King Arts
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So you are ok with gay rape then? But you abhor men raping women, and are ok with men raping men.
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...Where did I say I was fine with male-on-male or female-on-female rape?
A mentally ill predator gaining access to a women's prison is like putting a hungry fox in a chicken coup.
King Arts
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I said I don't care about trannies going to women's prisons. This implies one of two things either I believe trannies are women(ha if you've seen what I said before you'd know it's not that. OR I don't see the point of segregating sexes. The government should harshly punish rape, I am not a vindictive shit so I don't care if criminals have consensual sex, and I also am against homosexuality. Thus segregating by sex means much more homosexuality. Rape is bad, yet homosexual rape is far worse, also those prisoners have to be released eventually(except the lifers) so might as well let them get used to living around women, that way when they get out of prison they won't be raping innocent women because their urges can't be controlled because they saw something that they haven't seen for years....Where did I say I was fine with male-on-male or female-on-female rape?
A mentally ill predator gaining access to a women's prison is like putting a hungry fox in a chicken coup.
You responded by saying that trannies going to women's prison will lead to rape. This implies either men can't get raped in which case you are so dumb in regards to sex I don't know how to respond. OR you don't care about men being raped, which is extra disgusting and I'd look down on you.
mrttao
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Very low, as he will be going to female prison.
Who is going to accident him then? the women in there? The other trannie rapists?
mrttao
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> Prisons should be unisex so that the poor innocent rapists can have consensual heterosexual sex with each other
facepalm
just... facepalm.
King Arts
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Are you stupid?
Do you think the only people in prison are rapists? There are thieves, tax evaders, etc. And guess what they don't stay there forever. I don't care what modernist bullshit about sex segregation you believe in. But I actually believe almost everything should be unisex. Like starship troopers.
King Arts
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The only thing that makes me think showers should not be unisex is that people should not be lusting after those who aren't married with each other.
Bathrooms ideally should not be unisex because men have urinals which lets men go number 1 faster.
But I don't really care about unisex bathrooms that much.
I know. I know. I just... facepalm.
The more you post, the more I'm sure you're either one of three things: a) a Christian fundamentalist stereotype that wouldn't be out of place in a Far Cry game, b) a troll that's escalating to desperately get reactions from people, or c) someone with thought processes and cognitive thought patterns so loopy it makes Green Hill Zone look like bloody Kansas.
King Arts
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And you just are a conservacuck who is going to whine and bash your chest about trannies because that's not popular among conservatives now, but later on you will support it. I shouldn't expect more from an Englishman but hey.
Also I try to be logical and consistent. I don't really care about gender segregated bathrooms why do you? There are many places that have unisex bathrooms and they aren't havens of rape and debauchery.
...Yeah, I'm leaning towards troll or someone who wouldn't be hired as a Roman architect.
King Arts
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???...Yeah, I'm leaning towards troll or someone who wouldn't be hired as a Roman architect.
Wouldn't be hired as a Roman architect what?
Anyway why did you call me a Christian fundie in this thread that has nothing to do with religion? I don't think I brought it up.
mrttao
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1. Half of the trannies in prison are in fact convicted rapists.
2. How about harsh strict prisons that don't have any rape due to constant surveillance? No, prisoners don't get privacy.
3. Letting prisoners have sex for fun is just completely defeating the point.
It is a prison not a resort.
4. If you let prisoners have sex they get pregnant, which is ridiculously extremely expensive for the tax payer.
mrttao
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Neither of those.
If a trannie is sent to a male prison:
Men are not going to rape trannies because they are so revolting.
Trannies are much less likely to be raping men in prison, because the potential victims are too dangerous. They prefer to target women and little boys who can't fight back
Also male prisons have more strict security.
If a trannie is sent to a female prison:
Trannie is going to rape women because he has easy access to victim. And the guards are lax because female prisoners are not as violent as male prisoners.
Women are not going to rape trannie because duh.
The above are not absolute.
There are exceptions for the above.
But generally speaking it is the truth of the matter.
There is also the huge problem that you are basically rewarding rapists.
In male prisons, rapists get beaten.
In female prison, a male rapist is surrounded by easy victims.
