Election 2020 Election Fraud: Let's face it, this year will be a shitshow

[BlackDragon98]

...Yeah, I'm sorry, but if you don't believe some sort of fraud occurred at this point, then you're just a fucking idiot on par with a Flat Earther. Yes, I'm including members of our own site in this.

There's no doubt that the Democrats essentially cheated enough to swing the Election. There is no doubt that corruption is being used to stop the very processes set-up to investigate said 'potential' fraud.

If they get away with rigging this Election, they'll get away with rigging the others.

What if this isn't the first election that they've successfully rigged?

Mitt Romney deliberately lost to Barack "start multiple wars worldwide" Obama in 2008 because he was paid a vast sum (by the commiecrats and other unknown groups AKA the Cabal) if he did.

His performance during the election 2008 election was weak as hell and given his anti-Trumpism, I have reason to believe he's a member of the controlled opposition. A paid monkey that jumps around and acts silly for his Commiecrat masters.

1984 was meant to be a fucking satire/warning, not a prophecy.

It was always a prophecy.

We are the Proles.

The Outer Party members are the societal elites in business, politics, and entertainment. If they step out of line or decide to oppose the Cabal, they get punished for it.

The Inner Party members are the Cabal.

Trump was a former Outer Party member that had a falling out with the Inner Party and their policies and chose to start his own group and rebelled against the Inner Party. They didn't take him seriously because they thought we, the Proles, were too stupid and wouldn't listen to Trump's enlightenment.

But in 2016, they were proven wrong.

So now in 2020, the Cabal resorts to cheating and fraud to make sure their chosen candidates become President, because USA has been awaken by Trump and is now aware of the threat posed by the Cabal.

So in a way, those Q-Anon "nutheads" aren't totally wrong about everything. We are being ruled by a vast Cabal of satanic, pedophilic elites. Just ask Jeff Epstein and his friends what kind of "cheese pizzas" and "hotdogs" are on the menu tonight.

 

[JagerIV]

You're seeing a conspiracy where there is none. Vote fraud in the US mostly consists of people accidently voting at the wrong polling place. It does not consist of hordes of people coming in to vote in places where they're not eligible to vote.

Voting fraud is a long standing American Tradition. Kennedy pretty unambiguously stole the 1960s election. Lindon B Johnson Stole his Senate Seat. Tammy Hall in New York is still infamous.

 

[Typhonis]

Actually it the fucking Authoritarians that are the problems and both sides have them. The idiots that forget they are 'public servants' and not the ones in charge. The ones that say 'we are in charge, you just listen to what we say" after we elect them. This can also be expanded to various agencies in the government.

They want us to trade our freedom for security. All for our 'own good' or the 'greater good'. Do we need authority yes, in an emergency. But those that seek power? I really don't trust them. Because name a time when the government has gained power that they then gave it up?

 

[Arlos]

Actually it the fucking Authoritarians that are the problems and both sides have them. The idiots that forget they are 'public servants' and not the ones in charge. The ones that say 'we are in charge, you just listen to what we say" after we elect them. This can also be expanded to various agencies in the government.

They want us to trade our freedom for security. All for our 'own good' or the 'greater good'. Do we need authority yes, in an emergency. But those that seek power? I really don't trust them. Because name a time when the government has gained power that they then gave it up?

Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus.

...Sorry, I felt like being pedantic

 

[bintananth]

Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus.

...Sorry, I felt like being pedantic

George Washington was another. Back when the US was forming he was offered kingship and said "no thanks". He also retired after serving two terms as the US President, setting an unwritten precedent every US President prior to FDR except Teddy Roosevelt followed: "You can re-elect me once. I won't try for a third term."

 

[BlackDragon98]

George Washington was another. Back when the US was forming he was offered kingship and said "no thanks". He also retired after serving two terms as the US President, setting an unwritten precedent every US President prior to FDR except Teddy Roosevelt followed: "You can re-elect me once. I won't try for a third term."

FDR is when America turned evil.

