United States George Floyd Protests, Reactions and Riots

Zachowon

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It wasn't operative for the Warrant.

They could and should have included that evidence when asking for the warrant, but they did not do so. Thus the warrant is not legally valid. That is what matters if we are to have rule of law.
It is Legal, if the judge deems the evidence is enough and signs a warrant it is legal.
 

Knowledgeispower

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It is Legal, if the judge deems the evidence is enough and signs a warrant it is legal.
Mind you whether or not we have a problem of judges signing off on warrants in an almost automatic fashion far too often is a whole other question
 

CarlManvers2019

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Or call it a fake quote Lmao.

To begin with, I don’t think many ever read or knew that Karl Marx was an anti-semite and racist towards Native Americans, South Americans and those of African descent and even wrote a book about Jews

Can’t expect them to have actually even read or really known about the lives and beliefs of the people they decided would defend them if they were around today

Because I can honestly bet the Founding Fathers and Thomas Jefferson and many of the other Republican politicians wouldn’t do a “party switch” if they were suddenly transported to modern day as they’d be too busy puking their guts out at all the ugly “ladies” around
 

Duke Nukem

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To begin with, I don’t think many ever read or knew that Karl Marx was an anti-semite and racist towards Native Americans, South Americans and those of African descent and even wrote a book about Jews

Can’t expect them to have actually even read or really known about the lives and beliefs of the people they decided would defend them if they were around today

Because I can honestly bet the Founding Fathers and Thomas Jefferson and many of the other Republican politicians wouldn’t do a “party switch” if they were suddenly transported to modern day as they’d be too busy puking their guts out at all the ugly “ladies” around

They also don't realize that the communist countries they idolize so much would have lined them up against a wall .
 

Doomsought

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It is Legal, if the judge deems the evidence is enough and signs a warrant it is legal.
Decision of a Judge does not make something legal or not, only acts of legislature do so. As this is a directive from the 4th amendment of the constitution, only an amendment to the constitution could make it legal.
 

Hlaalu Agent

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They had evidence, recorded phone calls, that there were drug dealers, or drug paraphernalia in that house!

The cops hat want to do something also want to get paid.
It is a choice, food ad getting to see ones family again, or standing there and getting beaten and maybe killed, without your city payig you to do it.

That is absolutely no excuse for their action at all. They are making a choice to tyrannize their fellow citizens, to falsely deprive them of their liberty. To further victimize people who have been victimized. They are choosing to do evil, they are moral cowards, and so thusly they can get fucked.
 

Zachowon

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That is absolutely no excuse for their action at all. They are making a choice to tyrannize their fellow citizens, to falsely deprive them of their liberty. To further victimize people who have been victimized. They are choosing to do evil, they are moral cowards, and so thusly they can get fucked.
So you are saying they should go out there to end up in the hospital at best and dead at worse...and without the backing of their city and the like, who pay their checks ending up like that may just make their family worse off...
and my post was to why officers are allowing people to be chased down by vehicles
 

Hlaalu Agent

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So you are saying they should go out there to end up in the hospital at best and dead at worse...and without the backing of their city and the like, who pay their checks ending up like that may just make their family worse off...
and my post was to why officers are allowing people to be chased down by vehicles

I am saying they should do their actual job which is serve the public and not be political enforcers, and of course shouldn't blatantly stage false arrests of innocent people. And what of the families of the people they allow to be targeted or they falsely arrest? I guess they don't matter at all.
 

CarlManvers2019

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So you are saying they should go out there to end up in the hospital at best and dead at worse...and without the backing of their city and the like, who pay their checks ending up like that may just make their family worse off...
and my post was to why officers are allowing people to be chased down by vehicles
I am saying they should do their actual job which is serve the public and not be political enforcers, and of course shouldn't blatantly stage false arrests of innocent people. And what of the families of the people they allow to be targeted or they falsely arrest? I guess they don't matter at all.

