Election 2020 Election Fraud: Let's face it, this year will be a shitshow

Marduk

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The whole point is meaningless anyway, given that Marx didn't base his political program on whether capitalism was moral or not. Yes, modern communists don't even know the basis of Marx's political agenda (TBF, this is because Marx's predictions all failed).
Well, that's the beuity of Communism: the more you look at it, the more wrong it becomes, and all those wrongness compound on each other to be wrong in new, exciting ways you weren't expecting: you have the basic wrongness of the lay communist, the wrongness of the intelectual marxist, and the terrible interaction between those two which creates another new type of wrongness.
I am convinced Marxism has only managed to survive for so long because Nazism's vicious cuntery provided appropriate flack cover for the fucking thing to fester in the deep places of the world. Out of sight, out of mind.

Again, favourite quote of mine, thanks, Germany, what the actual fuck?
You and everyone else, here's some breaking news: derails are bad. Please stop making them. If you want to have a debate about communism or whatever unrelated to the 2020 US elections, make a thread for it.
 

Vaermina

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You, uh, wanna re-check that statement?
So... Your rebuttable is posting a picture of a something that looks completely different to what we saw in the video that's missing both the drag bar and wheels?
 
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1. State investigators say the plastic bin rolled out from next to/underneath a table was empty. All of the ballots were already removed and out on tables, according to the earlier parts of the video feed not shared by Giuliani and Co.

2. Some election workers went home, as did media and Republican party monitors. The county said there was some miscommunication somewhere, counting resumed and a state-appointed monitor returned after a brief break to watch, along with an investigator.

3. State officials said their investigators watched the full surveillance video from Election Day and said those bins of ballots were already there and accounted for earlier in the day, while both monitors and the media were there.

So, the conclusion is that the GA GOP-controlled Secretary of State's office is in on fraud along with the most Democratic county in the state?
 
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So... Your rebuttable is posting a picture of a something that looks completely different to what we saw in the video that's missing both the drag bar and wheels?

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You mean the small luggage wheels visible in both images and the handle on the top? Please, do go on about how GA ballot storage boxes don't have handles and wheels.

I can't tell just what kind of box is being pulled in the Atlanta video, but GA clearly uses black boxes that are designed to be pulled along.

State investigators have said the box was empty and that the chain of custody was maintained. So, if they're lying, the conspiracy is now grown to both Atlanta Democrats and a state agency run by a Republican (who, it must be said, does not trust the Atlanta Democrats), who decided to commit mass voter fraud in a room with visible cameras and state observers.

Where does this chain of "deep staters"/RINOs in on this massive pro-Biden fraud stop?
 
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Vaermina

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1. State investigators say the plastic bin rolled out from next to/underneath a table was empty. All of the ballots were already removed and out on tables, according to the earlier parts of the video feed not shared by Giuliani and Co.
Lie, we directly see the ballot stacks in them when they are opened.

2. Some election workers went home, as did media and Republican party monitors. The county said there was some miscommunication somewhere, counting resumed and a state-appointed monitor returned after a brief break to watch, along with an investigator.
Multiple lies, we have multiple sworn affidavits saying they were told to leave.

And the video shows counting resumed before the state appointed monitor returned when there were just 4 people in the room.

3. State officials said their investigators watched the full surveillance video from Election Day and said those bins of ballots were already there and accounted for earlier in the day, while both monitors and the media were there.

So, the conclusion is that the GA GOP-controlled Secretary of State's office is in on fraud along with the most Democratic county in the state?
You mean a single state official, who is widely known for his incompetence...


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You mean the small luggage wheels visible in both images and the handle on the top? Please, do go on about how GA ballot storage boxes don't have handles and wheels.
You might want to check the close up bin in your first picture, those aren't wheels.

And I am still not seeing any extendable handle.
 

JagerIV

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Yeah, as grainy as the video is, the things under the table are pretty clearly suitcases, not large plastic bins, and open side on, not from the top. You can also see the containers are full of paper. Why are you asking us to not believe our eyes? Have you actually seen the video, or are you just bindly believing known liars?
 

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Yeah, as grainy as the video is, the things under the table are pretty clearly suitcases, not large plastic bins, and open side on, not from the top. You can also see the containers are full of paper. Why are you asking us to not believe our eyes? Have you actually seen the video, or are you just bindly believing known liars?
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I see no evidence of voter fraud
 
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The table is placed there at 8:22 AM. There is nothing under it.

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At 10 PM, ballots are loaded into the container as they are preparing to close up for the night. Note the containers were empty before this point, and these are ballots that were opened in the presence of observers earlier.

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This is from 10:01 PM.
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They are then placed under the table.

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This is the point where most people leave, as the "cutters" were done.
The "scanners" could not stop working, as ballots could not be left unscanned overnight; there are reports the state called the center to tell them to keep working, and that the Fulton County workers had thought they got to go home before this call came in.

The state media liaison says no announcement was made for people to leave, but they followed the "cutters" leaving as it looked like they were closing up; this is the disputable point, there is no audio and the state admits this is a "he said/she said".
 

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The table is placed there at 8:22 AM. There is nothing under it.

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At 10 PM, ballots are loaded into the container as they are preparing to close up for the night. Note the containers were empty before this point, and these are ballots that were opened in the presence of observers earlier.

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They are then placed under the table.

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This is the point where most people leave, as the "cutters" were done.
The "scanners" could not stop working, as ballots could not be left unscanned overnight; there are reports the state called the center to tell them to keep working, and that the Fulton County workers had thought they got to go home before this call came in.

