Five minutes of hate news
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Bear Ribs
Well-known member
What causes you to think this is a case of Slander? I genuinely can't see how that charge could possibly apply.
She's a rape victim who didn't want men around her. That's completely understandable.
Despite people's delusions on the matter, MtF trans will always have masculine features -- bone structure, voice depth, size, et cetera. Those distinguishing features alone would be enough to freak anyone out who has a justified avoidance of men.
The hospital, in this case, understood her request, completely ignored it or were under the delusion that MtF are universally accepted as women to people, and had her attended to by a man. And when she understably had issues with this, they canceled her --the patient's-- treatment because she may have offended the MtF attendant/nurse.
If I were her, I'd bring up a civil case against the hospital. There are plenty of solicitors in the UK who'd be happy to take a bite out of the NHS's jugular, given how badly its management (especially in regards to its allocation of funds) has degraded over the decades.
Not wanting to be treated by someone is not slander. Where are you drawing this inane conclusion from? All she wanted was for her personal beliefs and her psychological needs respected. This is literally part of proper medical practice. There are a multitude of legitimate reasons for seeking particular accommodations during medical care. Would you fault a man or woman not wanting to be served by the opposite sex due to religious reasons, or would you want to force them to violate their deeply held beliefs.
They literally canceled a life-saving procedure, because someone had differing beliefs and stood up for their right to be reasonably accommodated. This is textbook retaliation and medical malfeasance, and you are trying to apologize for it.
Wargamer08
Well-known member
See the issue is that her past cause lost against current cause. Trans has more victim points then sick or injured women.
Bear Ribs
Well-known member
This specific hospital is one of the few private ones in the UK. I'm not entirely sure how that would affect a suit, way too complex and involves too many facts I don't know. They still work with the NHS and this level of cooperation is also something above my pay grade.
Bear Ribs
Well-known member
So remember when I said to use this tactic on idiots gluing themselves to stuff?
Apparently, Volkswagen read my posts and liked what they saw.
It is not a poor decision. It is a request for reasonable accommodation as was her right under UK law.
And your spin is just pathetic. You are trying to bullshit to excuse a hospital punishing a patient for wanting their rights respected.
Stop being dishonest. You know it doesn't prevent her from going under the knife, it only does if her rights are not properly respected. And, lol "beauty standards". This is a feminist, I am pretty sure they are actually uptight over the whole thing. I, seriously doubt that this woman would be flinging around such accusations without an honest reason for thinking that it is such.
You are just trying to bullshit us. They clearly, as per the article, targeted her for her personal beliefs and for requesting reasonable accommodation under the law. The fact that you continue to apologize for this is sickening.
She isn't in the wrong, she asked for accommodations that she was entitled to under the UK law. The hospital was obstinate and when she stood up for her rights- they retaliated. Though, it looks like we are getting through to you.
And as our fellow member has said, what happened here is a very bad thing. This hospital is acting in a political manner when they are supposed to be apolitical entities that treat all patients equally.
How was she in the wrong? She asked for accommodation that she was legally entitled to. And it is a pretty reasonable one.
It is literally in the article. They are going after her for not agreeing with their gender ideology.
Some day proxy the monster you created will come to devour you in turn.
mrttao
Well-known member
Surely this is trolling
I mean, we know proxy 404 is aware of the existence of trans and related politics
LordsFire
Internet Wizard
See, here's the problem. You are calling this 'her setting preconditions for treatment.'
She isn't setting preconditions. She's saying 'please do not have men touching my body in a medical capacity. I was sexually assaulted and I am not comfortable with that.'
This is not 'setting a precondition.'
If the hospital had informed her 'If you want this surgery you are not allowed to disagree with our ideology about 'trans' people,' then she could have made an informed decision based on their incredibly unethical policy.
Instead, she complained that a man had come into her hospital room, and asked for it not to happen again. And they responded to this by cancelling her potentially life-saving surgery.
Its not a threat just reality.
I've seen dozens of guys just like you, and what happens is actually pretty typical pretty common. Some day you wont be woke enough. Some day something you thought was perfectly acceptable will be used against you. Or maybe you mispeak or maybe a relative says something the mob doesn't agree with and your not willing to turn on your family.
Its going to happen to you some day.
You see they don't see you as a friend they see you as a tool and one day you wont be needed any more and they will toss you aside at best, and at worst the same people you supported will tear you down.
Its just a matter of time and I think deep down inside you know it.
LordsFire
Internet Wizard
Do you have any way to support this, or is it just a raw assertion?
I rarely say this about a member on here, but I'm honestly disgusted by @Proxy 404's comments on this -- this is victim-blaming to a ludicrous degree.
He's either a troll or someone so fucking mentally-deficient that he makes bleach-drinking anti-vaxxers look like Nobel Prize winning scientists. smh
He's either a troll or someone so fucking mentally-deficient that he makes bleach-drinking anti-vaxxers look like Nobel Prize winning scientists. smh
The person came into the room while she was alone and made eye contact. I am pretty sure she was intentionally being harassed. And no, she wasn't being respected. She made a request for reasonable accommodation, the hospital denied and perhaps even harassed her and when she stood up for her rights (at least according to UK law)...they cancelled a vital surgery.
If her request wasn't reasonable, then the Hospital would have been able to refute her claims on legal grounds. Rather than denying her due to her politics.
The fact is she made a claim for accommodation under the law. And the Hospital rather than accommodating her, or refusing it under the same law...potentially harassed her and then retaliated against her for making the legal claim. I am pretty sure retaliating against people for asserting legal rights is illegal, if not unethical.
Wargamer08
Well-known member
I'm quoting just you, but this goes for everyone. Why are you engaging with a self-admited political activist and low effort troll?
because were all hoping he takes in something and grows up, or at the very least developes an idenity outside of politics. Lordsfire has a whole lot of pacience a lot more then I do. I've been burned enough times that I'm pretty much done with all of that nonsense.