I get both your points, simply put it's a hard decision, especially harder when your family would get affected if you don't comply

I'm not saying what those officers are doing is right or necessarily the best decision that can be made, though least they got, but they're doing this because even their families now in a way have a gun to their heads

It's not exactly something they teach you in theological studies or christian learning education as it was named in my school, but love isn't unlimited....there will be people you care about more than others and that's why people end up having to do things they hate doing deep down

That said, those being arrested in a VERY biased court system won't be caring so much about the reasons why the police are unjustly arresting them, because its not them who'll end up in jail for who knows how long and possibly have the rest of their lives and possibly even of those of their friends and families put in danger as well

Man.....I think they now have a reason to forestall defunding the police....they need guys more capable when it comes to putting a stop to the populace, thankfully I doubt they can command the armed forces and hold their families and their livelihoods against them
 

Zachowon

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I am saying they should do their actual job which is serve the public and not be political enforcers, and of course shouldn't blatantly stage false arrests of innocent people. And what of the families of the people they allow to be targeted or they falsely arrest? I guess they don't matter at all.
I am not talking about the officers doing the false arrests or the oes taking peoples weapons. I was talking about people wondering why the cops aren't stopping the riots and stuff.
So you are saying if you were a cop, you would risk losing your pension, healthcare, pay check, possible medical bills should you be injured, or even your death and any money your family could receive?
Also add in you will most likely be losing the amount you already make, so....
Put this into perspective
 

Hlaalu Agent

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I am not talking about the officers doing the false arrests or the oes taking peoples weapons. I was talking about people wondering why the cops aren't stopping the riots and stuff.
So you are saying if you were a cop, you would risk losing your pension, healthcare, pay check, possible medical bills should you be injured, or even your death and any money your family could receive?
Also add in you will most likely be losing the amount you already make, so....
Put this into perspective

You mean the jackboots who have murdered good Canadians and Americans before? They can get double fucked.
 

Zachowon

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You mean the jackboots who have murdered good Canadians and Americans before? They can get double fucked.
I am talking about the police officers shot, killed and beaten trying to stop these riots, the officers getting trapped in their house, shot in their own patrol cars!
These officers not showing up to the riots are doing so because it makes sure they get to see another day with their families, as they wont have help should they do it
 

CarlManvers2019

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I am talking about the police officers shot, killed and beaten trying to stop these riots, the officers getting trapped in their house, shot in their own patrol cars!
These officers not showing up to the riots are doing so because it makes sure they get to see another day with their families, as they wont have help should they do it

And given that the city government and so many Far Left types will desecrate their deaths and insult their families, I can understand why they won’t stop them, also because they’re not allowed to do so

That said, maybe they shouldn’t stop people from defending themselves too, unfortunately city and state government will force them to
 

Hlaalu Agent

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I am talking about the police officers shot, killed and beaten trying to stop these riots, the officers getting trapped in their house, shot in their own patrol cars!
These officers not showing up to the riots are doing so because it makes sure they get to see another day with their families, as they wont have help should they do it

Ah misread it. Well, they can keep it up, the chickens will come home to roost soon. They'll soon end up in the exact same situations of those they refused to protect, and they'll be equally unprotected. So really why should I get worked up too much?

Classic story, people refuse to help others in their time of need, and when it is their time...there isn't anyone there to protect them.
 

Zachowon

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Ah misread it. Well, they can keep it up, the chickens will come home to roost soon. They'll soon end up in the exact same situations of those they refused to protect, and they'll be equally unprotected. So really why should I get worked up too much?

Classic story, people refuse to help others in their time of need, and when it is their time...there isn't anyone there to protect them.
basically, either a cop does their job and then less cops go out as more get injured or killed, or they don't (well be told not too) and go on to work another day and not have to worry about the life as they know that should trump win they will have help
 

CarlManvers2019

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basically, either a cop does their job and then less cops go out as more get injured or killed, or they don't (well be told not too) and go on to work another day and not have to worry about the life as they know that should trump win they will have help

Still have to deal with them being made to arrest those defending themselves
 

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