Furthermore. Your argument was literally "send the trannie convicted rapists to women prisons to replace prison homosexual rape with prison heterosexual rape"... is just... words cannot fathom how stupid it is.
At least most male inmates are not in for rape. (unlike trans convicts who are 50% rapists). It would actually be safer to have a fully unisex prison instead of a "male trannies + females" prison. Because the majority non rapist male convict will keep the trannies in line.
Relatively speaking. This is less stupid than your idea of sending trannies to female prisons.
Still horrifically stupid.
This idea is based purely on your imagination instead of reality. Which is basically the essence of liberalism.
You are sitting down and imagine things without any observation of reality. Or worse, outright denying reality to fit your imagination.
Any casual observation of reality of prisons would show you the sheer necessity of segregating prisons by gender.
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King Arts
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1. Maybe I don't know. I was talking about criminals in general. But any proof on that?
2. Yes it would be great any rape in prison punished with an instant death penalty by the guards. I'd love to suspend the constitution how about you?
3. Wow I support torture and I don't support this stupid right wing bullshit. Being a pointless dick to people in prison does not help anything, and could cause even more stress and make prisons more violent. It's much smarter to have conjugal visits as a incentive to be good, and take them away for bad behavior. Also what is just about punishing the spouse of someone who is in prison? Do you support adultery or something? People should be able to have relations with their spouse.
4. Condoms?
Lol what? Like 1/5 supposedly get raped. Trannies are a facimile of a woman. They aren't as good, but they are closer than a normal man. If someone is going to do gay rape in prison because there is no woman I think they would prefer a tranny over a regular man.
I take it you are an expert in tranny rape?
But seriously again looking up some videos of that woman who went to prison. Trans women are more likely to get raped in male prisons.
No I said I did not care if trannies get sent to women's prisons. Because I think most prisons should be unisex unless you are getting into high level maximum security stuff where people are lifers. Because again all you are doing is making them shitty to be shitty, you aren't making the people there more likely to not reoffend when they get out.
Also even if my argument was that why would it be stupid, homosexual rape is worse than straight rape. Any rational conservative should be able to see it, the only way you could say it isn't is if you think there is nothing wrong with LGBT but even then you could make a decent logical argument that homosexual rape should be more harshly punished than heterosexual rape, because the effects on the victim are worse.
Why is it horrifically stupid? Most people in prison are not there for rape. It sounds like you are the one who is denying reality just to fit with whatever is the standard mainline conservative position. In this case tough on crime.
mrttao
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... I literally didn't say. You literally quoted me saying SURVEILANCE. Not summary executions.
Put them on trial, with video evidence thanks to ubiquitous surveillance. And then execute the guilty
just... words escape me.
You are in favor of torture.
But also want prisons to be resorts rather than a punishment.
What sorcery is this. This is next level doublethink.
facepalm... just... facepalm...
i just... can't... I can't even finish reading your post from the sheer concentrated stupidity. I am done.
let someone else deal with this.
King Arts
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Sorry, it's a bit late, I misread what you said.
I'm in favor of punishing people and giving them what they deserve. Some people deserve torture, also I never said anything about resorts.
Tell me what crime that does not warrant death would warrant removing someone's rights to conjugal visits so they can be with their spouse occasionally. Drug dealing and most gang members don't deserve that being taken away.
Do they not stop pregnancy motherfucker? I thought you said you were a Jewish atheist not a Catholic "Muh encouraging sex!"
It might also reduce the HIV/AIDS rate. That would be nice wouldn't it?
mrttao
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98% effective when used perfectly.
94% effective in reality because average person is retarded and can't operate a condom correctly. (no, you can't just flip it over and wash it and then use it again)
... even lower when used by prisoners since prisoners are even fucking dumber than average.
And there is literally no way to force them to actually use the condoms. You can only supply them with condoms and hope they use it.
If they get pregnant in prison, it means easy path towards early release.
And this is only talking about conjugal visits. And not your idiocy of a free for all rapefest.
