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Senate panel votes to make women register for draft

The Senate Armed Services Committee has approved language in its annual defense policy bill that would require women to register for the draft.The National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) approved…
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How does women getting drafted work? They also take up guns to shoot at people or take the easier jobs too?
 
Random Username said:
Their roles.

I assume paperwork is the same as a man. It gets more complicated on the LGBT side but you need a war to test that.
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In theory they'll be assigned based on manpower needs without taking gender into account because, AFAIK there aren't any MOS's which women are excluded from.

In practice the ones deciding who goes where will take gender into account and keep the drafted gals away from the most dangerous roles if they can.
 
Buba said:
@ATP - indeed Poland had the three Wilk class subs - submarine mine-layers intended to lay minefields blocking the Soviet Fleets exit from the Gulf of Finland. These are from the very late 1920s.

I wonder if smaller subs - smaller than Orzeł, i.e. c.600 versus 1100 tons surfaced - wouldn't had been better.
These would funded using the French loan of 2,4B Francs from 1936. Hence I'm not looking at the Italian 600 series or British "S" class boats.

Thank you, @gral
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I read some article about our submarines/forget where,as usual/ and it claimed,that they prefer bigger submarines like Orzeł vecouse they planned for attacking soviet navy send to intercept convoys,and becouse it could have battleship,they wanted bigger sub with more torpedoes in one salvo to made it more probable that we at least damage it.
Why not more smaller sub? becouse they thought,that only one would have chance to fire at battlewagons.

Considering how "good" soviet fleet was during WW2,we crearly overestimated them.

About woman in army - @PsihoKekec is right,Israel draft them - but we must remember that they fought against arabs.Who belive that people killed by woman could not go to heaven and get 72 used virgins.It would not work against any other enemy,and if they fought russian only effect would be a lot of gangrapes on prisoners of war.
 
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Buba said:
Oh, yes!
Polish generals had runaway imaginations ...
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In that particural case,i could undarstandt that.Soviet Baltic fleet on paper was impressive.

In reality they get massacred in 1941 and hide in harbours till the end of war.German cruisers could shell soviet forces on land till they were out of ammp.and biggest german ship sunked by soviet fleet was small destroyer.
But it have funny moments - when german blow up soviet battleship Marat,soviets floated bigger part and claimed,that it is still warship.I have book about WW2 naval war made during commie times - and Marat is damaged,not sunked there.

But our generals could not knew that before WW2.
 
Runaway imagination, faulty intelligence reports, erroneous interpretation of intelligence data - all militaries had their share of these.
I've seen some nice howlers mentioned at dws.org.pl • Strona główna
1 - Polish tank production capacity - 300 tanks a month (USSR military intelligence analysis)
2 - Poland will mobilise 60 InfDiv (German military intelligence analysis)
 
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BlackDragon98 said:
How will "child support" be arranged?
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Simplest solution - it won't.
Seriously - with lenght of service (mostl likely) being 18-24 months - why bother?
Upduffed = (dishonourable) discharge.

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By child support you mean the Army playing "legal daddy" and paying for the child's upkeep, or do you mean daycare?
 
Buba said:
Simplest solution - it won't.
Seriously - with lenght of service (mostl likely) being 18-24 months - why bother?
Upduffed = (dishonourable) discharge.
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They'll probably do what they already do. If a gal shows up to basic pregnant they send her home and tell her to come back after the kid is born. Once she's through basic they accommodate the pregnancy.

That's probably not going to change.

Buba said:
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By child support you mean the Army playing "legal daddy" and paying for the child's upkeep, or do you mean daycare?
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Daycare most likely. I suspect they'll keep single mothers based stateside with jobs that are very unlikely to result in orphaned kids.

Edit: That's assuming single mothers aren't given a draft exemption.
 
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bintananth said:
Once she's through basic they accommodate the pregnancy.
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If you are USA based - this means 4 years "with the colours".
In which case losing c.6 months for late pregnancy/post partum leave can still make the Happy Mother a valuable employee.
If there is a draft then Service length is shorter, which could make such a person useless from a military point of view.
Anybody know how it actually is handled in Israel?

Hmm - anti-conception implants two-three months before induction?
 
Buba said:
If you are USA based - this means 4 years "with the colours".
In which case losing c.6 months for late pregnancy/post partum leave can still make the Happy Mother a valuable employee.
If there is a draft then Service length is shorter, which could make such a person useless from a military point of view.
Anybody know how it actually is handled in Israel?

Hmm - anti-conception implants two-three months before induction?
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Regarding Israeli conscripts, upon pregnancy they have either the option of abortion and continuing to serve, or stopping the service prematurely. I believe the arrangement must be different for soldiers who signed on to prolong their service beyond the conscription period (career military), but I'm not sure of the specifics.

Edit: medical expenses and mental health support/therapy if they choose abortion is on the IDF's dime.
 
Buba said:
Hmm - anti-conception implants two-three months before induction?
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Compulsory contraception and or abortions would anger everyone from "no abortions or contraceptives for anyone, ever, under any circumstances" crowd to the "free abortions and contraceptives for anyone who wants them" crowd, so that's not going to happen.
 
Birth control is given at Basic. For what it does for the body anyway less because they be fucking
 
bintananth said:
Do recruits at Basic even have enough time or privacy to sneak off somewhere to have sex without getting caught?
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Yes.
You just have to make sure you have. Battle buddy on fire guard watch for you, and for there to be no snitch. You then wait until the DS do thier rounds then have fun
 
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