• The Sietch will be brought offline for HPG systems maintenance tomorrow (Thursday, 2 May 2024). Please remain calm and do not start any interstellar wars while ComStar is busy. May the Peace of Blake be with you. Precentor Dune

Immigration and multiculturalism news

Culsu

Agent of the Central Plasma
Founder
Germany's military... no idea. I know they're underequipped, but with Russia being cunts they've had a massive uptick in military spending, so they're slowly coming back up to scratch.
The Bundeswehr is a bunch of neutered puppies, and the supposed uptick in spending is years away from bearing any fruit. Right now, noticeable parts of the still active stock of equipment is being sent to Ukraine, recruitment is as low as ever, the forces are celebrating trans commanders, and they're cutting spending on equipment because they can't pay their heating bills as costs for heating have 'suddenly and unexpectedly' increased by 661 million (totally no relation to the government's disastrous energy policies, I'm sure).
 

Jormungandr

The Midgard Wyrm
Founder
The Bundeswehr is a bunch of neutered puppies, and the supposed uptick in spending is years away from bearing any fruit. Right now, noticeable parts of the still active stock of equipment is being sent to Ukraine, recruitment is as low as ever, the forces are celebrating trans commanders, and they're cutting spending on equipment because they can't pay their heating bills as costs for heating have 'suddenly and unexpectedly' increased by 661 million (totally no relation to the government's disastrous energy policies, I'm sure).
Wow, it's that bad? :whistle:
 

Culsu

Agent of the Central Plasma
Founder
Wow, it's that bad? :whistle:
Yeah, it's ridiculous. Then recently the Secretary of Defense (social democrat) came out and said something along the lines of 'we have to get ready to defend ourselves again', and much of the right on social media wavered between blatant apathy and 'nah, we're good, we're not going to risk our lifes for you and your shit policies'.
 

mandragon

Well-known member
It's not the elites or the well educated who are most likely to die in wars. It's the same poor rural youths you idealize. The upper classes just buy commissions or stay at home and send the soldiers to die for land, power and gold.

As for immigration, the Germans and French seem to have finally started to crack down on Jihadis.
The elites being parasites that abuse the average rural man who supports thier position and wealth. Through his blood or labor is in fact the point of f1ongets post,which I assume is what you are replying to. Since apparently you are to cowardly to actually tag the person who's idea you object to in the above post
 

mrttao

Well-known member
The elites being parasites that abuse the average rural man who supports thier position and wealth. Through his blood or labor is in fact the point of f1ongets post,which I assume is what you are replying to. Since apparently you are to cowardly to actually tag the person who's idea you object to in the above post
last I checked their support comes mainly from the woke city folks rather than the average rural man.
 

AnimalNoodles

Well-known member
Industrialization made urbanites more useful to the nation and economy than rural populations so modern nations hyper-urbanized. Globalization exacerbated this situation making any citizen still living outside of a concrete jungle an actual detriment if they weren't actively involved in resource extraction. Unfortunately in space-premium urban environments it becomes expensive to raise kids and the populations started to drop, depriving nations of their workforces. So callous plutocrats starting trying to figure out a way to just import fully formed adults without having to raise them. And if possible avoid taking care of them when they wear out too.

Its an extension of neo-liberal economics. Its cheaper to outsource the manufacture of the bioproduction and consumption units to lower cost jurisdictions like senegal and somalia and import the raw product and do finishing work here.

When your entire economic ideology is focused on "big line go up" everything becomes just another fungible part of the supply chain, including labour.
 

ThatZenoGuy

Zealous Evolutionary Nano Organism
Comrade
1700121893460007.png

So in about 30 years or so, unless Germans start crapping out 10 kids a piece, Germany will be statistically "Not German".

Woo! Demographics is fun!
 

willdelve4beer

Well-known member
To quote a wit somewhere (wish I could remember who, it really is a pithy turn of phrase)

"The future belongs to those who show up"

I fail to see why this surprises anyone in "the west" - we've spent almost 70 years turning mass infanticide into a public sacrament, Lo and behold, we now have a (allegedly inexplicable) shortage of children. Who woulda' thunk it?
 

