United States George Floyd Protests, Reactions and Riots

Largo

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I will say that I find many of you are over eager for Trump to break out the big guns. I do think it's necessary to some extent. I have strong libertarian tendencies, but the state must show that it is the biggest dog in the game and that messing with law and order is a Very Bad Idea for rioters.

Yet at the same time, it is very important to draw a distinction and make clear that most protesters want real, necessary reform and that we're dealing with a minority of the protesters. There needs to be a carrot and stick approach, with the carrot being promised reforms for the police. While the federal government's ability to reform the police is limited, Trump should be meeting with Congressional leaders to figure out what can be done. A crackdown can be accepted, but it should not be celebrated.
 

Zachowon

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I am confused that you consider TMZ to be a reliable source of information especially since you're part of the IC and work with the government. You know what, I'm just gonna drop this because I don't want to shitup the thread with stupid crap.
Because whe I can not legally do anything on US persons I find it fun when a gossip paper is accurate in most ccases.
 

Abhorsen

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Saw a retweet of this account and grew confused. Didn't this guy get ran off the internet years ago for promising to make a documentary that would "expose" Sarkeesian and not delivering?


I don't like vandalism and rioting. But if a people were to vandalize something, I don't really care much that it happened to the Daughters of the Confederacy. For a long while, they were basically the female arm of the KKK. In 1913, the UDC endorsed the KKK. Publically. This hasn't really changed since. They are still a bunch of Lost Causers and slavery apologists. As late as 2018, they had this on their website:
Slaves, for the most part, were faithful and devoted. Most slaves were usually ready and willing to serve their masters.
Sucks about the lost history, but couldn't have happened to a worse group.
I am confused that you consider TMZ to be a reliable source of information especially since you're part of the IC and work with the government. You know what, I'm just gonna drop this because I don't want to shitup the thread with stupid crap.
They are actually pretty reliable. They just tend to report stuff about shit that doesn't matter.
 

Floridaman

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I will say that I find many of you are over eager for Trump to break out the big guns. I do think it's necessary to some extent. I have strong libertarian tendencies, but the state must show that it is the biggest dog in the game and that messing with law and order is a Very Bad Idea for rioters.

Yet at the same time, it is very important to draw a distinction and make clear that most protesters want real, necessary reform and that we're dealing with a minority of the protesters. There needs to be a carrot and stick approach, with the carrot being promised reforms for the police. While the federal government's ability to reform the police is limited, Trump should be meeting with Congressional leaders to figure out what can be done. A crackdown can be accepted, but it should not be celebrated.
As someone whose been able to see the fire, and had a rioter try to break my window, forgive me for being excited that soon I might be able to sleep before 3 AM because I don’t know if tonight is the night they decide to either torch my home, or loot it.
 

Arch Dornan

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You are mistaken. I have been around for a long time. I remember seeing the Vietnam protests when I was still a little boy. This ain't nothing and will be quelled by the National Guard and if necessary the Active Duty Military. Antifa leaders will be dragged into courts in chains. And the truth about who is behind the chaos will be exposed. The US is a Superpower for a reason you know.
I know it's a superpower but your country is already full of people who would cripple it with their political authority and that is why I'm losing faith in stabilisation.

When there's already people like Bacle's experience that he had to cut ties with there's something bad coming. All this double think when you know someone who gets concerned about the riots when they're affected but still support it wholeheartedly.
 

Sailor.X

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I am for a targeted and tactical response. We pretty much know (Thanks to people being stupid enough to post what they do on Social Media) who the malfactors are. We need to use Federal Assets to apprehend them. And expose them to the entire Nation. Any Foreign actors at play in this captured and dragged into court in chains (With Sanctions to any country involved) and the streets under curfew until peace is restored. I would rather this be done without a lot of bloodshed. Those of us who have seen people die first hand are not wanting to go to lethal force if we can help it. Seeing someone die sticks with you and you will never unsee that sight.

In a lighter related note. SB is going mental about Trumps speech.
 

Arch Dornan

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Really, I think people should be more upset about the other sorts of vandalism and looting of historic sites. I saw a picture of a statue of David Farragut being graffitied, a man who did more for blacks than any of those protesters today.

Lincoln didn't wage a war to free slaves and get this treatment damnit.
 

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They’d better.


I think I’ve made it abundantly clear that I’m anti-rioters here and elsewhere.

