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[mrttao]

I think a good question to ask is 'why insects?'

Aren't there protein rich algae and plankton that we can also farm in similar or higher amounts to insects?

Turning that into near tasteless blocks with which to flavor with sauce has got to be easier than soy beans into tofu and tofu is a pretty popular foodstuff.

I'd much rather eat a block of algae protein than a block of insect protein. The instinctual revulsion is still there just thinking about it.

Yes. algea is actually even better according to the metrics they purport to espouse. And even has a bonus of absorbing CO2 from the atmosphere which is explicitly their alleged reason why we need to eat insects.

They are pushing insects for one reason and one reason only, humiliation.
They want to emasculate the commoners so they won't rebel.

 

[Rocinante]

I think eating bugs is really gross, but as soon as they can sell me a chocolate flavored powder that's cheaper than whey and has a good amino acid balance, I'm on it. If it's powder formed, tastes like a chocolate milkshake and doesn't have any downsides, I stop caring at that point. Cheap protein is a win.

I've tried different bug items because I too am adventurous. I do not like them. They have tasted gross. But put it in a podwer where I can't tell and make it taste good in a shake....it just becomes about money at that point.

 

[Terthna]

Yes. algea is actually even better according to the metrics they purport to espouse. And even has a bonus of absorbing CO2 from the atmosphere which is explicitly their alleged reason why we need to eat insects.

They are pushing insects for one reason and one reason only, humiliation.
They want to emasculate the commoners so they won't rebel.

Well that, and they want to impose as much class stratification as possible so that they can feel superior.

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

Worms when fried actually have a similar taste and texture to the batter bits that you get at long John silvers. Flavor it in cheese powder, cover it in chocolate or dust some ranch powder and you might have something. I could see something like that being sold in Japan as some kind of novelty snack.

 

[King Arts]

kek. the irony.

no you dummy. 3 generations frrom now. the USA is still going to have caucasians, blacks, chinese, jews, indians (america), indians (india), japanese, arab, mexicans, and so on.

They are not going to all become a singular "american race" in 3 generations without mass replacement genocide migration.

It takes much much longer than 3 generations of isolation for disparate groups to fully meld together into something unique.

Dude you went full @Marduk you never go full Marduk interpreting what I said in the dumbest way possible. I'm not saying ethnic groups will diverge that far biologically in 3 generations. I was saying that you need 3 generations for assimilation/adoption of cultural practices to become "natural" In the immigration thread someone even said how 3rd generation Japanese, Chinese, etc. act no different than the whites around them.

Immigration and multiculturalism news

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/12/28/a-highly-toxic-silicon-valley-meltdown-over-well-documented-h1b-visa-fraud-explodes/

the-sietch.com

Bullshit. this was literally your entire argument.

You argued that everyone is against mass migration genocide is an evil racist and that limiting immigration to very small amount will effectively create an american race

oh wait, it gets fucking dumber

Wait I never said racism was evil. I have no problem with nations having a Jus sanguine system. Japan has it I don't think Japan should adopt a jus soli system and let people who don't have Japanese blood become citizens. Racism(depending on the type) is perfectly ok. I was harping on Bacle because he was not being honest and being hypocritical.

If you want to make America change and move in a new direction that is different from it's traditions thats fine as long as you are honest about what you want, and don't cloak it as something it's not. A policy of getting rid of Jus soli is not conservative. That does not mean it's bad, but you have to be honest.

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

Dude you went full @Marduk you never go full Marduk interpreting what I said in the dumbest way possible. I'm not saying ethnic groups will diverge that far biologically in 3 generations. I was saying that you need 3 generations for assimilation/adoption of cultural practices to become "natural" In the immigration thread someone even said how 3rd generation Japanese, Chinese, etc. act no different than the whites around them.

Immigration and multiculturalism news

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/12/28/a-highly-toxic-silicon-valley-meltdown-over-well-documented-h1b-visa-fraud-explodes/

the-sietch.com

Wait I never said racism was evil. I have no problem with nations having a Jus sanguine system. Japan has it I don't think Japan should adopt a jus soli system and let people who don't have Japanese blood become citizens. Racism(depending on the type) is perfectly ok. I was harping on Bacle because he was not being honest and being hypocritical.

If you want to make America change and move in a new direction that is different from it's traditions thats fine as long as you are honest about what you want, and don't cloak it as something it's not. A policy of getting rid of Jus soli is not conservative. That does not mean it's bad, but you have to be honest.

Yeah, I think people sometimes forget what is conservative for one nation is anything but for another. It's why I kind of laugh at American monarchist who claim to be conservative. Like "Dude you're essentially wanting to tear our entire system down and wanting to return to a motherland that's not even your motherland. That's not conservatizing anything, you're fundamental wanting to tear down a system/construct and rebuild it into something completely different. That's the textbook definition of a radical.

 

[TheRejectionist]

Surrendered? Academia was always leftist. Even before there was a left, really.

