various cultures into what we see today.

Christianity is never going to be as dominant as it was in the past ever again. You and others need to accept that instead of banking on pure copium that there's going to be some magical renaissance in the near-future.
The thing is, atheists do not breed.

Israel back in the day was supermajority atheist.
Now atheist make up a minority. Simply because the religious have large families. The atheists don't.

And those rare few atheists that do have kids, are very vulnerable to those kids being indoctrinated by the LGBTQP cult.
And you're not factoring into the amount of people who have become apostates from Christianity (and other religions). And, yes, atheists do breed -- someone born into an atheist or agnostic family is very likely to have children believing the same, just as growing up in a religious family will likely create those believing in religion.

I'm one of them, despite going to a Christian Primary School (fucking hell, the goddamn hymns we had to sing every fucking morning).
 

The Whispering Monk

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I'm one of them, despite going to a Christian Primary School (fucking hell, the goddamn hymns we had to sing every fucking morning).
OMG...you had to sing. You poor creature. /s

From my point of view, a lot of people, especially the young, are looking for something to anchor themselves in. A sound, religious doctrine is a huge pull for them.

The fact that Islam presents itself as unapologetic is one of the reasons it does so well with recruiting young people. Well, that and the sheer indoctrination that goes on in the ME.

Christianity is getting better at 'recruitment' and numbers are going up for the young Christian population.

Both Islam and Christianity provide both boys and girls a stable role to fulfill. To grant them purpose and belonging.

I'm not going to argue about which one is better, I'm sure y'all know my perspective by now, I'm just pointing these things out b/c @Jormungandr and @Marduk are going to be very surprised when things shift heavily towards a MORE RELIGIOUS world than they are seeing right now.

It's going to be our job to train our kids to make sure that world doesn't begin and end in persecution of the unreligious and vice versa.
 

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