You literally advocated that heterosexual rape in prison is preferable to homosexual rape (less of a sin). so you advocate to have unisex prisons...
which will naturally feature lots of rape babies when convicted rapist male and trannies rape female prisoners and impregnate them because they didn't use a condom.
mrttao
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Sigh. Didn't want to address the [citation needed] disease. since people shit those out all the time to waste the other side's time and effort.
Even a casual search finds tons of citations on that.
Here is USA
USA: Almost 50% of Trans Inmates in Federal Custody for Sex Offences
Data obtained from the Bureau of Prisons has revealed that almost 50% of trans-identified male inmates are in custody for sex offences, compared to just 11% of the general male population. The shocking revelation comes after documents were acquired through a Freedom of Information request filed...
4w.pub
Here is for canada
Study finds nearly 45% of trans-women inmates convicted of sex crimes
A shocking new Correctional Service of Canada study has revealed that a staggering majority of male-to-female transgender inmates are behind bars for sexual offences.
torontosun.com
Here is UK
And many many more. just presearch it.
Let us also for fairness hear from the other side. What do the trannies themselves say?
Are 50% of Trans Women in Prison Sex Offenders?
The transphobic myth that refuses to die
aninjusticemag.com
> Yes it is true that the UK ministry of justice reports trans sex offenders to be 58.9%. while only 3.3% of cis women and 16.8% of cis men are sex offenders.
> BUT they only record the genders of those who request a case conference. which only someone with a lengthy prison sentence will even bother doing.
> As such it is totally impossible to tell what actual % of each demographic are sex offenders.
just... fucking lol.
case conference means a parole request btw for those who are not britbongers
more of my ever dwindling life wasted. le sigh.
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King Arts
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It would still vastly reduce pregnancies and std transmission rate you know like they did in the real world when condoms are easily available. And yes criminals are on average dumber than normal people but well they can still be taught.
As for the second I never said anything about a free for all rapefest, simply decriminalize sex, and make it integrated. Most criminals are not rapists they did not rape people before they went to prison why do you think they would rape women in prison when they did not rape women outside of it?
Your arguments can hold merit for criminals who are sex offenders rapists and such you could house them separately but again most criminals aren't rapists.
Also I never brought up homosexual rape being worse because of sin. There is a perfectly logical secular reason on why gay rape is worse than straight rape. It's pretty easy to spot, I don't know why people are too dumb to see it.
Now I'm not disputing that, and I only skimmed it. The thing is I'm not claiming to be an expert so most of my knowledge on prison is watching youtube videos about people who went, or movies. And the sterotype of the tranny prostitute is a thing. So my question is when they say "sex crimes" are they talking about rape, or messing with kids. OR are they saying any crime that deals with sex which being a prostitute exchanging sex for money would technically count as?Sigh. Didn't want to address the [citation needed] disease. since people shit those out all the time to waste the other side's time and effort.
Even a casual search finds tons of citations on that.
Here is USA
USA: Almost 50% of Trans Inmates in Federal Custody for Sex Offences
Data obtained from the Bureau of Prisons has revealed that almost 50% of trans-identified male inmates are in custody for sex offences, compared to just 11% of the general male population. The shocking revelation comes after documents were acquired through a Freedom of Information request filed...
Here is for canada
Study finds nearly 45% of trans-women inmates convicted of sex crimes
A shocking new Correctional Service of Canada study has revealed that a staggering majority of male-to-female transgender inmates are behind bars for sexual offences.
Here is UK
And many many more. just presearch it.
Let us also for fairness hear from the other side. What do the trannies themselves say?
> transphobia!Are 50% of Trans Women in Prison Sex Offenders?
The transphobic myth that refuses to die
> Yes it is true that the UK ministry of justice reports trans sex offenders to be 58.9%. while only 3.3% of cis women and 16.8% of cis men are sex offenders.
> BUT they only record the genders of those who request a case conference. which only someone with a lengthy prison sentence will even bother doing.
> As such it is totally impossible to tell what actual % of each demographic are sex offenders.
just... fucking lol.
case conference means a parole request btw for those who are not britbongers
more of my ever dwindling life wasted. le sigh.
"Muh troll!" God stop acting like a whinny nerd you want to act like that and call everyone who has wildly different oppinions than you a troll go to spacebattles.