I am in academia (university) and I am not leftist and I can testify that not all of all academia has been leftist. What it tends to happen is they tend to be subversive and "looking like" they are challenging the status quo. But trust there's plenty of NATO and right-wing (on the wrong things) professors.

I entered as full blown monarchist and anti-globalist nationalist, and I am still very much for the latter.

Wow, you really don't know history at all. Impressive.

No, while he is wrong on many things 1948 many of the Jewish fighters were not pre-1914/1915 born indigenous Jewish of the Mustaffarite of Jerusalem , in fact many were Ashkenazis/Sephardi from Europe that had escaped or survived the Holocaust, so it that sense they weren't indigenous to the area like say the then Jerusalemite followers of Judaism.
1967, the Six Day War, even when I was in Israel it was taught and told as a "pre-emptive" attack where they attacked first because they "supposed" and "alleged" that the Egyptians were about to attack since they had closed the straits of Tiran and had told the UN peacekeepers to leave , so the Israeli bombed the Egyptian Air Force and stormed Sinai and Golan, but they were the ones to fire the first shot.
On 1973 that's a war started by Israel's adversaries, that is indeed correct, it was started by Israel's adversaries.

 

[TheRejectionist]

 

[Marduk]

Dude you went full @Marduk you never go full Marduk interpreting what I said in the dumbest way possible. I'm not saying ethnic groups will diverge that far biologically in 3 generations. I was saying that you need 3 generations for assimilation/adoption of cultural practices to become "natural" In the immigration thread someone even said how 3rd generation Japanese, Chinese, etc. act no different than the whites around them.

Immigration and multiculturalism news

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/12/28/a-highly-toxic-silicon-valley-meltdown-over-well-documented-h1b-visa-fraud-explodes/

the-sietch.com

And i'm saying your take is stupidly wrong, after 3 generations in some cases you get worst "angry youths" in case of islamic migrations rather than assimilation, to take it for granted that it happens after 3 generations is retarded, 3 generations is the absolute minimum pretty much, and fuck you for pinging me for no reason.

If you want to make America change and move in a new direction that is different from it's traditions thats fine as long as you are honest about what you want, and don't cloak it as something it's not. A policy of getting rid of Jus soli is not conservative. That does not mean it's bad, but you have to be honest.

Also retarded take. So if you have a post-communist country then only communists are conservatives? You are playing a dumb word game...

Conservatism | History, Intellectual Foundations, & Examples | Britannica

Conservatism, political doctrine that emphasizes the value of traditional institutions and practices and their gradual evolution under conditions of continuity and stability. They generally believe that government should be the servant, not the master, of existing ways of life.

www.britannica.com

In reality, ius soli is a legacy of being a colonial frontier state. Now USA is no longer a colonial frontier state, but a superpower and one of most developed countries in the world, it doesn't have remote farmsteads where a government bureaucrat may not stumble by for decades (and many would wish otherwise), nevermind have fancy things like having births in hospital with a certificate, and so keeping track of who is a citizen would be hard otherwise, which "oh well, born here, a citizen then" solved. But it's a different world now.

 

[King Arts]

And i'm saying your take is stupidly wrong, after 3 generations in some cases you get worst "angry youths" in case of islamic migrations rather than assimilation, to take it for granted that it happens after 3 generations is retarded, 3 generations is the absolute minimum pretty much, and fuck you for pinging me for no reason.

I don’t want to be accused of talking about people behind their back that’s why I tagged you. Should I not do that?

Also retarded take. So if you have a post-communist country then only communists are conservatives? You are playing a dumb word game

I mean yes? What exactly do you think traditional means. If a nation is and has been communist for generations and that is their traditions then a policy of changing that is not conservative or traditional within that framework.
That doesn’t mean that getting rid of tradition is good or bad. The Aztecs killing people in human sacrifice is traditional practice and Christianity stopping it is changing things and making a new thing.

That applies to other things like gay rights. Tolerance of gay acts(there are caveats). Was traditional in the Ancient world Christianity making sodomy illegal goes against tradition and conservatives of that time and place.

 

[Marduk]

I don’t want to be accused of talking about people behind their back that’s why I tagged you. Should I not do that?

You should not do that either sneakily or not.

I mean yes? What exactly do you think traditional means. If a nation is and has been communist for generations and that is their traditions then a policy of changing that is not conservative or traditional within that framework.
That doesn’t mean that getting rid of tradition is good or bad. The Aztecs killing people in human sacrifice is traditional practice and Christianity stopping it is changing things and making a new thing.

What if it has been nationalist for 4 generations, then communist for 3 generations, and then liberal for another 3 generations? Which one is conservatism then?
You are using a cheeky personal relative definition that can mean literally anything that is different from what most people use and then pretend you aren't causing confusion which then you shit on other people for getting confused by.

That applies to other things like gay rights. Tolerance of gay acts(there are caveats). Was traditional in the Ancient world Christianity making sodomy illegal goes against tradition and conservatives of that time and place.

I don't recall reading pagan conservatives making grand speeches about defending their gay tradition from my ancient history reading.

