Business & Finance Florida Passes Bill Prohibiting Banning Politicians from Social Media Platforms

[Husky_Khan]

Florida passes bill prohibiting social media companies from banning politicians

The Florida House and Senate voted this week to pass legislation that would prohibit social media companies from banning politicians.Fines for social media companies that try to ban politicians fro…

thehill.com

The bill will have social media platforms incur fines of up to $250,000 a day for statewide politicians and $25,000 for other elected officials. The bill also allows suspensions of up to two weeks and for individual posts to be removed if they do violate the companies policies. The bill awaits whether Governor DeSantis will sign it. He has spoken highly of the bill and is expected to sign it.

 

[Cherico]

Florida passes bill prohibiting social media companies from banning politicians

The Florida House and Senate voted this week to pass legislation that would prohibit social media companies from banning politicians.Fines for social media companies that try to ban politicians fro…

thehill.com

The bill will have social media platforms incur fines of up to $250,000 a day for statewide politicians and $25,000 for other elected officials. The bill also allows suspensions of up to two weeks and for individual posts to be removed if they do violate the companies policies. The bill awaits whether Governor DeSantis will sign it. He has spoken highly of the bill and is expected to sign it.

thank god for florida man.

 

[TyrantTriumphant]

I'm glad someone in the GOP is willing to stand up to the tech-oligarchs. We need more people like DeSantis and less like Cheney and Romney.

 

[Rocinante]

Florida passes bill prohibiting social media companies from banning politicians

The Florida House and Senate voted this week to pass legislation that would prohibit social media companies from banning politicians.Fines for social media companies that try to ban politicians fro…

thehill.com

The bill will have social media platforms incur fines of up to $250,000 a day for statewide politicians and $25,000 for other elected officials. The bill also allows suspensions of up to two weeks and for individual posts to be removed if they do violate the companies policies. The bill awaits whether Governor DeSantis will sign it. He has spoken highly of the bill and is expected to sign it.

Desantis is the best Governor in the country and I really hope he runs for president.

There hasn't been someone I WANT to vote for...maybe ever.

Usually it's a reluctant picking of the less bad candidate.

Desantis lately seems like an outright good candidate. I love the moves he's made in Florida this last year.

 

[Sir 1000]

Florida passes bill prohibiting social media companies from banning politicians

The Florida House and Senate voted this week to pass legislation that would prohibit social media companies from banning politicians.Fines for social media companies that try to ban politicians fro…

thehill.com

The bill will have social media platforms incur fines of up to $250,000 a day for statewide politicians and $25,000 for other elected officials. The bill also allows suspensions of up to two weeks and for individual posts to be removed if they do violate the companies policies. The bill awaits whether Governor DeSantis will sign it. He has spoken highly of the bill and is expected to sign it.

I wouldn't get terribly excited about this guy's. That fine is a joke to big tech, not to mention they can still ban if the ridiculous tos are violated. Which in practice still leaves big tech the ability to do whatever it want's. I'm getting a cuckservative ''looks good to the right'' but actually achieves nothing pratically.

 

[Bear Ribs]

I can't find the wording to this bill but my inclination is that it could have hilarious knock-on effects. Imagine if, because you ran for (Lost but still ran) town mayor you could force SpaceBattles and Sufficient Velocity to reverse your banning or charge them a quarter million a day.

 

[Rocinante]

I wouldn't get terribly excited about this guy's. That fine is a joke to big tech, not to mention they can still ban if the ridiculous tos are violated. Which in practice still leaves big tech the ability to do whatever it want's. I'm getting a cuckservative ''looks good to the right'' but actually achieves nothing pratically.

It sends a message about the kinds of things he would do as a president.

 

[Bacle]

I can't find the wording to this bill but my inclination is that it could have hilarious knock-on effects. Imagine if, because you ran for (Lost but still ran) town mayor you could force SpaceBattles and Sufficient Velocity to reverse your banning or charge them a quarter million a day.

So, thanks to DeSantis, now we have a legit way to fiscally kill those sites via their own mod-staff stupidity?

...someone who's on the edge of perma-bans in those places needs to move to Florida ASAP, and run for mayor or city council.

Edit: This is a joke, just to clarify.

 

[Battlegrinder]

I'm all for sticking it to Twitter as much as possible, but I have no idea how this bill is supposed to survive a court challenge. Twitter is a private company and they have considerable freedom to act, as are most other social media sites, and I'm not sure this is supposed to be anything but a stunt (or, at best, a stunt and a statement of intent).

Short of declaring Twitter and co common carriers that cannot ban anyone (which DeSantis can't do) or a menace to civil society and thus illegal (which no one can do), the best way I can see a state going after them is some sort of "Truth in TOS" law that fines companies for uneven and biased enforcement of thier TOS, and even that is iffy.

So, thanks to DeSantis, now we have a legit way to fiscally kill those sites via their own mod-staff stupidity?

...someone who's on the edge of perma-bans in those places needs to move to Florida ASAP, and run for mayor or city council.

"Dox yourself on SV in the hopes of sueing them via a Constitutionally dubious bit of virtue signaling legislation" is a really stupid idea. Stop obsessing over SB and SV, you're not going to get your revenge on them and should jusy move on.

 

[Bear Ribs]

So, thanks to DeSantis, now we have a legit way to fiscally kill those sites via their own mod-staff stupidity?

