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mrttao
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Have they? what was the date of the original video by the racist guy?
Also, I can't help but notice those "enlightened" people spell it as "Whyte" instead of "white".
And all the anti-white racists in the comments
mrttao
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facepalm.
1. you keep on posting long videos without any hint of what timestamps to look at, summaries of what is in it, etc. nobody got time to watch all of it.
although I knew you would whine if I just left it at that so I sacrificed my time and watched it anways. But it is very annoying to have my time wasted.
2. The video you just posted shows an argument over dogshit.
Specifically, the person filming just let her dog crap all over the place and did not pick it up. Which is a pretty shitty thing to do.
And during the argument the only even remotely possibly racist thing he said is asking if she is a legal migrant, she said yes and... that was it. he believed her moved on. they argued back and forth a bit. And it looks like her words were editted out so you can only see his words out of context
3. He never mentions trump or MAGA. He says liberals are whiners who cry a lot and want gays to groom children in school to castrate them. And that a real man like him is a conservative who uses logical arguments to debate people honestly with words.
You and those influences are assuming this means MAGA because apparently MAGA now means "anyone who didn't vote for harris". As if that is one big monolithic group.
As if Neocons don't exist, or never-trumpers, or any of the other streams of conservatives.
4. I asked for evidence on WHEN the first video was shot.
You instead give me a different video with a different person.
So you are not even bothering to try to answer any questions. instead you do the low effort thing and toss different links my way.
In both videos you posted there is the original video, then there is a video of liberal white male commenting about it, then there is a video of 2 black girls commenting on the commenting. So it is like a matrioska doll of comments. Which adds an unknown amount of time between the original video and the posting of it on the site you are linking to. Which calls into question when the original video was made
I have concluded that the 2nd video is after the election because "voted for harris" was mentioned. But you couldn't even be bothered to include this tidbit. And it is a very important bit because it is critical to your argument that "racists have been emboldened" (presumably by the election? you don't clarify). This requires establishing the order of events.
It might shock you, but people occasionally said racist things before the election.
And the videos you are posting are comments on comments.
Even if it was a racist rant (it isn't. it is a heavily edited argument showing only one side's statements out of context, containing 1 single maybe racist statement), but let us pretend it was a racist rant.
Finding 2 examples of racists in a country of 350 million is not a statistic, it is an anectdote
Also, how do you know those specific individuals never said anything racist before Trump was elected? Because emboldened means they were too scared to say it before but are not scared to say it now.
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The second video is the short version. There is a much longer version out there. And it has much more going on. And it involves shady things he has done before hand. But I figured you didn't want to watch an hour long video.
Skitzyfrenic
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Well, you could put time stamps to encourage watching the parts of the videos you think Mr Ttao should watch and are critical to your position. Or link to a single time stamp. You can make YT links with specific time starts you know that?
There are easy tools for this. Would take a few more minutes to line things up, yeah. And I get not wanting to sink your entire day into it, but if you had perfect proof, like you imply by the long version existing, you'd just want to show that.
Really feels like you're half assing providing proof and then just going 'trust me bro.' I mean props for linking to videos for an actual point in the first place, so don't get me wrong. But your alleged proof feels weak according to Mr Ttao, the guy you're arguing/debating with, and your defense of not showing more proof because it was a long video is also kinda weak.
Also the question of when the incident took place is also unanswered. And it's important to the discussion. The thumbnail and when you posted the first video implies/tells me this is supposed to be a recent event and change.
Your statement of:
Tells me that he has likely not been emboldened post Trump victory, but is simply continuing to do things he's always done. Actually undermining your original point.
I've no real skin in this particular argument, but that is what I'm seeing just putzing about.
You posited something
with a video allegedly supporting it, implying that the Trump victory is what emboldened them (so when the incident took place is important to the position) and it, so far, has not withstood Mr Ttao's light probing and (alleged, to be fair to you) good faith video watching. You've even managed to make your point look weaker.
Showing that he was bad/shady before but is worse now with the long video would support your point, but you haven't done that, by your own admission, either.
Dunno. You certainly did better than Captain X who loves to just post videos no summaries at all. Not even pithy one liners.
*shakes fist*
I have limited download speeds and can't watch the videos, and the titles don't stretch all the way across the videobox so I can't use that to make a summary up, Captain!