That fat traitor was the first person to start selling USA out to the Cabal.

 

[strunkenwhite]

What if this isn't the first election that they've successfully rigged?

Mitt Romney deliberately lost to Barack "start multiple wars worldwide" Obama in 2008 because he was paid a vast sum (by the commiecrats and other unknown groups AKA the Cabal) if he did.

His performance during the election 2008 election was weak as hell and given his anti-Trumpism, I have reason to believe he's a member of the controlled opposition. A paid monkey that jumps around and acts silly for his Commiecrat masters.

John McCain was the Republican nominee in 2008; Romney was 2012. I'm not sure which half of that you got wrong.

FDR is when America turned evil.

That fat traitor was the first person to start selling USA out to the Cabal.

I don't think FDR was fat.

 

[S'task]

FDR is when America turned evil.

That fat traitor was the first person to start selling USA out to the Cabal.

No? Like FDR was bad, but the "cabal" as you put it has always been present in the US, going back to shortly after its founding. The original cabal was in the alliance between the southern plantation elite and the North Eastern traders who created a system that used international trade, specifically in cotton, to dominate US politics and ensure their continued wealth and tried to prevent the formation of a strong middle class that could oppose them, and they formed much of the elite in the Democratic party of the period, with the only time they lost control was when Andrew Jackson came in and nearly screwed everything up. These elites were also derailed in many respects by the industrial revolution shifting industry into the US and weakening cotton, as well as the explosive growth of the freeholding middle class in the upper midwest whom hated slavery. They also made the massive mistake in that they threw a temper tantrum when they lost a fair presidential election and seceded, which led to the weakest the cabal was in US history from about the 1870s to 1910s. However, that would not last, and much of the modern structure and interests of the cabal formed in the 1910s, specifically under Woodrow Wilson. If you looked at all the major negatives of the modern cabal, the focus on technocratic elitism, the desire to control speech, assembly, and people, as well as the internationalism, as well as the obsession with race as defining factor governing people's capabilities, you'll find it under Wilson and the Progressive Democrats of that era. Wilson saw some of his programs rolled back, but to this day some of his most egregious power grasps were pushed into the American psychie (for instance the idea of the limit of free speech being "not being able to shout fire in a crowded threater" goes directly back to Wilson).

Sure FDR made things worse, and saw to a major restructure that saw the real establishment of a technocratic elite focused on the central government, but he was hardly the origin point. One thing folks truly miss in US history is that almost all our politics can be looked at as the struggle between centralized elitist governement (The Federalists, the Democrats) vs federalized democratic control (The anti-federalists, the Democrat-Republicans, the Whigs, the Republicans). The "cabal" as you call it is just the modern permutation of the idea that a strong, centralized elite need to runnthe US, rather than the elected representatives of the people at various levels of government.

 

[Sailor.X]

FDR is when America turned evil.

That fat traitor was the first person to start selling USA out to the Cabal.

Ha you think that happened under FDR. Read the Book the Creature from Jekyll Island. All the shit people complain about happened under Wilson.

 

[Captain X]

He also gave us the revisionist "Lost Cause" myth. Also the failure that was the League of Nations and the cause of so many problems in the Middle East.

 

[bintananth]

He also gave us the revisionist "Lost Cause" myth. Also the failure that was the League of Nations and the cause of so many problems in the Middle East.

Wilson also re-segregated the US military.

My great-grandfather lead French troops during WWI. He would not have been allowed to lead Americans and he was born in the US.

 

[BlackDragon98]

No? Like FDR was bad, but the "cabal" as you put it has always been present in the US, going back to shortly after its founding. The original cabal was in the alliance between the southern plantation elite and the North Eastern traders who created a system that used international trade, specifically in cotton, to dominate US politics and ensure their continued wealth and tried to prevent the formation of a strong middle class that could oppose them, and they formed much of the elite in the Democratic party of the period, with the only time they lost control was when Andrew Jackson came in and nearly screwed everything up.