 

[shangrila]

How would you? Pagan conservatives weren't established elites that wrote grand speeches, they were illiterate rural patriarchs and tribal kings. By the time Christianity was secure enough to start its reforms, every civilized elite that could resist it was dead.

And there's no way the Church would preserve their texts anyway.

Ah right, Julian the apostate was totally an illiterate tribal king. His works are preserved by the way.

And you know the Platonic Academy wasn't closed until the reign of Justinian in the 520s, after being revived in the 400s? The famous neoplatonist Proclus (whose texts are also preserved) began teaching in the 430s.

Paganism was banned in the Roman Empire in the 390s btw.

 

[SoliFortissimi]

I stand corrected about Julian...but Plato was basically proto-Christian anyway.

 

[Scottty]

How would you? Pagan conservatives weren't established elites that wrote grand speeches, they were illiterate rural patriarchs and tribal kings. By the time Christianity was secure enough to start its reforms, every civilized elite that could resist it was dead.

And there's no way the Church would preserve their texts anyway.

Why of course not! Which is why we today know absolutely nothing about Greek mythology, or Norse mythology, let alone Greek philosophy and its various traditions. As if Christian monks would think that kind of stuff worth writing down!
/sarcasm

 

[Zachowon]

Do I need to pull out the videos of how even the Greeks and romans didn't practice it as common as people said and was often illegal or looked down upon?

Why of course not! Which is why we today know absolutely nothing about Greek mythology, or Norse mythology, let alone Greek philosophy and its various traditions. As if Christian monks would think that kind of stuff worth writing down!
/sarcasm

Fun fact about the Norse, they started to incorporate God before being converted fully

 

[SoliFortissimi]

I got a bit carried away, so I'd like to apologise for that comment.

 

[TheRejectionist]

 

[Vyor]

No, while he is wrong on many things 1948 many of the Jewish fighters were not pre-1914/1915 born indigenous Jewish of the Mustaffarite of Jerusalem , in fact many were Ashkenazis/Sephardi from Europe that had escaped or survived the Holocaust, so it that sense they weren't indigenous to the area like say the then Jerusalemite followers of Judaism.
1967, the Six Day War, even when I was in Israel it was taught and told as a "pre-emptive" attack where they attacked first because they "supposed" and "alleged" that the Egyptians were about to attack since they had closed the straits of Tiran and had told the UN peacekeepers to leave , so the Israeli bombed the Egyptian Air Force and stormed Sinai and Golan, but they were the ones to fire the first shot.

1: Yeah, the jewish people that went there did come from elsewhere... but they weren't the ones that divided the land either, the euros did that.

2: I would argue that closing the only way to get food from elsewhere is an act of war by itself.

 

[TheRejectionist]

1: Yeah, the jewish people that went there did come from elsewhere... but they weren't the ones that divided the land either, the euros did that.

Euros no. E

2: I would argue that closing the only way to get food from elsewhere is an act of war by itself.

On that, it wasn't the only way to get food AFAIK from and to Israel.

Israel had and still has 273 kilometers (170 miles) of coastline in the Mediterranean and by that time they had already not one but four seaports : Haifa, Tel Aviv, Ashdod and Jaffa. If you want to be pedantic, Jaffa was only important from an historical point of view. Plus, by 1967, there were already 8 airports and airbases/airstrips where food could be transported and arrive :

Civilian

1. Lod
2. Eilat
3. Haifa

Military

1. Ramat David
2. Hatzor
3. Tel Nof
4. Palmachim
5. Ovda

Additionally, Gurion had ALREADY established secret friendly relations with Adnan Menderes, the Prime Minister of Turkey, 9 years prior to the war and while Turkey in 1967 wanted an Israeli withdrawl, it conclusively refused to call them "aggressors", plus the French until 1967 (officially) stopped supporting Israel, but by then the Israeli already had Mirage planes, and there are still to this day British bases in Cyprus which would have likely helped the Israelis out, even with Harold Wilson of the Labour party in government back in London.
Then there's the fact that the Mediterranean is, as today, a NATO lake, and since Israel was "informally" pro-Western, that would have helped regardless. Until 1970 there was also the Wheelus Airbase in Tripoli and nobody how the Senussi royals and local Tripolitanian Libyans complained, that airbase would have most likely helped the Israelis. Barring France, you could have Italy, Greece and Turkey helping or not the Israelis.

So, while the argument can be made that it would have closed ONE entrance for importing food, Israel was by no means vulnerable or as vulnerable to be strangled by hunger by its neighbors.

 

[Vyor]

On that, it wasn't the only way to get food AFAIK from and to Israel.

Israel had and still has 273 kilometers (170 miles) of coastline in the Mediterranean and by that time they had already not one but four seaports : Haifa, Tel Aviv, Ashdod and Jaffa. If you want to be pedantic, Jaffa was only important from an historical point of view. Plus, by 1967, there were already 8 airports and airbases/airstrips where food could be transported and arrive :

Twas the only way to get in from the red sea, I did misremember that. But the straights being closed being an act of war had been stated multiple times over the 10 years preceding the blockade.