Also, if Independence Hall was burned down, I imagine there’d be a pretty big pool of vengeful suspects. I’d have quite the line to get behind.

Doubt they’d target it, not when you have a massive local and federal law enforcement presence nearby. Graffiti it, maybe, but I doubt burn it.
 

Arch Dornan

Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
I am for a targeted and tactical response. We pretty much know (Thanks to people being stupid enough to post what they do on Social Media) who the malfactors are. We need to use Federal Assets to apprehend them. And expose them to the entire Nation. Any Foreign actors at play in this captured and dragged into court in chains (With Sanctions to any country involved) and the streets under curfew until peace is restored. I would rather this be done without a lot of bloodshed. Those of us who have seen people die first hand are not wanting to go to lethal force if we can help it. Seeing someone die sticks with you and you will never unsee that sight.

In a lighter related note. SB is going mental about Trumps speech.
As bloodthirsty as I sometimes express myself. You don't want a Tiananmen but these idiots are pushing it.
 

Airedale260

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I am for a targeted and tactical response. We pretty much know (Thanks to people being stupid enough to post what they do on Social Media) who the malfactors are. We need to use Federal Assets to apprehend them. And expose them to the entire Nation. Any Foreign actors at play in this captured and dragged into court in chains (With Sanctions to any country involved) and the streets under curfew until peace is restored. I would rather this be done without a lot of bloodshed. Those of us who have seen people die first hand are not wanting to go to lethal force if we can help it. Seeing someone die sticks with you and you will never unsee that sight.

In a lighter related note. SB is going mental about Trumps speech.

Well, Antifa being declared a terrorist organization (something that should have been done a while ago) means the JTTFs around the country are probably busy as hell but preparing to go lock up the biggest troublemakers, and getting local assistance for it.

People are fed up between the lockdowns, the lawlessness, and general stupidity.
 

Marduk

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I will say that I find many of you are over eager for Trump to break out the big guns. I do think it's necessary to some extent. I have strong libertarian tendencies, but the state must show that it is the biggest dog in the game and that messing with law and order is a Very Bad Idea for rioters.

Yet at the same time, it is very important to draw a distinction and make clear that most protesters want real, necessary reform and that we're dealing with a minority of the protesters. There needs to be a carrot and stick approach, with the carrot being promised reforms for the police. While the federal government's ability to reform the police is limited, Trump should be meeting with Congressional leaders to figure out what can be done. A crackdown can be accepted, but it should not be celebrated.
And that's where the greatest absurdity of the situation lies.
Minneapolis has a democrat mayor, governor and city council (to which Minneapolis PD answers). And not centrist ones, but from what we can see, quite left wing ones. The same people who want "nicer", higher quality and more progressive policing. These officials are being very sympathetic to the protests, some even excuse riots. They are already holding all the levers of power needed to make it happen, if possible at all. By all chance most of the people who are demanding reforms have voted for them, and will continue to do so.

So what's the holdup? Why isn't it happening if everyone there agrees it should?
Either:
a) Democrats don't want to do what they say they want to do and what their electorate wants
b) Democrats can't do what they promise for one reason or another but still promise what the electorate wants to hear
c) The reform side, especially its more radical wing, wants downright impossible things that no one can deliver (the abolish police people basically)

On the face of it, seeing things like these:

Seems like the city government is not eager to fund the police (not surprising considering the electorate's sentiment) and in not unrelated note, has apparently obsolete police training standards and methods compared to the rest of the country (who would have thought that under-funding the police causes that?)

Considering these factors, i would say that it would be far more constructive if all the people who are protesting, rioting, or just expressing their sympathy, instead of doing that, each donated 1$ for MPD training.
 

CarlManvers2019

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As bloodthirsty as I sometimes express myself. You don't want a Tiananmen but these idiots are pushing it.

Some guys in ANTIFA maybe planning to use just that, something to martyr their cause

Don’t do it, keep them locked in, till they get tired or turn against themselves
 
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And yet I can't help but think there's an uncontrollable tide coming. It comes down with the illusion of power and those cuck politicians are failing at controlling them to get this far.

If a radicalised next generation learns of how this works then something terrible will happen.


You do realise you are responding to the Enemy's Divide-and-Conquer racially aware agitprop exactly the way they want, so they can use people like you to further demonise white people and further drive wedges into society, right?
 

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