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bintananth

behind a desk
The deserts of Cali are filled with the corpses of dealers who were bad at math
The two equations I shared upthread ... you basically need a B.Sc. with a Math minor to have any chance of solving either by hand.

H is the enthalpy of everything present. Solving the second one means calulating entropy. Good luck with that and may God have mercy on your soul because your slide rule won't.
 

Robovski

Well-known member
No, it doesn't.

J. Random Clerk has to know enough basic arithmetic to know how to make correct change and count the money in their drawer when it's time for them to go home towards the end of their shift.
The register makes the coin change. The systems do most of the work and when it doesn't people use the calculator app. The manager counts the register. Try again.
 

bintananth

behind a desk
The register makes the coin change. The systems do most of the work and when it doesn't people use the calculator app. The manager counts the register. Try again.
No, the register usually doesn't make the coin change, there's still the matter of getting the banknote total correct, and the manager is often just double checking the clerk's count for "fuck it, that's close enough" because "give-a-penny, take-a-penny" is a thing.
 

Robovski

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No, the register usually doesn't make the coin change, there's still the matter of getting the banknote total correct, and the manager is often just double checking the clerk's count for "fuck it, that's close enough" because "give-a-penny, take-a-penny" is a thing.
It isn't the 90's anymore. My experiences of colleagues in the 21st century come from working in retail banking and and with an equipment rental company. Spending an half hour explaining fractions to the 16th and what the difference between 3/8th and 7/16ths creates a lasting memory.

Just for fun, 1990 is further away than 2050.
 

Bear Ribs

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Most of the registers where I live at are automated self-checkouts anyway, I'm not sure how many retail clerks are out there or how long that job is for this world anyway. Certainly not an argument for people's math skills.
 

StormEagle

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No, it doesn't.

J. Random Clerk has to know enough basic arithmetic to know how to make correct change and count the money in their drawer when it's time for them to go home towards the end of their shift.

As a guy that works customer service, you’re wrong.

The registers are largely automated now. A number pops up on the screen telling the clerk exactly how much change the customer needs to be given. There’s no math involved here beyond the absolute most basic addition. The clerk doesn’t have to figure out shit in his head.

Same in the cash office. Almost every business has a cash scale. All the clerk has to do is place the money on the scale, and the math is done for him.

It’s not the early 2000’s anymore. Most of a clerks job, at least when involving the actual money, is calculated by the machine. All the clerk has to do is scan, bag, and ask cash or credit.
 

bintananth

behind a desk
Most of the registers where I live at are automated self-checkouts anyway, I'm not sure how many retail clerks are out there or how long that job is for this world anyway. Certainly not an argument for people's math skills.
Almost all of the ones at the places where I shop don't have those. Only one store has an automated change system and none of them have an automated self-checkout.
 

Doomsought

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As a guy that works customer service, you’re wrong.
You work at a big name store. The Barber shop and hole-in-the-wall pizza parlor I go to don't have all of those fancy gadgets.

Anyone who wants to make it in a small business needs to know their math. Also any sort of craftsman needs to do math when measuring their work and compensating for the effect of their tools.
 

StormEagle

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You work at a big name store. The Barber shop and hole-in-the-wall pizza parlor I go to don't have all of those fancy gadgets.

Anyone who wants to make it in a small business needs to know their math. Also any sort of craftsman needs to do math when measuring their work and compensating for the effect of their tools.

I’ve worked at a mom and pop grocery store, a local gas station convenience store chain, and a mid sized company. None of them are exactly what you’d call big name stores or well known.

All of them have had these systems.

There’s a difference between business owners and craftsmen (who I’d hope would know some level of math) and what we were talking about, which was the base level cashier.
 

bintananth

behind a desk
I’ve worked at a mom and pop grocery store, a local gas station convenience store chain, and a mid sized company. None of them are exactly what you’d call big name stores or well known.

All of them have had these systems.

There’s a difference between business owners and craftsmen (who I’d hope would know some level of math) and what we were talking about, which was the base level cashier.
The largest companies I've worked for never had more than 50 people. It's usually been less than 30. Stuff like a mom-and-pop retail store might have less than 10 with a "help wanted" sign taped to the door.
 

LordsFire

Internet Wizard
You work at a big name store. The Barber shop and hole-in-the-wall pizza parlor I go to don't have all of those fancy gadgets.

Anyone who wants to make it in a small business needs to know their math. Also any sort of craftsman needs to do math when measuring their work and compensating for the effect of their tools.

This is true for now, but it's getting easier and cheaper to get such fancy gadgets, and the general path such technology takes is that they start getting included in the 'base model' registers as standard after a while.

The largest companies I've worked for never had more than 50 people. It's usually been less than 30. Stuff like a mom-and-pop retail store might have less than 10 with a "help wanted" sign taped to the door.

There will always be some space for cashiers who do more than the bare minimum of work, for actual waiters/waitresses, etc.

The thing is, it's going to be more and more of a luxury service, and automated self-serve is increasingly the baseline. We're already seeing this with some fastfood places who have you order at a touch-screen kiosk instead of the register, and box stores like Walmart that now have more automated self-checkouts than traditional cash registers.

The role is never going to completely disappear, like the lift attendant, but unless we do away with crap like minimum wage laws, it'll probably become an increasingly rare thing offered only to those with disabilities and at luxury establishments.
 

Cherico

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Oh my god, I actually felt sick reading that.

This isn't just about the degenerating Kitchen Sink Community any more -- this is child grooming and predation to create their next generation.

At this point I'm not even angry any more just bemused and wondering what it will take for the grill bois and soccer moms to finally give a shit.

Will it be when their children are mass raped in class, multalated, murdered? Because I'm kind of left wondering what it will take for them to actually start caring.
 

Carrot of Truth

War is Peace
At this point I'm not even angry any more just bemused and wondering what it will take for the grill bois and soccer moms to finally give a shit.

Will it be when their children are mass raped in class, multalated, murdered? Because I'm kind of left wondering what it will take for them to actually start caring.

Most aren't even aware of it. Like the biggest problem is most people don't actually pay attention to much outside of their little lives, For most people all they care about is paying the bills going to work if their husband is fucking the nanny ect. Standing on the sidelines and yelling might get the attention of some of them but without a real leader I don't expect much to ever change.
 

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