Election 2020 Election Fraud: Let's face it, this year will be a shitshow

That said I think we should audit all of the states, and make it a manditory thing post every election.
Oh, I absolutely agree.

I'd take it farther and say no politican should be seated until after an audit of an election is finished. It might delay some things in DC or state house's a bit, but it would do a lot to restore faith in our electoral system.
 
Oh, I absolutely agree.

I'd take it farther and say no politican should be seated until after an audit of an election is finished. It might delay some things in DC or state house's a bit, but it would do a lot to restore faith in our electoral system.
It would be easier if we also did only in person voting with photo ID, and exceptions only being made for certain circumstances.

None of this mass mail in shit.
 
It would be easier if we also did only in person voting with photo ID, and exceptions only being made for certain circumstances.

None of this mass mail in shit.
We need a national voting holiday; that way there are no complaints about missing work or the difficulty of getting to the polls from either side.

Every business but emergency services shut down for a day, everyone goes to vote in person with an ID, and everyone gets a paid federal holiday to make it even more attractive to people.

For homebound people they can do mail in, but it has to done before the election, and the votes must be quarantined separately from in-person votes.
 
We need a national voting holiday; that way there are no complaints about missing work or the difficulty of getting to the polls from either side.

Every business but emergency services shut down for a day, everyone goes to vote in person with an ID, and everyone gets a paid federal holiday to make it even more attractive to people.

For homebound people they can do mail in, but it has to done before the election, and the votes must be quarantined separately from in-person votes.
This sounds good to me
 
Except that even that doesn't prove jack shit because I can make it look like I can prove that with the 1950s census. You can make the math say whatever you want.

Yeah, gotta say that things like this do not actually help the election fraud case; verifying ballots and such is what can actually prove shit happened, not mathematicians using a 10 year old survey and extrapolation.
I stand corrected and offer my apologies.
 
House Democrats Pass Federal Takeover of America’s Elections


Democrats passed legislation Tuesday that would federalize America’s electoral system, giving President Joe Biden’s Department of Justice (DOJ) significant control over election law.

The House passed H.R. 4, the John R. Lewis Voting Rights Advancement Act of 2021. The bill passed 219-212, with Democrats strongly in favor of the bill and Republicans largely against the bill.

Democrats named the bill after the late Rep. John Lewis (D-GA), a prominent civil rights activist.

Rep. John Lewis, D-Ga., a leader of the civil rights movement, is flanked by Rep. G.K. Butterfield, D-N.C., left, and Rep. Charles B. Rangel, D-N.Y., right, as he joins the Congressional Black Caucus Political Action Committee in endorsing Hillary Clinton as prominent African-American Democrats rush to her aid ahead of the Feb. 27 Democratic primary in South Carolina, on Capitol Hill in Washington, Thursday, Feb. 11, 2016. Rep. Gregory W. Meeks, D-N.Y., chairman of the Congressional Black Caucus Political Action Committee, said that Clinton has been a long term partner who understands the racial divide. (AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite)
The legislation would radically transform America’s electoral system. The legislation would mandate that any state and its political subdivisions would have to obtain preclearance from the Department of Justice (DOJ) or the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia before making changes that might affect voting rights.

A state and its political subdivision would be subject to preclearance for a ten-year period if:

  • 15 or more voting rights violations occurred in the state during the previous 25 years;
  • 10 or more violations occurred during the previous 25 years, at least one of which was committed by the state itself; or
  • Three or more violations occurred during the previous 25 years, and the state administers the elections.
  • A political subdivision as a separate unit shall also be subject to preclearance for a 10-year period if three or more voting rights violations occurred there during the previous 25 years.
States must also notify the public of changes to voting practices. The legislation would also mandate that courts must consider the history of voting discrimination in the state or political subdivision.

But these triggering events need not be bona fide violations of voting rights. As a practical matter, if leftwing groups were to file lawsuits against Democrat-controlled cities for ordinary election integrity safeguards and the city were to admit fault and settle instead of fight it in court, that surrender would count toward the tally triggering preclearance requirements for the entire state.

House Republicans railed against the legislation:

Rep. Byron Donalds (R-FL) said that the legislation should not fool Americans:



Congressman Byron Donalds

@RepDonaldsPress



HR. 4 is HR. 1 (2.0), don't be fooled. Cancels common-sense voter ID requirements Blocks states from updating voter rolls Allows for electioneering Federalizes America's elections Gives the DOJ power to veto state election law HR. 4 isn't for the people.


Rep. Debbie Lesko (R-AZ) said, “H.R. 4 gives the Biden DOJ authority to designate a voter ID law as a voting rights violation or as evidence of voting discrimination. H.R. 4 is an unconstitutional way for the federal government to dictate elections and a way to weaken the vote of the American people!”


H.R. 4 gives the Biden DOJ authority to designate a voter ID law as a voting rights violation or as evidence of voting discrimination. H.R. 4 is an unconstitutional way for the federal government to dictate elections and a way to weaken the vote of the American people!


#HR4 is nothing more than another Pelosi power play to federalize our elections. This unconstitutional attack hampers states’ ability to conduct free and fair elections, eliminates commonsense voter ID requirements, and gives DC bureaucrats veto authority. I’m voting NO,” Rep. Drew Ferguson (R-GA), the Republican chief deputy whip, said.


The reason for Article 1 Sec 4 is that The Framers of the Constitution were concerned that states might establish unfair election procedures or attempt to undermine the national government by refusing to hold elections for Congress. They empowered Congress to step in and regulate such elections as a self-defense mechanism.

It does not give the Federal government carte blanche to change state election law.

This legislation would radically transform America’s electoral system. The legislation would mandate that any state and its political subdivisions would have to obtain preclearance from the Department of Justice (DOJ) or the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia before making changes that might affect voting rights.
 
House Democrats Pass Federal Takeover of America’s Elections




The reason for Article 1 Sec 4 is that The Framers of the Constitution were concerned that states might establish unfair election procedures or attempt to undermine the national government by refusing to hold elections for Congress. They empowered Congress to step in and regulate such elections as a self-defense mechanism.

It does not give the Federal government carte blanche to change state election law.

This legislation would radically transform America’s electoral system. The legislation would mandate that any state and its political subdivisions would have to obtain preclearance from the Department of Justice (DOJ) or the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia before making changes that might affect voting rights.

The framers also under stood that the house was going to be where all the stupid shit would come from and created the senate to kill things like this. So time to use that filibuster and kill this in the crib.
 
Oh, as if the demorats will give a fuck. "Living" document and all these garbage justifications.
The Constitution is a living document; that's not something that is the Dems are wrong about.

The Constitution, outside the Bill of Rights, was never meant to be a fixed/static document.

It's why we have more than 10 Amendments, including the ones that ended slavery, along with giving blacks and women the right to vote.
 
The Constitution is a living document; that's not something that is the Dems are wrong about.

The Constitution, outside the Bill of Rights, was never meant to be a fixed/static document.

It's why we have more than 10 Amendments, including the ones that ended slavery, along with giving blacks and women the right to vote.
You are misunderstanding what the living document doctrine is. It is not about properly amending the constitution.

When they say it is a living document, what they mean is they consider using sophistry to redefine the words in the constitution to be valid law.
 
You are misunderstanding what the living document doctrine is. It is not about properly amending the constitution.

When they say it is a living document, what they mean is they consider using sophistry to redefine the words in the constitution to be valid law.
That's what SCOTUS is for; they are the final word on that sort of thing.
 

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