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Terthna

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Not all of them, but there is a disturbing correlation with the most successful businessmen having psychopathic or even sociopathic personality traits.
That's because screwing other people over is the easiest, quickest, and most reliable way to get rich, so long as everything you do is technically legal (or you at least have a way to not get caught); which requires a certain lack of empathy for others to follow through with. Look at WeWork for example:

Adam Neumann spent years selling anyone and everyone who would listen to him on lies piled on top of lies, and now he's worth over $2 billion. Moreover, ever after having his house of cards finally collapse and being ousted from the scam of a company he founded, he's at it again with a new company by the name of Flow; which has already received $350 million from a venture capital firm, even though the only thing that exists as far as I can tell right now is the name. That is the sort of rich person our culture tends to cultivate; con artists exalted to positions of prominence by idiots gambling with other people's money.
 

mrttao

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Not all of them, but there is a disturbing correlation with the most successful businessmen having psychopathic or even sociopathic personality traits.
That's because screwing other people over is the easiest, quickest, and most reliable way to get rich
The quickest and easiest and most reliable way to get rich is to be born rich.

These are princes and princesses who have grown up into psychopaths due to their upbringing. surrounding by servants, or others members of the degenerate aristocracy. Their friends enticing them into joining in on whatever this weeks degeneracy is

The 2nd easiest way is to get into politics and take bribes.

Being a psychopathic crook scamming people out of millions or exploiting people is a distant 3rd. And usually requires you to be a scion of old blood both so you can get the seed money, and for the connections needed to make it work.

A vanishingly small amount of the truly rich people are really self made.
They hire people to ghostwrite books claiming they are. but cursory investigation shows it to be full of lies and that they really got their start by being born to old money
 

Morphic Tide

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A vanishingly small amount of the truly rich people are really self made.
Actually most of the US's current crop of billionaires are self-made, due to the "rags to riches to rags in three generations" wonk and the tech sector being ridiculously fertile ground. Few from millionaire households. The thing is that the Silicon Valley generally lot have very little skill in assembling social influence with all the middle-of-the-road old money or the big-league old money.

Sure, you don't have many outright rags-to-riches of going from poverty to billionaire status, but there's quite modest beginnings for a great deal of the massive shot-callers. You don't need millions to get billions, a few tens of thousands will do as a starting point (which is decidedly upper middle class, but far from "rich"). Seed capital and connections just speed it up and let you be sloppier about it.
 

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mrttao

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Actually most of the US's current crop of billionaires are self-made, due to the "rags to riches to rags in three generations" wonk and the tech sector being ridiculously fertile ground. Few from millionaire households. The thing is that the Silicon Valley generally lot have very little skill in assembling social influence with all the middle-of-the-road old money or the big-league old money.

Sure, you don't have many outright rags-to-riches of going from poverty to billionaire status, but there's quite modest beginnings for a great deal of the massive shot-callers. You don't need millions to get billions, a few tens of thousands will do as a starting point (which is decidedly upper middle class, but far from "rich"). Seed capital and connections just speed it up and let you be sloppier about it.
You are simply wrong. Stop believing their own self accounts and do ever a cursory examination.

For example, take bill gates.
> momma donated half a million dollars to high school so they get computers early so baby can play with it
> dropped out of college to start a business... with a few million dollars from parents as gift to finance it
> didn't actually make dos or windows. instead used his connections at IBM to know they desperately needed a quick OS, bought the company that made DOS and windows (with another cash injection from parents) and then signed a sweetheart contract with with IBM thanks to contracts
> didn't pay taxes. instead of going to jail, the law was changed to specifically make a loophole for microsoft to never pay any taxes
> claims to be self made

This is your common typical "self made" story.

Also, you should know that things like "forbest richest men" list and the like specifically exclude all the old money families and anyone who owns "aristocratic titles"... why? because they will otherwise monopolize the entire list.
 
You are simply wrong. Stop believing their own self accounts and do ever a cursory examination.

For example, take bill gates.
> momma donated half a million dollars to high school so they get computers early so baby can play with it
> dropped out of college to start a business... with a few million dollars from parents as gift to finance it
> didn't actually make dos or windows. instead used his connections at IBM to know they desperately needed a quick OS, bought the company that made DOS and windows (with another cash injection from parents) and then signed a sweetheart contract with with IBM thanks to contracts
> didn't pay taxes. instead of going to jail, the law was changed to specifically make a loophole for microsoft to never pay any taxes
> claims to be self made

This is your common typical "self made" story.

Also, you should know that things like "forbest richest men" list and the like specifically exclude all the old money families and anyone who owns "aristocratic titles"... why? because they will otherwise monopolize the entire list.

self made millionaires are possible, but you'll never hear of them because they are pillars of the local community not rubbing shoulders with the federal government. and the government will do everything they can to mess them over
I legit think a self made billionaire or even a self-made high-end millionaire is impossible.
 

Morphic Tide

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Meanwhile, George fucking Soros came from a family who'd been living off a single general store and moved into magazines. Elon Musk dropped out of Stanford to place his bets in the dotcom bubble with his own brother and made out like a bandit. Mark Zuckerberg's parents were a psychiatrist and a dentist. These aren't "The Rich People" situations, these are far closer to middle class than the sorts you're focusing on. And the churn of "mere" millionaires strongly subject to rags to riches to rags is even more prominent in this, given how it's mostly small business owners.