The state media liaison says no announcement was made for people to leave, but they followed the "cutters" leaving as it looked like they were closing up; this is the disputable point, there is no audio and the state admits this is a "he said/she said".

Lol. That is the biggest load of shit I've ever heard. So you're saying that several cutters left and the rest of the Republicans just milled out like witless sheep? And no one thought to call them back? Or inform them that they were still counting?
 
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Lol. That is the biggest load of shit I've ever heard. So you're saying that several cutters left and the rest of the Republicans just milled out like witless sheep? And no one thought to call them back? Or inform them that they were still counting?

Reportedly, yes. There is no requirement for partisan watchers in Georgia, both the Dem and Rep observers left with everyone else.
 

Vaermina

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The table is placed there at 8:22 AM. There is nothing under it.

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At 10 PM, ballots are loaded into the container as they are preparing to close up for the night. Note the containers were empty before this point, and these are ballots that were opened in the presence of observers earlier.

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They are then placed under the table.

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This is the point where most people leave, as the "cutters" were done.
The "scanners" could not stop working, as ballots could not be left unscanned overnight; there are reports the state called the center to tell them to keep working, and that the Fulton County workers had thought they got to go home before this call came in.

The state media liaison says no announcement was made for people to leave, but they followed the "cutters" leaving as it looked like they were closing up; this is the disputable point, there is no audio and the state admits this is a "he said/she said".
He said/She said isn't a thing when it's one or two people claiming one thing and a bunch of others putting forward signed affidavits saying another.🤦‍♂️
 
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He said/She said isn't a thing when it's one or two people claiming one thing and a bunch of others putting forward signed affidavits saying another.🤦‍♂️

It is when only one side's gotten to say anything in front of cameras so far.
If all the signed affidavits in this election have been true, why do the cases keep getting rejected in court?
If the truth was what was wanted, why wasn't the Georgia SoS office or Fulton country brought to the hearing?
The electors vote on the 14th, at that point, the US almost certainly has a President-elect, whoever it is.
 

JagerIV

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So, your evidence is that the ballots were at some point placed in the location, so they were valid? And the shady shit was legal, so nothing shady happened? Is that where you are now?

The fact that criminals get away with their shit is not an argument that there are no criminals. But, fine, if Georgia is simply terrible and the Republicans de facto made fraud legal, well, shame on them. Stupid party vs evil party and all that. Your random stills basically prove nothing though.
 
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So, your evidence is that the ballots were at some point placed in the location, so they were valid? And the shady shit was legal, so nothing shady happened? Is that where you are now?

The fact that criminals get away with their shit is not an argument that there are no criminals. But, fine, if Georgia is simply terrible and the Republicans de facto made fraud legal, well, shame on them. Stupid party vs evil party and all that. Your random stills basically prove nothing though.

My argument is that the ballots had already been opened and stacked in the presence of observers. They were placed with the others. Then they went into those containers around 10 PM. They then came out of those containers, all on video, so they couldn't have been substituted. They weren't there when the day started.

The implication of fraud means that somehow these ballots (presumably fraudulent for Biden?) were never challenged by any of the observers when they were opened, and somehow the Fulton County elections workers knew exactly which trays were their "special" ballots and that they would have a chance to sneak them into these containers, that all the observers would leave, then they could pull them out and scan them, all without the Secretary of State representative present noticing, and that somehow the visible CCTV cameras wouldn't have clued them in on this being a bad idea?

If so, the Fulton County elections workers are clearly in the wrong line of work, they should be knocking off casinos.
 

Vaermina

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It is when only one side's gotten to say anything in front of cameras so far.
If all the signed affidavits in this election have been true, why do the cases keep getting rejected in court?
If the truth was what was wanted, why wasn't the Georgia SoS office or Fulton country brought to the hearing?
The electors vote on the 14th, at that point, the US almost certainly has a President-elect, whoever it is.
A signed affidavit isn't getting in front of a camera and talking to the press.

It's making a definitive legal statement that if proven false can get you thrown in jail.

As to the whole "only one side's gotten to say anything", there is nothing stopping the woman in yellow from writing out her own affidavit, yet for some reason she hasn't. It's not just that she hasn't however, it's that nobody on the opposing side has actually tried to get her to do so.


My argument is that the ballots had already been opened and stacked in the presence of observers. They were placed with the others. Then they went into those containers around 10 PM. They then came out of those containers, all on video, so they couldn't have been substituted. They weren't there when the day started.

The implication of fraud means that somehow these ballots (presumably fraudulent for Biden?) were never challenged by any of the observers when they were opened, and somehow the Fulton County elections workers knew exactly which trays were their "special" ballots and that they would have a chance to sneak them into these containers, that all the observers would leave, then they could pull them out and scan them, all without the Secretary of State representative present noticing, and that somehow the visible CCTV cameras wouldn't have clued them in on this being a bad idea?

If so, the Fulton County elections workers are clearly in the wrong line of work, they should be knocking off casinos.
Then do a signature matching audit and prove it.

Because otherwise you aren't going to catch the way this particular problem has unfolded.
 
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Then do a signature matching audit and prove it.

Because otherwise you aren't going to catch the way this particular problem has unfolded.

Nice goalpost move. So, now that you've admitted that there were not suitcases full of fraudulent Biden ballots because the chain of custody was maintained like the Georgia SoS office said...

How are you going to do that when it's impossible in Georgia because the ballots and signature envelopes are no longer mated? Just randomly throwing out ballots?
 

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