ThatZenoGuy

Zealous Evolutionary Nano Organism
Comrade
To quote a wit somewhere (wish I could remember who, it really is a pithy turn of phrase)

"The future belongs to those who show up"

I fail to see why this surprises anyone in "the west" - we've spent almost 70 years turning mass infanticide into a public sacrament, Lo and behold, we now have a (allegedly inexplicable) shortage of children. Who woulda' thunk it?
It's not that simple though. People didn't just go "Welp, baby grinding machines go BRRRRR", it's been decades of extreme 'progress' to get where we are.

A bunch of creeps in power started whispering in everybody's ears

"Psst, do you need that fourth child? Get yourself a nice car!"
"Psst, do you need that third child? You might not be able to afford the mortgage"
"Psst, a second child is bad for the environment, lets not be selfish!"
and finally
"Why have kids at all? Have a fur-baby! All the kittens you want!"

Meanwhile these creeps then went "Oh dear we're out of babies! Better bring in their replacements! Oh you silly natives just aren't breeding enough for OUR needs, the line MUST ALWAYS GO UP"

Fit in feminism, birth control, and abortion in there as well and you just deliberately went out of your way to brainwash entire populations into genociding themselves by accident. That's still a crime.

So it's not just about infanticide, it's the entire concept of having children. Not to mention 'mysterious causes' making sperm counts plummet, modern men would be classified as 'almost sterile' by the standards of the 50's.
 

Marduk

Well-known member
Moderator
Staff Member
It's not that simple though. People didn't just go "Welp, baby grinding machines go BRRRRR", it's been decades of extreme 'progress' to get where we are.

A bunch of creeps in power started whispering in everybody's ears

"Psst, do you need that fourth child? Get yourself a nice car!"
"Psst, do you need that third child? You might not be able to afford the mortgage"
"Psst, a second child is bad for the environment, lets not be selfish!"
and finally
"Why have kids at all? Have a fur-baby! All the kittens you want!"

Meanwhile these creeps then went "Oh dear we're out of babies! Better bring in their replacements! Oh you silly natives just aren't breeding enough for OUR needs, the line MUST ALWAYS GO UP"

Fit in feminism, birth control, and abortion in there as well and you just deliberately went out of your way to brainwash entire populations into genociding themselves by accident. That's still a crime.
Industrialization made urbanites more useful to the nation and economy than rural populations so modern nations hyper-urbanized. Globalization exacerbated this situation making any citizen still living outside of a concrete jungle an actual detriment if they weren't actively involved in resource extraction. Unfortunately in space-premium urban environments it becomes expensive to raise kids and the populations started to drop, depriving nations of their workforces. So callous plutocrats starting trying to figure out a way to just import fully formed adults without having to raise them. And if possible avoid taking care of them when they wear out too.
It's important to note that these two theories are in no way mutually exclusive, and if anything, are most likely both true and have a cumulative and heavily redundant effect, with different proportions depending on time and place.
We can see the power of the socioeconomic cause (also with missing here credit to Bismarckian social security schemes) even in more exotic places that have nothing to do with the western leftist self-hate clubs under pink, rainbow and green flags and their retarded policies, like Russia, Turkey, Taiwan, Iran, Japan and China.
Elites everywhere *really* like a license to practice short-termism in their governance and reap the front-loaded profits such policies bring. What happens next, oh well, that will be future elite's problem.

Trying to solve one problem without addressing the other carries high risk of creating an illusion of failure to deliver significant effects despite the high costs of solving it, as with one source of the problem being addressed, the other would still remain and to some degree compensate for solving the other.
So it's not just about infanticide, it's the entire concept of having children. Not to mention 'mysterious causes' making sperm counts plummet, modern men would be classified as 'almost sterile' by the standards of the 50's.
Lately confirmed to be related to some classes of pesticides, but overall not a major issue compared to the other, much thinner bottlenecks, conspiracymongers bringing it (and many other even stupider alternate theories) up only to cause unnecessary confusion in an already complicated and tough to deal with matter.
 

Users who are viewing this thread

Top