You need SOME money and SOME connections, but the line is in actuality extremely fine. Intergenerational wealth has fantastical sums, but recently there's not been much keeping some rando with $50,000 to burn, a good credit score, and not-abhorrent speaking skills from ending up at the heart of the next Great Wealth Accumulator.

Just look at Notch, who ended up a fucking billionaire over a block-game and is so utterly an outsider to the halls of wealth that he is visibly miserable about all the hangars-on because he's just not a big-money man.

Edit: Very important to note is that one very good substitute to having your own connections and giant bag of money is being able to bullshit venture capital firms into sharing theirs. A lot of the techbro field runs on that trick!
 
Meanwhile, George fucking Soros came from a family who'd been living off a single general store and moved into magazines. Elon Musk dropped out of Stanford to place his bets in the dotcom bubble with his own brother and made out like a bandit. Mark Zuckerberg's parents were a psychiatrist and a dentist. These aren't "The Rich People" situations, these are far closer to middle class than the sorts you're focusing on. And the churn of "mere" millionaires strongly subject to rags to riches to rags is even more prominent in this, given how it's mostly small business owners.

You need SOME money and SOME connections, but the line is in actuality extremely fine. Intergenerational wealth has fantastical sums, but recently there's not been much keeping some rando with $50,000 to burn, a good credit score, and not-abhorrent speaking skills from ending up at the heart of the next Great Wealth Accumulator.

Just look at Notch, who ended up a fucking billionaire over a block-game and is so utterly an outsider to the halls of wealth that he is visibly miserable about all the hangars-on because he's just not a big-money man.

Edit: Very important to note is that one very good substitute to having your own connections and giant bag of money is being able to bullshit venture capital firms into sharing theirs. A lot of the techbro field runs on that trick!
The quickest and easiest and most reliable way to get rich is to be born rich.

These are princes and princesses who have grown up into psychopaths due to their upbringing. surrounding by servants, or others members of the degenerate aristocracy. Their friends enticing them into joining in on whatever this weeks degeneracy is

The 2nd easiest way is to get into politics and take bribes.

Being a psychopathic crook scamming people out of millions or exploiting people is a distant 3rd. And usually requires you to be a scion of old blood both so you can get the seed money, and for the connections needed to make it work.

A vanishingly small amount of the truly rich people are really self made.
They hire people to ghostwrite books claiming they are. but cursory investigation shows it to be full of lies and that they really got their start by being born to old money

George Soros falls under option 2

Mark falls under option 3

and last I checked Elon musk actually came from a pretty wealthy family.

Notch MAY be the only exception to the 3 categories and it wouldn't surprise me to find out some big revelation that put him under one of the three categories
 

Zachowon

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Notch just made a good game that kicked off.
What made him the money was selling it to Mojang/microsoft
 

mrttao

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Meanwhile, George fucking Soros came from a family who'd been living off a single general store and moved into magazines. Elon Musk dropped out of Stanford to place his bets in the dotcom bubble with his own brother and made out like a bandit. Mark Zuckerberg's parents were a psychiatrist and a dentist. These aren't "The Rich People" situations, these are far closer to middle class than the sorts you're focusing on. And the churn of "mere" millionaires strongly subject to rags to riches to rags is even more prominent in this, given how it's mostly small business owners.

You need SOME money and SOME connections, but the line is in actuality extremely fine. Intergenerational wealth has fantastical sums, but recently there's not been much keeping some rando with $50,000 to burn, a good credit score, and not-abhorrent speaking skills from ending up at the heart of the next Great Wealth Accumulator.

Just look at Notch, who ended up a fucking billionaire over a block-game and is so utterly an outsider to the halls of wealth that he is visibly miserable about all the hangars-on because he's just not a big-money man.

Edit: Very important to note is that one very good substitute to having your own connections and giant bag of money is being able to bullshit venture capital firms into sharing theirs. A lot of the techbro field runs on that trick!
George Soros "rags to riches" story involved so much corruption its not even funny. He combined hedge fund scamming with political scamming. and connections.

Notch is a legit example of self made man...
who got rich by selling entertainment. He made minecraft.
And this was the classic "exit" rich. where someone lucks out into something of significance so the oligarchs buy him out, knowing his money will quickly evaporate and they will remain holding the power long term.

Please do note that nobody said "nobody ever became rich without X"
Someone said "most rich people are psychos because the quick and easy way to wealth is to exploit and scam others".

To which I replied that in terms of "quick and easy", that method is number 3, not number 1.
number 1 being born to it. number 2 being politics. number 3 being exploit and scam.

And 2 and 3 are interlinked because often it requires political friends to exploit and scam people for the most money.

That does not mean those 3 ways are the only ways to make money. Just that those are the easiest and quickest ways to make money.

So yea... if you manage to win the meme lottery and make the "next minecraft" (unlike the countless indie devs who live in poverty) then great for you. but this was not a quick and easy route to wealth.
 

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BREAKING: Rep. Jamaal Bowman has been charged with one misdemeanor count of falsely pulling a fire alarm.

This is a JOKE. The crime was obstruction of congressional proceedings. That is a felony under federal law 18 U.S.C. § 1505. Up to 5 years in prison.

Bowman could have also been charged on obstruction of justice. Class A felony that carries a punishment of up to 30 years in prison.

If he was a J/6 protestor, he would be in solitary confinement and facing years in prison


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