United States George Floyd Protests, Reactions and Riots

Arch Dornan

Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
Democrats are now gonna try and force a bill to reduce Trump's power to use the Insurrection Act.


I wonder how exactly they plan on passing this.
What happens when it'll be a suceeding Democrat president who needs to use it and their own bill fucked them over?
 

Arch Dornan

Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
Bold of you to assume.
It's in the future after the party reshuffles again. Or they collapse and a new party takes their place.

One theory I found was the man who died worked with the cop in a club before. His wife found out he had a porn career so she went for some BBC and his rough treatment could have played a part.
 

Bacle

When the effort is no longer profitable...
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No, you're going with 'the left are the real racist' bollocks. They're not. They're just moral cowards that hate their own race. They don't hate the black man, they just like having their own self imposed guilt soothed. The 'actual white supremacists' and ethnonationalists like me don't want to be around them. I'd happily hand over the Falklands, or some other piece of shit territory that we still have to blacks, and get them out of my fucking country. If they want to bitch and whine and complain that they suffer in one of the most prosperous nations on earth because we have the gall to hold them to the same standards that we hold our own citizens then can fuck off and found their own nations.

Bacle is 100% right, I do not like Black people as an ethnic group, as a proportion of the population they are more violent, they are less educated, and they are a tax burden on the nation. They also seem to think the world owes them a favour when the reality is that they should be grateful my ancestors didn't cut their balls off when they took them like the Arabs did. Black people in the west live a state of sheltered, privileged existence paid for by white peoples taxes.

'No you're a racist' Great comeback. Yeah, I am a racist. I can in fact recognize patterns.
They commit more crime than the native population, everywhere they go. They earn less than the natives everywhere they go, they score lower on education than the natives everywhere they go. They do not integrate, they ghettoize, they vote and act and seem to fucking think as a racial group wherever they go.

What exactly is incorrect in my statement? Do blacks statistically commit a proportional amount of crime for their population in the UK? In America? In Sweden? In France? Or do they commit more? Are their levels of literacy, and overall education lower than the average? Are they a tax burden on a tax benefit? What exactly do they bring to the table besides criminality and cost?

Or do you just not like what I've said because it's uncomfortable. Fourteen thousand girls - likely more but these are the ones we know about - have been systematically raped with the help - and in some cases such as Amjad Ditta the participation - of our 'ethnically aware' police force in the UK as a result of bringing in pakistani migrants, I imagine they'd have been pretty uncomfortable. Non white communities in white nations do nothing but relentlessly victimise not only each other, but everyone around them as well both in direct criminality, and in the way they leech off of the systems that support them. But the moral cowards in our media and our government do little but talk about how 'we' need to come together from their gated communities. I grew up in a mixed community and all that is taught me was that my own kind were the only kind I can trust to behave in a manner that I'd find acceptable. I'll stop being a racist when England is populated by the English, not being invaded by the diaspora of the worlds slums.

EDIT: Wait, wait wait. I've terribly mischaracterised a community here and I aplogise for that. It wasn't fourteen thousand girls systematically raped, beaten, mutilated and sexually enslaved with the silence in some cases support of our police (and politicians, where the equalities minister a pakistani woman told the girls to shut up for diversities sakes). It was 18'700. How silly of me.
Well thank you for being honest about being a racist scumbag; now I can put you on Ignore and not feel I'm missing anything.
 

GoldRanger

May the power protect you
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Maybe if fewer ethno-nationalists and white supremacists (of both the open and closed variety) stained our nation with thier presense, black people wouldn't feel they need to go to these lengths to be heard and media wouldn't be doing this.

All these problems right now come down to one issue; white supremacists are still a cancer on our nation, even if we thought we were in remission. White supremacists make life difficult for non-racist/non-ethno-nationalist white people and minorities; never forget the KKK hated Catholics as much as blacks. People wonder why folks want Condeferate and slavery reminders in the south moved to museums, instead of left in the open; it's not that hard to figure out why things like that appeal as ways to show change.
I understand your position, but come on, Bacle. Are white supremacist a huge issue outside of 4chan and the like? How many white supremacists truly exist in the US? Are they powerful? Influential? I always fel like they were mostly a left-wing bogeyman and in reality they were just a tiny handful of annoying troublemakers one could aafely ignore and laugh at.
 

Bacle

When the effort is no longer profitable...
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I understand your position, but come on, Bacle. Are white supremacist a huge issue outside of 4chan and the like? How many white supremacists truly exist in the US? Are they powerful? Influential? I always fel like they were mostly a left-wing bogeyman and in reality they were just a tiny handful of annoying troublemakers one could aafely ignore and laugh at.
I have lived next to one for over twenty years, without knowing it, and only know now because he thought me becoming more conservative meant I shared his ideals.