For all his evils against the American Indians, Jackson still managed to pay off the US national debt somehow.

Like, the Rothchilds (debt masters and war mongers) must have been some kind of pissed.

And he held off the creation of the Federal Reserve by decades.

These elites were also derailed in many respects by the industrial revolution shifting industry into the US and weakening cotton, as well as the explosive growth of the freeholding middle class in the upper midwest whom hated slavery. They also made the massive mistake in that they threw a temper tantrum when they lost a fair presidential election and seceded, which led to the weakest the cabal was in US history from about the 1870s to 1910s.

Teddy Roosevelt, AKA the Good Roosevelt.

He took apart several trusts, the early forms of cabalist monopolies.

However, that would not last, and much of the modern structure and interests of the cabal formed in the 1910s, specifically under Woodrow Wilson. If you looked at all the major negatives of the modern cabal, the focus on technocratic elitism, the desire to control speech, assembly, and people, as well as the internationalism, as well as the obsession with race as defining factor governing people's capabilities, you'll find it under Wilson and the Progressive Democrats of that era. Wilson saw some of his programs rolled back, but to this day some of his most egregious power grasps were pushed into the American psychie (for instance the idea of the limit of free speech being "not being able to shout fire in a crowded threater" goes directly back to Wilson).

Sure FDR made things worse, and saw to a major restructure that saw the real establishment of a technocratic elite focused on the central government, but he was hardly the origin point. One thing folks truly miss in US history is that almost all our politics can be looked at as the struggle between centralized elitist governement (The Federalists, the Democrats) vs federalized democratic control (The anti-federalists, the Democrat-Republicans, the Whigs, the Republicans). The "cabal" as you call it is just the modern permutation of the idea that a strong, centralized elite need to runnthe US, rather than the elected representatives of the people at various levels of government.

Wilson and FDR marked the fall of liberty and democracy and the beginning of the dark times.

Which have lasted until now and continue to go on.

 

[DarthOne]

Ha you think that happened under FDR. Read the Book the Creature from Jekyll Island. All the shit people complain about happened under Wilson.

WILSOOOON!

 

[JagerIV]

Ha you think that happened under FDR. Read the Book the Creature from Jekyll Island. All the shit people complain about happened under Wilson.

I would agree that Wilson laid the groundwork, but I would say FDR was the one that really created the current world order and made that vision a reality. Like, post Wilson we could still have a president like Harding and Coolage, and the League of Nations, well, failed. Post FDR, everyone was now plugged into the Federal beuracracy through the SS system and other mass programs, the States were mostly fully brought under the Federal control, and the eternal security/war state and Global Police was firmly intrenched to the point where no later president could realistically roll much of any of it back.

 

[S'task]

He also gave us the revisionist "Lost Cause" myth. Also the failure that was the League of Nations and the cause of so many problems in the Middle East.

For as awful as Wilson was, he did not, in fact, originate the Lost Cause mythos of the Confederacy, he was just a major scholar and supporter of it. No, the father of the Lost Cause was, when you trace it back via history texts and biographies was arguably... Jefferson Davis himself. After the Civil War, he actual wrote extensive autobiographical texts that laid almost all the intellectual groundwork for the Lost Cause. Where Confederates like Lee went into a quiet retirement and nobly accepted their loss in the war (despite being wrongfully denied his citizenship because an asshole beauracrat "lost" (kept as a souvenir) his paperwork), Davis basically denied any wrongdoing and continued to justify his and the southern elite's actions to the day he died.

 

[Captain X]

I'm perfectly content to blame him for only making it popular.

 

[Bacle]

 

[Bigking321]

Little late...

 

[Zachowon]

Getting ready for gov race next year

 

[ATP]

Wilson also re-segregated the US military.

My great-grandfather lead French troops during WWI. He would not have been allowed to lead Americans and he was born in the US.

i remember some movie about american pilots during WW1 serving in french army and making one dyvision - after USA joined,black officer there was forbidden from fighting.