But he just posts more in a 'here's something to discuss' manner because of how he posts it, and less making a point.
There are easy tools for this. Would take a few more minutes to line things up, yeah. And I get not wanting to sink your entire day into it, but if you had perfect proof, like you imply by the long version existing, you'd just want to show that.
Really feels like you're half assing providing proof and then just going 'trust me bro.' I mean props for linking to videos for an actual point in the first place, so don't get me wrong. But your alleged proof feels weak according to Mr Ttao, the guy you're arguing/debating with, and your defense of not showing more proof because it was a long video is also kinda weak.
Also the question of when the incident took place is also unanswered. And it's important to the discussion. The thumbnail and when you posted the first video implies/tells me this is supposed to be a recent event and change.
Your statement of:
Tells me that he has likely not been emboldened post Trump victory, but is simply continuing to do things he's always done. Actually undermining your original point.
I've no real skin in this particular argument, but that is what I'm seeing just putzing about.
You posited something
with a video allegedly supporting it, implying that the Trump victory is what emboldened them (so when the incident took place is important to the position) and it, so far, has not withstood Mr Ttao's light probing and (alleged, to be fair to you) good faith video watching. You've even managed to make your point look weaker.
Showing that he was bad/shady before but is worse now with the long video would support your point, but you haven't done that, by your own admission, either.
Dunno. You certainly did better than Captain X who loves to just post videos no summaries at all. Not even pithy one liners.
*shakes fist*
I have limited download speeds and can't watch the videos, and the titles don't stretch all the way across the videobox so I can't use that to make a summary up, Captain!
But he just posts more in a 'here's something to discuss' manner because of how he posts it, and less making a point.
I have in the past posted videos as you suggested. But they just got handwaved away so why bother when they are just gonna engage in cognitive dissonance. At some point you just post raw form video.
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Skitzyfrenic
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And you not engaging like any of Mr Ttao's points besides video length? Because Mr Ttao was engaging you in what seems to be very good faith. Even went out of his way to put in more effort than usual.
In fact, if Mr Ttao is to be believed, it's quite tame. And if you are to be believed, it's quite normal for this individual.
'Are you a legal migrant?' is hardly calling someone a slur. And is allegedly, according to Mr Ttao, the height of the dude's racial aggression.
That hardly sounds emboldened.
As an outside observer, Mr Ttao is making good counter points, and you are looking like you're pearl clutching over minor things or nothing at all. Or just want people to side with you because 'trust me bro, video exists bro.' Especially since you... haven't actually engaged meaningfully with him.
This is made worse because you actually make it sound like people consistently ignore your alleged proof because it's weaksauce and, further, you aren't good at convincing people, not because of any cognitive dissonance.
I'm afraid that I remain unconvinced that racists have been emboldened.
Lies. I post TL;DWs all the time unless it's like a minute-long video.
IndyFront
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Yeah didn't David Duke endorse Kamala Harris? She ran quite right-wing and attracted quite a few from the far-right iirc.
It's a long standing tradition for the KKK to endorse Democrat candidates, which makes sense since most of their senior members were either members or knew members of the klan.
mrttao
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Last KKK member in congress died in 2010. He was a democrat congressman until the day of his death.
Robert Byrd - Wikipedia
He of course claimed to have been "reformed" and "no longer racis".
But as a democrat, he was also actively working to destroy the black family and drive them into poverty and dependence on the govt.
The black family survived slavery. But it did not survive democrats.
Blacks raised by single moms was 13% in the IIRC 1960s...
Today it is between 77% (black mom black dad) and 98% (white mom, black dad)
The democrats successfully murdered the black family unit.
Yeah, olde Byrd, a beloved Exalted Cyclops. Mentor of Joe Biden, and mourned by B. Obama.Last KKK member in congress died in 2010. He was a democrat congressman until the day of his death.
The democrat party mourned his passing.Robert Byrd - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
He of course claimed to have been "reformed" and "no longer racis".
But as a democrat, he was also actively working to destroy the black family and drive them into poverty and dependence on the govt.
The black family survived slavery. But it did not survive democrats.
Blacks raised by single moms was 13% in the IIRC 1960s...
Today it is between 77% (black mom black dad) and 98% (white mom, black dad)
The democrats successfully murdered the black family unit.
