Free Speech and (Big Tech) Censorship Thread

Cherico

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They'd need to put it to public record that they own everything posted in all regards not previously filed as intellectual property of another entity, which immediately annihilates the Section 230 protections because those rest on the speech not being "theirs", which is obviously impossible if they specifically claim ownership of it.

Because the "All Your Content Are Belong To Us" is the only thing anywhere in the legally-binding User Agreement for them to work with, and to make it worse on their image there's not a single thing about monetization of content in there so they have to resort to the blank check to delete whoever they please to justify the ban by the terms of the contract.

If they do win this court battle, then there is a very real chance of the media-producing companies launching Lawfare on content-claiming platforms to force them to properly define things in a way that does not allow for stealing the rights to particular videos initially posted on them. To say nothing of what all the networks that picked up series with YouTube pilots will want.

Edit: Actually, since Reddit is claiming pre-emptive trademark rights on all content posted there, it's even worse! To uphold this reading is to make it totally impossible to retain any rights to something you initially post on a "platform" with terms like this, with no need for them to file anything on it.

Its reddit their not very bright and thus wouldn't see how this could go horrifically wrong for them if they get a judge who isn't in their pocket which is honestly pretty likely as this goes up the chain.
 

DarthOne

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Report: Google To Step Up "Prebunking" Scheme To "Inoculate People" Against 'Conspiracy Theories'

"Prebunking could help communities reach a kind of herd immunity when it comes to misinformation"

According to a report from the Associated Press, Google is stepping up its so called "prebunking" scheme, a way of stopping 'misinformation' before it spreads by indoctrinating people to disbelieve what tech big wigs consider to be 'propaganda'.

The report, which reads like a press release, states that Google is to push several short video ads on all major social media platforms that will focus on 'misinformation' surrounding vaccines, COVID-19, immigration, climate change and elections.

The scheme is being rolled out initially in Germany after it was previously tested in Eastern Europe.


According to a report from the Associated Press, Google is stepping up its so called "prebunking" scheme, a way of stopping 'misinformation' before it spreads by indoctrinating people to disbelieve what tech big wigs consider to be 'propaganda'.
Beth Goldberg, head of research and development at Jigsaw, an incubator division of Google stated that "Using ads as a vehicle to counter a disinformation technique is pretty novel. And we're excited about the results."

The report further states:

While belief in falsehoods and conspiracy theories isn't new, the speed and reach of the internet has given them a heightened power. When catalyzed by algorithms, misleading claims can discourage people from getting vaccines, spread authoritarian propaganda, foment distrust in democratic institutions and spur violence.
It also notes that 'fact checks' by the likes of AP "aren't read by everyone, and won't convince those already distrustful of traditional journalism."

"Content moderation by tech companies is another response, but it only drives misinformation elsewhere, while prompting cries of censorship and bias," the report continues.

As reported by Infowars last year, in its testing of the "prebunking" scheme, Google used a video created by Infowars producer Greg Reese, and admitted that the goal is to make people immune to anti-establishment figures such as Alex Jones.

"The Holy Grail will be: can we actually measure, in the moment, if you're able to apply that prebunking lesson and recall it a week later when you see Alex Jones using emotional language?" Goldberg told The Verge, adding "I'm not sure that we will get significantly closer in the near term."

Critics argues that the scheme is more insidious than overt censorship because it seeks to reengineer how people think by feeding them establishment approved narratives on what is acceptable thought.

The AP report even compares the "prebunking" videos to vaccines, noting that "the effects of the videos eventually wears off, requiring the use of periodic "booster" videos."

"Prebunking could help communities reach a kind of herd immunity when it comes to misinformation, limiting its spread and impact," it adds.





Sander van der Linden, a University of Cambridge professor who worked with Google to develop the scheme declared "You can think of misinformation as a virus. It spreads. It lingers. It can make people act in certain ways."

"Some people develop symptoms, some do not. So: if it spreads and acts like a virus, then maybe we can figure out how to inoculate people," van der Linden added.

The move by Google comes after recent revelations about the Global Disinformation Index, an extensive effort to blacklist sources of information and news determined to be 'disinformation'.

The Global Disinformation Index, a British organization with two affiliated U.S. nonprofit groups, is feeding blacklists to ad companies with the intent of defunding and shutting down websites peddling alleged "disinformation," the Washington Examiner reported.

This same "disinformation" group has received $330,000 from two State Department-backed entities linked to the highest levels of government, raising concerns from First Amendment lawyers and members of Congress.


According to a report from the Associated Press, Google is stepping up its so called "prebunking" scheme, a way of stopping 'misinformation' before it spreads by indoctrinating people to disbelieve what tech big wigs consider to be 'propaganda'.
 

Ixian

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Report: Google To Step Up "Prebunking" Scheme To "Inoculate People" Against 'Conspiracy Theories'


According to a report from the Associated Press, Google is stepping up its so called "prebunking" scheme, a way of stopping 'misinformation' before it spreads by indoctrinating people to disbelieve what tech big wigs consider to be 'propaganda'.

"Prebunking" sounds like a fancy way of saying "Propaganda", and would you look at that, they plan to use ads so they can turn a profit at the same time.

Edit: Even more hilarious, the guy who came up with this is actually a woke propaganda expert.

 

ThatZenoGuy

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Reddit again conveniently forgetting they are supposed to be a platform, not a publisher.

Unfortunately they will probably win this court battle.

They didn't forget anything, they know exactly what they're doing.
Why be a platform, or a publisher, when you can have your cake and eat it too? What self respecting business wouldn't exploit such laws? (especially when influenced by outside politics and governments)
 

ShadowArxxy

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Reddit again conveniently forgetting they are supposed to be a platform, not a publisher.

Unfortunately they will probably win this court battle.


Trying to independently monetize a subbreddit *is* one of the things Reddit does consistently enforce, so his claim on those grounds is shaky at best. The other issue of him attempting to trademark "WallStreetBets" is pretty mucch going to ride completely on whether he can make a viable argument that he created that name and "brand" independently of Reddit even if the subreddit is its primary component.
 

Morphic Tide

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Trying to independently monetize a subbreddit *is* one of the things Reddit does consistently enforce, so his claim on those grounds is shaky at best.
It's not in the User Agreement contract so it's up to the arbitrary termination clause

The other issue of him attempting to trademark "WallStreetBets" is pretty mucch going to ride completely on whether he can make a viable argument that he created that name and "brand" independently of Reddit even if the subreddit is its primary component.
By that logic YouTube probably owns the Hazbin Hotel pilot and all Helluva Boss episodes, which the companies Vivziepop works with will naturally look at rather poorly.
 

ShadowArxxy

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By that logic YouTube probably owns the Hazbin Hotel pilot and all Helluva Boss episodes, which the companies Vivziepop works with will naturally look at rather poorly.
With an animated show there's a lot of work that the creator does to actually create the work in question, which creates a clear line between "content creation" and "content publication". With a subreddit, there isn't such a clear line given that the content creation is inherent to the platform.
 

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Discord just shut down The Left Can't Meme server for encouraging or depicting dehumanizing or discriminatory content. From what I'm seeing, it looks like Discord may be in the process of a purge of right-leaning boards.

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Cherico

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Discord just shut down The Left Can't Meme server for encouraging or depicting dehumanizing or discriminatory content. From what I'm seeing, it looks like Discord may be in the process of a purge of right-leaning boards.

Not surprised at all.
 

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