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Gun Political Issues Megathread. (Control for or Against?)
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I'm sure the gun control angle will be that minors should not have access to guns at all, and there will be a push for requirements to keep them locked up at all times, and that parents should always be held responsible for stuff like this (contrast this with that supposed "mtf trans" person who rape/assaulted more than one girl in the bathroom and his mother blaming the victims), and I wouldn't even be surprised if there was another push to ban the scary black rifles even though the kid used a pistol, like most criminals.
Meanwhile hood rats continue to shoot up schools and playgrounds in their meaningless turf wars and no one so much as studies that Stat much less document it.
And the hood rats are then bailed out by Soros Inc. and his Cabalist friends.
I hope the pendulum swings around quickly, otherwise it's going to be a bloodbath when this storm breaks.
The longer the pause between earthquakes, the worse the earthquake will be.
Last time it resulted in Reagan's election and the time before that Nixon.
Before that you had shit like the battle of Athens over corrupt prosecutors and cops turning a blind eye to nonsense.
People forget that soccer mom's will ultimately vote for security over feel good bullshit
King Arts
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That website is annoying because they are calling the crazed killer by its preferred pronouns.Hah then this case is the liberal prosecutors wet dream. Thanks for clarifying..
This girl who thought she was a boy shot up a stem school in Colorado I think and she was stopped by this fat Mexican American kid who basically sat on her after eating a bullet and saved everyone.
Naturally she was groomed by an older boy who was also into that weird nonsense and worshipped the devil.
The Judge ordered most of the trial proceedings sealed (though that could have been because she was a minor)and there was a huge effort to memory hole it because she's a troon and we can't have facts that break the narrative about how precious, non violent and non predatory those people are.
Transgender teen sentenced to life in prison for deadly Colorado school shooting
A Colorado transgender teenager who admitted to taking part in a shooting at a Denver-area charter school last year that left one student dead and eight others wounded was sentenced on Friday to life in prison plus an additional 38 years.www.reuters.com
Anyway I’m more interested in the satanism thing it wasn’t mentioned in the article.
Funny, they went out of their way to talk about how she worshipped the devil to avoid talking about the very real possibility that transitioning was the cause of the shooting.
History Learner
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Unabashedly Pro-2nd Amendment, and looking forward to hopefully adding an M1 Garand to my collection within the next year.
Looks like the popular media wants to ban wholesome family pictures if they take place within the same month as a shooting despite no apparent connection between the two.
nypost.com
U.S. congressman posts family Christmas picture with guns, days after school shooting
A U.S. congressman posted a Christmas picture of himself and what appeared to be his family, smiling and posing with an assortment of guns, just days after the Oxford High School shooting.
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ParadiseLost
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Even Satanists get thrown under the bus by Liberals!
King Arts
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Liberals are effectively satanist.
This is fucking rediculous.Looks like the popular media wants to ban wholesome family pictures if they take place within the same month as a shooting despite no lack of connection between the two.
U.S. congressman posts family Christmas picture with guns, days after school shooting
A U.S. congressman posted a Christmas picture of himself and what appeared to be his family, smiling and posing with an assortment of guns, just days after the Oxford High School shooting.
Not being able to share family photos because of completely unrelated fucktardery is a new low.
prinCZess
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This is a disgusting display. A visual 'fuck you' to a long-suffering American populace. I don't care what spirit it was done in, it's insulting and evil in ways that Thomas Massie should understand and apologize for.Looks like the popular media wants to ban wholesome family pictures if they take place within the same month as a shooting despite no apparent connection between the two.
U.S. congressman posts family Christmas picture with guns, days after school shooting
A U.S. congressman posted a Christmas picture of himself and what appeared to be his family, smiling and posing with an assortment of guns, just days after the Oxford High School shooting.
Semi-automatic M60s are something no American family should ever see or include in holiday cards.
Should be proper, belt-fed automatics.
I mean it is a simple....change that I am sure cam be done
They didn't know he was planning anything and they didn't buy him a gun, this is just them being absurdly over-charged because of politics (much like how the kid was formally charged with terrorism despite there being no evidence of any motive or goal in mind aside from "shoot people").
I can't find the actual charging document online, so I'm going off of media reports. The charges here boil down to two general categories, either missing warning signs or failing to secure the couple's firearm.
Some sources claim the gun was a gift for the kid, but that seems to be the DA's account, which I do not trust. But, if it was for him, Michigan does appear to allow minors to use firearms, they cannot own them but you can give a kid a gun at the range or whatever and let him shoot, so them buying a gun their son can use was not illegal.
Nor was failing to secure it properly illegal in the state, if that was what happened (there is again dispute on this point). It might have been irresponsible, but I'm the opinion that safe storage laws are only useful for securing things against young children accidentally getting them, not against intentional theft. I knew where my parents kept important stuff, what sorts of passwords they use, etc, if I wanted to steal it I absolutely could have. I doubt it was any different in the Crumbly home.
Furthermore, neither of those actions trigger any liability under manslaughter or negligent homicide or aiding and abetting. You have to specifically take actions that you know will or are intended to aid the commission of crime, which didn't happen here.
The second grouping are missing warning signs, and they cite two incidents here.
The day before the shooting, the kid looked up guns and ammunition on a school computer. That means nothing, shooting or no shooting, it might not have even been related to his decision to carry out the shooting, and even in light of later events it doesn't seem like it should have impacted anyone's decision.
The second incident was the day of the shooting, when the kid was caught making some violent drawings in class and his parents were calling in to discuss this with him and with the school staff, and the parents were told to place him in counseling, which they may or may not have agreed to do, but he parents also wanted him to go back to school normally. That's understandable, based on the information they had there was no reason to conclude that not only was he planning on violence that very day, but that he in fact already had the gun with him. It's entirely reasonable to look at the drawings and say "this is clearly a problem, and we will take steps to address it, we're going to make an appointment with a professional" and believe you've caught the problem early.
For that matter, the information they have at hand doesn't even point to a schooling shooting in anything but hindsight. The drawing is described as
That sounds a lot more sucidal than homicidal to me, and even it was more of a 50/50 shot, what parent is going to conclude that means their son is on the verge of doing the unthinkable?
The DA also said that the parents failed to ask if he had a weapon and failed to search his backpack. They had no legal obligation to do either of those things and, in my view, no reason to think doing so was needed, that's just the DA trying to spin "could have stopped this" into "is therefore at fault for not stopping it", which is not how the law works.
EDIT: Oh, and if failing to search his backpack was something so negligent that it becomes a legal issue, the school officials should also have been charged, as they also had the right to search the kid's backpack and locker and failed to do so. The fact the DA only complained that the parents failed to do that seals the deal as far proving this is political.
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bintananth
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It's entirely possible that a Congressman might not have the financial means or the connections necessary to get one that's "civie legal" for personal use.
This might have held up if they hadn't ran and forced the cops to do a manhunt.
After that, really hard to play the 'we didn't know' card successfully.
To my knowledge they only ran after the DA charged them, not before, and they knew the charges when they ran. I can't explain their decision, but I can't see as having been motivated by "oh no, they found the thing that proves we knew, we gotta get out of here" since the DA doesn't have any such evidence.
I thought they ran before the charges were officially filed, and did so rather fast after the shooting itself.