His son told me that his sister dating a black man would have never flown, and 'Why is white rice the best rice? Because it's white.' has come directly out of his mouth. He has an obsession with Nordic/Estonian/Lithuanian pride, graduated in the same Yale class as Dubya, and is part of the CO GOP elections organization.

So yeah, I think hidden racism in the US is absolutely a problem, one I am having to confront among people I've known for decades. I am getting yelled at on FB for not being 'woke' enough by people I have long respected, while here I have to fight back against the racist cancer on the right.

So I'm done being civil with anyone I have good reason to believe is another racist or ethno-nationalist, and do think it is a bigger problem than many here want to believe.
 

Airedale260

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I don't see much of a problem with Hong-Kongers though. They are from a fairly well developed country, and you'd be saving them from the encroaching fascist dictatorships that's about to swallow their country.

Hong Kong is the prototypical rags to riches story and one every free marketer points to as the idealized version of laissez faire capitalism. Yes, it has its labor issues, but those are, as I understand it, pretty uncommon for the most part. The government enforces basic regulations to prevent the shady aspects or at least curtail them as much as possible, and otherwise let the locals do their thing, just as Cowperthwaite envisioned
 

Arch Dornan

Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
I have lived next to one for over twenty years, without knowing it, and only know now because he thought me becoming more conservative meant I shared his ideals.

His son told me that his sister dating a black man would have never flown, and 'Why is white rice the best rice? Because it's white.' has come directly out of his mouth. He has an obsession with Nordic/Estonian/Lithuanian pride, graduated in the same Yale class as Dubya, and is part of the CO GOP elections organization.

So yeah, I think hidden racism in the US is absolutely a problem, one I am having to confront among people I've known for decades. I am getting yelled at on FB for not being 'woke' enough by people I have long respected, while here I have to fight back against the racist cancer on the right.

So I'm done being civil with anyone I have good reason to believe is another racist or ethno-nationalist, and do think it is a bigger problem than many here want to believe.
Hidden racism will always be there.

We develop prejudices to each other for simply being different or being affected by someone in a negative way.
 

Urabrask Revealed

Let them go.
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Democrats are now gonna try and force a bill to reduce Trump's power to use the Insurrection Act.


I wonder how exactly they plan on passing this.
By shrieking and throwing feces at the cuck-part of the Republicans until they cave like simps.

What happens when it'll be a suceeding Democrat president who needs to use it and their own bill fucked them over?
Pffffff! As if the demofilth will give a shit if their president ignores the rules they themselves put in.
It's a milstone for the republicans to carry and deride for.
 

GoldRanger

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I have lived next to one for over twenty years, without knowing it, and only know now because he thought me becoming more conservative meant I shared his ideals.

His son told me that his sister dating a black man would have never flown, and 'Why is white rice the best rice? Because it's white.' has come directly out of his mouth. He has an obsession with Nordic/Estonian/Lithuanian pride, graduated in the same Yale class as Dubya, and is part of the CO GOP elections organization.

So yeah, I think hidden racism in the US is absolutely a problem, one I am having to confront among people I've known for decades. I am getting yelled at on FB for not being 'woke' enough by people I have long respected, while here I have to fight back against the racist cancer on the right.

So I'm done being civil with anyone I have good reason to believe is another racist or ethno-nationalist, and do think it is a bigger problem than many here want to believe.

I've also had my moments on dissillusionment. I was a member of an anti SJW subreddit that often posted the usual anti-white racist crap you see on Tumblr, to mock it of course. Then members started saying how it's all the "marxist Jews" were pushing a "Zionist agenda", and the "Jewish bankers" were behind the SJW movement. So I quit the group immediately. These things happen. Does my or your experience represent the majority of white Americans? No, I don't believe so. You had a bad experience with a couple of racist guys, I think nobody in his right mind would condone something like that, but is it some kind of huge movement that causes racial tensions in the US? I doubt it. It's unpleasant, but I don't think it's a "strategic threat", let's call it, and it's certainly not any different than "lol white people are stoopid" mentality that has seeped into mainstream culture in recent years. Hey, I'm not American and never even been in America, maybe I just have a wrong impression and I'm wrong. I don't think so, though.

In the end, I blame the progressive left. They are a cult in the truest, most literal definition of the word, and they're dragging the rest of the world's advanced and enlightened countries with them.
 