...someone who's on the edge of perma-bans in those places needs to move to Florida ASAP, and run for mayor or city council.

Okay, found the exact wording and it's even funnier than that. Under 106.011(3)(e) you have the description of politician and even trying to convince people to elect you as a write-in candidate works, so merely announcing that you'd like people to vote for you in Florida for any position is sufficient.

I'm in agreement with @Battlegrinder, however, that this will fold like wet newspaper in the courts. It's just a virtue signalling bill.

 

[Rocinante]

"Dox yourself on SV in the hopes of sueing them via a Constitutionally dubious bit of virtue signaling legislation" is a really stupid idea. Stop obsessing over SB and SV, you're not going to get your revenge on them and should jusy move on.

I don't think he was being serious. This attitude is a little uncalled for.

 

[LordsFire]

Okay, found the exact wording and it's even funnier than that. Under 106.011(3)(e) you have the description of politician and even trying to convince people to elect you as a write-in candidate works, so merely announcing that you'd like people to vote for you in Florida for any position is sufficient.

I'm in agreement with @Battlegrinder, however, that this will fold like wet newspaper in the courts. It's just a virtue signalling bill.

It's at least a little bit more than that. At a minimum, it'll cost the social media companies lawyer fees to defend it, and when a challenge does happen, it'll make national news, publicizing the issue further, as well as driving the point home to more politicians.

I'd hope it'd do more than that still, but it will be more than just virtue signalling.

 

[Captain X]

Honestly, the best response to Big tech censorship is to eliminate the barriers which enforce their monopoly so that they can be replaced by alternatives. Everyone is focused on Twitter and Facebook, but there are alternatives out there, and just like Facebook effectively replaced MySpace as the most popular social media site, so too can Facebook be replaced. They can ban anyone they like, but if the end result of that is that everyone goes over to some alternative that doesn't have partisan mods/admins, it will just be their own undoing in the end.

Speaking of Facebook, the way to go after them would be to attack the spyware and other information gathering that they use.

 

[Sir 1000]

It sends a message about the kinds of things he would do as a president.

Ineffective virtue signaling to the right while the left is not even mildly inconvenienced?

 

[Rocinante]

Ineffective virtue signaling to the right while the left is not even mildly inconvenienced?

Cracking down on social media, but you're intentionally being obtuse here so I don't wish to continue the discussion.

 

[Sir 1000]

Cracking down on social media, but you're intentionally being obtuse here so I don't wish to continue the discussion.

This isn't even close to a crackdown though? I'll grant it's a step in the right direction, but much more effective legislation is needed. Desantis himself i dunno, i'm wary of the gop and the uniparty in general, so i need to see some actually damaging moves done to the left before i get my hopes up.

 

[Rocinante]

This isn't even close to a crackdown though? I'll grant it's a step in the right direction, but much more effective legislation is needed. Desantis himself i dunno, i'm wary of the gop and the uniparty in general, so i need to see some actually damaging moves done to the left before i get my hopes up.

You should look into some of what Desantis has said and done over the last year.

The reason I like him is his opposition to the left and that he kept Florida free during covid while other Governors were and are playing dictator.
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He's the best person I've seen so far to combat the crazy leftism, and as far as I can tell, there is some bite to go with the bark. Which again, is why I actually like him.

No this move isn't a solution, but as you've just admitted, it's a step in the right direction. A step -- which is more than 90% of the rest of the republican cucks are doing.

 

[Battlegrinder]

Honestly, the best response to Big tech censorship is to eliminate the barriers which enforce their monopoly so that they can be replaced by alternatives. Everyone is focused on Twitter and Facebook, but there are alternatives out there, and just like Facebook effectively replaced MySpace as the most popular social media site, so too can Facebook be replaced. They can ban anyone they like, but if the end result of that is that everyone goes over to some alternative that doesn't have partisan mods/admins, it will just be their own undoing in the end.

Speaking of Facebook, the way to go after them would be to attack the spyware and other information gathering that they use.

The issue with that is that generally speaking there aren't a bunch of barriers enforcing thier monopoly. They have a monopoly because network effects push people to all move to the dominate platform and disincentive switching. You can't legislate that problem away.

At best, you could crack down on things like thier coordinated actions to screw over Parler, but even if you block that, it's not going to hurt them. Parler is never going to become the new Twitter, even in a media environment that's not hostile.

 

[Captain X]

The issue with that is that generally speaking there aren't a bunch of barriers enforcing thier monopoly. They have a monopoly because network effects push people to all move to the dominate platform and disincentive switching. You can't legislate that problem away.

At best, you could crack down on things like thier coordinated actions to screw over Parler, but even if you block that, it's not going to hurt them. Parler is never going to become the new Twitter, even in a media environment that's not hostile.

The example of Parler is exactly what I'm talking about. And they could well become the next Twitter if Twitter keeps going down the path it's going down and just becomes a toxic leftist echo chamber, so long as no one is allowed to interfere with Parler or another hypothetical alternative.

 

[Battlegrinder]

The example of Parler is exactly what I'm talking about. And they could well become the next Twitter if Twitter keeps going down the path it's going down and just becomes a toxic leftist echo chamber, so long as no one is allowed to interfere with Parler or another hypothetical alternative.

There is no chance that Parler becomes the next twitter. None. Zero.

Yes, political Twitter is awful and toxic, but most people don't interact with political Twitter, for those that do, Parler is just as bad to a huge portion of them.