Warhammer 40K How quickly would modern Earth capitulate to two full Space Marine Chapters?

Tyzuris

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Let's assume that Doom Eagles and Silver Skulls chapters with a combined fleet of 2 battle barges, seven strike cruisers and 20ish rapid strike vessels appeared in our Solar System with 2000 Space Marines.

Assume they do their usual battle doctrines, etc...

How long will it take till all nations on Earth have capitulated and surrendered to Space Marines?
 

Agent23

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The big problem would be their space assets as well as some of their heavier aircraft and vehicles.
Without all that stuff it might be possible to use attrition against the Space Marines and bury them under mountains of corpses and shell them into oblivion.
Furthermore Clean Warp = Teleportariums working exceedingly well.

The second they decide to use their orbital supremacy we will all see it is pointless.
 

Sailor.X

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Not all Nuke armed Nations will surrender. Some just to spite the Space Marines might pull a Sampson let nukes fly all over their territory to deny the invaders any territorial gain.
 

Buba

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attrition against the Space Marines and bury them under mountains of corpses and shell them into oblivion.
Ongoing effort by Orkz and Spikiez since 30K ...
BTW - which militaries are capable of burying the Astartes under dead bodies? Which politicians are capable of giving such an order and being obeyed?
NORKS and some moslem crazies? Anybody else?
 
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ATP

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Let's assume that Doom Eagles and Silver Skulls chapters with a combined fleet of 2 battle barges, seven strike cruisers and 20ish rapid strike vessels appeared in our Solar System with 2000 Space Marines.

Assume they do their usual battle doctrines, etc...

How long will it take till all nations on Earth have capitulated and surrendered to Space Marines?

When they:
1.Land and massacre some good army
2.Let USA/whatever nukes hit them to show that it not hurt them
3.Nuked country which did so.

Maybe 24 hours for all that to happen?

What i would love to see their faces when they watch GW play and discover that all their secrets are open knowledge for us.
They would probably destroy Earth in that case
 

ATP

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The Drakka alt earth.

All like all kind of wanks,including evil dystopians - /and made myself few/,but in that case they really take over Earth thanks to raping puppies and impaling nuns.
Which is bullshit,becouse if raping and impaling gave victory alone,then Ottomans would rule Earth by now.
 

Buba

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Everybody is guilty of raping and impaling ...
But in this scenario, depending on version of WH40K lore, beakies may or not have rapey equipment. Hence impaling only is possible.
 
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ATP

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Everybody is guilty of raping and impaling ...
But in this scenario, depending on version of WH40K lore, beakies may or not have rapey equipment. Hence impaling only is possible.
I forget,that in WH40 everybody is doing that,too.So,no Drakian victory!
P.S except Tau.
 

Emperor Tippy

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Like two minutes?

The only realistic means that modern earth has of stopping even a single Astartes in combat is a tactical nuclear strike.

Any tech marine (likely any marine in their armor actually) would have the internet and the entire global telecommunications grid under their control in basically seconds.

Realistically speaking, a Battle barge showing up in orbit, performing a demonstration lance strike, and then demanding the planets surrender over the entire telecommunications grid would have Earth surrendered basically just as fast as the situation could be processed.
 

ATP

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As Space Commies they use "work to death" mostly?

Indeed.And it do not gave victory like impaling/raping everything by Drakians.
P.S If Drakian logic start working for WH40,Slaanesh would win,not Drakians.

So a couple of months? :p


Exactly.Big developed countries would capitulate quickly,but undeveloped one could fight for years,not moths.
And,becouse thanks to GW we would knew all IoM secrets,they would destroy Earth anyway.

P.S Since GW let WF fall to Chaos,they would be treated as Chaos cultist.Well,maybe they are Chaos cultists? :LOL:
 

The Original Sixth

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Like two minutes?

The only realistic means that modern earth has of stopping even a single Astartes in combat is a tactical nuclear strike.

Any tech marine (likely any marine in their armor actually) would have the internet and the entire global telecommunications grid under their control in basically seconds.

Realistically speaking, a Battle barge showing up in orbit, performing a demonstration lance strike, and then demanding the planets surrender over the entire telecommunications grid would have Earth surrendered basically just as fast as the situation could be processed.

No, I disagree.

It really comes down to how far the Space Marines are willing to go to take the planet. Using nuclear level firepower basically destroys the whole point of conquering a planet. The same reason we generally don't see other nations just blasting another nation into oblivion; the general goal is to obtain the people and economies, so nuking them is just pointless.

The Astartes lack the numbers and I would argue, the military sophistication to really take the planet. And threatening the entire planet at once is likely to ensure that you could potentially face not only tens of millions of troops, but not-inconsiderable nuclear arsenals. And there's really no way to ensure that they don't build more powerful nukes to blast through the shields.

I also sincerely doubt that a tech marine or even an entire chapter could really gain control of the internet without a great deal of struggle. First, we already know that a couple of nations like China, Egypt, and Russia have kill switches to the outside world. So trying to take over their internet is going to be entirely pointless. Second, a great deal of information can be cut off the internet, so it's not really going to serve them long-term, since the Earth powers would just change their strategy.

I think that, given their low numbers, the Astartes would be better off attacking a single nation and avoiding a large confrontation. Given the large technological disparity, they should choose a country that has great defensive geography, but is not terribly sophisticated technologically or has a good number of allies. My personal choice would be Iran; not many allies, the few allies it has been at odds with other allies, not terribly sophisticated technologically, lots of institutions that can be converted to the Astartes cause, a very religious society, and is geographically difficult to invade for other powers.

Doing this allows the Astartes the option of joining the table as one of the players on the planet, not as a threat that the whole world must face. This is a strategy that will take decades, if not a century or two, but has far greater chance of success to obtain what the Astartes actually want; people and their economies. The Astartes can coast on their technological advantages for some time at least. Iran has about 84 million people, which is a nice clean scoop of a population to put in the hands of the Astartes.

Best of all, the region around them is vacant of any real major power, save for Turkey to the north and a minor, but heavy punching Israel to the West. The Astartes can forge a new take on Islam with the local population, by essentially saying that the Emperor and Muhamad are the same. The warrior culture of the Astartes will do very well here and their advanced technology will give Iran a new lease on its pride, which basically wallows in the mud.

I still don't think that the Astartes can really dominate the world, because all the other powers are going to be struggling to obtain as many of their secrets as possible and I think they're likely to succeed. That said, the Astartes could probably take the former territory of the Ottoman Empire and become a lasting great power in the region. Maybe move into the declining Russian space and capture large swaths of land, but I expect that doing so would immediately draw action from Europe and the United States.
 

The Whispering Monk

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Teleportarium Chamber...scanners and Psykers to find exactly the right target locations...send Terminator squads to do what needs doing.

Pinpoint lance strikes to eliminate whatever weaponry any state controls that might threaten you.

There is nothing any state can do to them.

When they come down from on high, they can choose to be the 'Angels of Death'.

There will likely be attempts on the lives of the chapters' Astartes and support personnel. Some may succeed. It'll likely result in a purge of that person's family, clan and/or state.
 
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