MelancholicMechanicus

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Bacle

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We develop prejudices to each other for simply being different
This kind of thinking is simply false, when it comes to racial issues. It is part of why racism is still a problem.
I've also had my moments on dissillusionment. I was a member of an anti SJW subreddit that often posted the usual anti-white racist crap you see on Tumblr, to mock it of course. Then members started saying how it's all the "marxist Jews" were pushing a "Zionist agenda", and the "Jewish bankers" were behind the SJW movement. So I quit the group immediately. These things happen. Does my or your experience represent the majority of white Americans? No, I don't believe so. You had a bad experience with a couple of racist guys, I think nobody in his right mind would condone something like that, but is it some kind of huge movement that causes racial tensions in the US? I doubt it. It's unpleasant, but I don't think it's a "strategic threat", let's call it, and it's certainly not any different than "lol white people are stoopid" mentality that has seeped into mainstream culture in recent years. Hey, I'm not American and never even been in America, maybe I just have a wrong impression and I'm wrong. I don't think so, though.

In the end, I blame the progressive left. They are a cult in the truest, most literal definition of the word, and they're dragging the rest of the world's advanced and enlightened countries with them.
It's harder when this is someone who you've seen almost as a second father and as one of the conservatives to be held up as an example.

Disentangling myself from him and his family is not something I can do easily or simply, because it's not just me that it would affect. I would more or less have to uproot the family and force us to cut a massive amount of social ties to get them out of our lives.
The D.C. Mayor has gone one step further on her plans and kicked the National Guard from the hotels they were staying in.


How classy
Time for Trump to go Mario on Bowser.
 

Lanmandragon

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Once again I would like to note that when you remove the children of single mothers the discrepancy between black and white crime rates vanishes. If you want to help the black community you have to restore the respect, authority and position of black fathers.
Not just us either but in general. Reempower fathers and watch most of this vanish in a generation.
 

Terthna

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No, you're going with 'the left are the real racist' bollocks. They're not. They're just moral cowards that hate their own race. They don't hate the black man, they just like having their own self imposed guilt soothed. The 'actual white supremacists' and ethnonationalists like me don't want to be around them. I'd happily hand over the Falklands, or some other piece of shit territory that we still have to blacks, and get them out of my fucking country. If they want to bitch and whine and complain that they suffer in one of the most prosperous nations on earth because we have the gall to hold them to the same standards that we hold our own citizens then can fuck off and found their own nations.

Bacle is 100% right, I do not like Black people as an ethnic group, as a proportion of the population they are more violent, they are less educated, and they are a tax burden on the nation. They also seem to think the world owes them a favour when the reality is that they should be grateful my ancestors didn't cut their balls off when they took them like the Arabs did. Black people in the west live a state of sheltered, privileged existence paid for by white peoples taxes.
I stand corrected; I apologize for making assumptions. Still, I firmly contend that the "self imposed guilt" you describe? Is rooted in racism; specifically, benevolent racism. Basically it's the idea that white people have a duty to other races, because we're better than them, as we have "white privilege".

As for black people being more violent as a proportion of the population; all of that is caused by things the benevolently racist regressive left has done to try and "help" them. Things like establishing financial incentives for single-mother households, which deprives black children of having any meaningful relationship with their fathers; something that is directly linked to an increase in criminal activity. Or telling them that the world owes them a favor, which is what the regressive left does to indoctrinate them into their ideology.

Thing is; you're blaming the blacks for something that was done to them. Getting rid of them wouldn't solve the problem, because it's one caused by an ideology, not a race.
 

GoldRanger

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Disentangling myself from him and his family is not something I can do easily or simply, because it's not just me that it would affect. I would more or less have to uproot the family and force us to cut a massive amount of social ties to get them out of our lives.

I'm not saying that you absolutely must disengage with this person. I'm asking you whether you think this person definitely represents the average American.

This is what I think. In the Western world (we'll leave third world countries aside, because rampant racism on all sides is an everyday phenomenon in most of these places, due to various cultural factors) most people are not racist and just want to get along. The average person (again, in the west) just wants to live his live and will honestly not mind contact with a person from a different race, whether a conversation, friendship, "even" romantic entanglement. Now, we ARE influenced by all sorts of prejudice. Personally, I don't believe on an instinctual level, that there's one person on this Earth that is 100% free of prejudice of some sort, toward some kind of broad group. One single negative experience, even a secondhand one, is enough to form some sort of prejudice against a broad group that includes the person relevant to that experience. That's just how the human mind works (yes, even the vaunted progressive intersectional mind). If somebody was bullied by a black person, then he develops at least a modicum of resentment (racism) against black people. If someone got screwed over by a Jewish banker on a loan, he would develop at least a modicum of prejudice against Jews. If someone was beaten unjustly by a cop, he would develop prejudice against cops. It's human nature that I don't think any person is exempt from. Certainly not myself, I've said my share of racist shit that I've regretted after the fact in my life. The question is whether a person is aware of these prejudices, and understands that he must work to reject them and that they're not actual reality, or does he embrace them and builds an entire racist ideology around them (Nazism, BLM).

I don't know anything about the person you're talking about and your relationship with him, so please don't take my questions the wrong way. I'm NOT trying to dismiss or minimize his errors and atrocities. I still want to ask: how racist is he? Would he, for example, support revoking voting rights for black people? Does he believe black people are inherently inferior? I understand that he told inappropriate racist jokes at the very least, but does it mean he's through and through racist, or was he being an asshole and is not proud of what he said in hindsight? Again, I'm not trying to minimize what he said, ideally nobody would demean anyone because of race, gender or sexual orientation. My question is essentially this: do you honestly think his sort of racism, if we assume that most Americans are like him, is an issue that justifies the existence of Black Lives Matter, justifies calling ALL white people scumbag racists, justifies the rampant rioting going on today, justifies affirmative action, justifies demanding reparations for the sins of great-grandparents? It's an honest question, even though yes, I'm aware it probably comes off as leading. I believe that the answer should be "no", but I genuinely open for changing my mind on this issue.

In my ideal society, skin color should be treated like hair or eye color. Just a random thing that's there, nothing more. If a person has a racist outburst or emotion some time, if they apologize and never actually act on it, they should be forgiven. Any ideology that demonizes people based on race should be crushed mercilessly in this world, because it threatens peace and coexistence (this includes black supremacism too).

These are my thoughts and beliefs, for better or worst. Maybe I'm also a racist, I don't know. I'm just trying my best here.
 

Duke Nukem

Hail to the king baby
I'm not saying that you absolutely must disengage with this person. I'm asking you whether you think this person definitely represents the average American.

This is what I think. In the Western world (we'll leave third world countries aside, because rampant racism on all sides is an everyday phenomenon in most of these places, due to various cultural factors) most people are not racist and just want to get along. The average person (again, in the west) just wants to live his live and will honestly not mind contact with a person from a different race, whether a conversation, friendship, "even" romantic entanglement. Now, we ARE influenced by all sorts of prejudice. Personally, I don't believe on an instinctual level, that there's one person on this Earth that is 100% free of prejudice of some sort, toward some kind of broad group. One single negative experience, even a secondhand one, is enough to form some sort of prejudice against a broad group that includes the person relevant to that experience. That's just how the human mind works (yes, even the vaunted progressive intersectional mind). If somebody was bullied by a black person, then he develops at least a modicum of resentment (racism) against black people. If someone got screwed over by a Jewish banker on a loan, he would develop at least a modicum of prejudice against Jews. If someone was beaten unjustly by a cop, he would develop prejudice against cops. It's human nature that I don't think any person is exempt from. Certainly not myself, I've said my share of racist shit that I've regretted after the fact in my life. The question is whether a person is aware of these prejudices, and understands that he must work to reject them and that they're not actual reality, or does he embrace them and builds an entire racist ideology around them (Nazism, BLM).

I don't know anything about the person you're talking about and your relationship with him, so please don't take my questions the wrong way. I'm NOT trying to dismiss or minimize his errors and atrocities. I still want to ask: how racist is he? Would he, for example, support revoking voting rights for black people? Does he believe black people are inherently inferior? I understand that he told inappropriate racist jokes at the very least, but does it mean he's through and through racist, or was he being an asshole and is not proud of what he said in hindsight? Again, I'm not trying to minimize what he said, ideally nobody would demean anyone because of race, gender or sexual orientation. My question is essentially this: do you honestly think his sort of racism, if we assume that most Americans are like him, is an issue that justifies the existence of Black Lives Matter, justifies calling ALL white people scumbag racists, justifies the rampant rioting going on today, justifies affirmative action, justifies demanding reparations for the sins of great-grandparents? It's an honest question, even though yes, I'm aware it probably comes off as leading. I believe that the answer should be "no", but I genuinely open for changing my mind on this issue.

In my ideal society, skin color should be treated like hair or eye color. Just a random thing that's there, nothing more. If a person has a racist outburst or emotion some time, if they apologize and never actually act on it, they should be forgiven. Any ideology that demonizes people based on race should be crushed mercilessly in this world, because it threatens peace and coexistence (this includes black supremacism too).

These are my thoughts and beliefs, for better or worst. Maybe I'm also a racist, I don't know. I'm just trying my best here.
i Agree, Racism against Whites,blacks,asians,etc is pure foolishness.
 

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