Election 2020 Election Fraud: Let's face it, this year will be a shitshow

[Terthna]

No bragging until the issue is settled, and I'm not placing bets on anything right now.

Worlds too damned chaotic.

I would not discount the possibility that Trump fails to hold the Democrats to account for their fraud, and is ultimately ousted from the presidency. If that happens though, I don't see how we can come back from this; our votes won't matter, and we will have absolutely zero say in who "represents" us, and what decisions our rulers make. Our entire system of governance will be nothing more than a sham, run by con artists who intend to rob us blind while they ruin everything they can get their hands on, and insane extremists who intend to reshape the world to better suit their mad delusions.

 

[ReggieLedoux]

I would not discount the possibility that Trump fails to hold the Democrats to account for their fraud, and is ultimately ousted from the presidency. If that happens though, I don't see how we can come back from this; our votes won't matter, and we will have absolutely zero say in who "represents" us, and what decisions our rulers make. Our entire system of governance will be nothing more than a sham, run by con artists who intend to rob us blind while they ruin everything they can get their hands on, and insane extremists who intend to reshape the world to better suit their mad delusions.

If that's true, why have the Democrats lost the senate?

That's the thing, if they were going to rig the election, and rig it in an apparently massively way, why not rig it in a way that actually suits them more than barely squeaking in a president with an openly hostile Republican majority in the senate?

One could come up with some bullshit "In order to trigger a Republican civil war" or "They were idiots and didn't change down ballots", but for the former, getting a majority in the senate would've done just as if not a better job in causing the fighting between Trump only Loyalists and the other republican factions, and for the latter, it's fucking ridiculous that apparently there's this massive conspiracy involving all but the forms of media that don't require you to hand over your Driver's license, Private Companies ranging from tech, to voting machine, to media, including things like Fox News. They can't be both simultaneously masterminds that destroyed American democracy and retards who didn't think to add in a few more D's on some ballots.

 

[Terthna]

If that's true, why have the Democrats lost the senate?

That's the thing, if they were going to rig the election, and rig it in an apparently massively way, why not rig it in a way that actually suits them more than barely squeaking in a president with an openly hostile Republican majority in the senate?

One could come up with some bullshit "In order to trigger a Republican civil war" or "They were idiots and didn't change down ballots", but for the former, getting a majority in the senate would've done just as if not a better job in causing the fighting between Trump only Loyalists and the other republican factions, and for the latter, it's fucking ridiculous that apparently there's this massive conspiracy involving all but the forms of media that don't require you to hand over your Driver's license, Private Companies ranging from tech, to voting machine, to media, including things like Fox News. They can't be both simultaneously masterminds that destroyed American democracy and retards who didn't think to add in a few more D's on some ballots.

Because the goal was to oust Trump; every ounce of effort was dedicated towards that goal, to the exclusion of everything else. If the Democrats had unlimited resources, sure; they would have loved to cheat their way to controlling the Senate as well. But getting rid of Trump was more important. Because, not only did they despise him on a personal level, with him gone, there's nobody left willing to hold them to account, or stand in the way of future attempts at cheating an election.

Also keep in mind; the extent of the cheating involved here dwarfs almost anything we've seen to this point in our history. Consider this presidential election a proof of concept; a trial run for what's to come, now that the taboo has been broken.

 

[Cherico]

I would not discount the possibility that Trump fails to hold the Democrats to account for their fraud, and is ultimately ousted from the presidency. If that happens though, I don't see how we can come back from this; our votes won't matter, and we will have absolutely zero say in who "represents" us, and what decisions our rulers make. Our entire system of governance will be nothing more than a sham, run by con artists who intend to rob us blind while they ruin everything they can get their hands on, and insane extremists who intend to reshape the world to better suit their mad delusions.

Other peoples money starts running out in 2 years, the urban elite took their power base the cities and set them on fire in some cases literally with covid and the other crisis's. A nation wide lock down would cause a great depression and dispite what idiots think you cant control the outcome of those things.

Don't get me wrong it would be an absolutely shit 20-30 years but these people are not nearly as smart as they think they are.

 

[Duke Nukem]

From the Pa hearing:

Every password and login collects credentials 30 USB devices were stolen in Philadelphia

Cancel votes, shift votes, in real-time, in large numbers. And they are all connected

Up to 1.2M PA votes may have been altered or fraudulent

 

[Cherico]

From the Pa hearing:

well fuck....

 

[Rocinante]

I'll give it till the end of the week. If nothing big happens by then, then yeah, the election is probably lost.

I already think it probably is over... but we will have to wait and see what these lawsuits bring to the table to be sure.

 

[Duke Nukem]

So in the hearing one of the Testifiers said there was 600,000 biden votes...3200 for trump...totally legit

 

[Isem]

Dunno if this quite counts as fraud related but the cause for mail in ballots being sent out to people in Milis Town Massachusetts who didn't request them is nominally due to a glitch of some kind (or at least the Town Clerk thinks it was a glitch but by her own admission her knowledge of programming and computers is low) where apparently, in spite of there being no reason for a person to even so much as have a place in the list if they didn't return their card they'd be added to it anyway and sent a mail in ballot.

 

[Archmagnus]

 

[Terthna]

Anyone still denying that the Democrats cheated to win this election either isn't paying attention, or is refusing to listen to the evidence. It isn't a matter of whether or not it happened; it's a matter of whether or not Trump can do anything about it.

 

[Hlaalu Agent]

Anyone still denying that the Democrats cheated to win this election either isn't paying attention, or is refusing to listen to the evidence. It isn't a matter of whether or not it happened; it's a matter of whether or not Trump can do anything about it.

Or is lying, there is always the least chartable option. Not that I actually would want to accuse people of lying, that comes when I get immersed deeply into the debate, emotions are stoked and tempers flare. I prefer that my enemies are not lying, and are either mistaken, have a genuine difference in opinion, etc. I prefer the possibility that allows me to actually be wrong, or both me and my opponent to be right in our own ways, because that will lead to the better outcome. Because the opposition being honest means we might be able to come to common ground...

But the fact is that people lie, and that is human nature, and people are lying a lot about fraud and trying to obscure the truth.

 

[random_boy232]

She's obviously got someone. Perhaps we shall find out today.

https://defendingtherepublic.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/COMPLAINT-CJ-PEARSON-V.-KEMP-11.25.2020.pdf

She's got a bunch of nonsensical rantings, the kraken ain't looking too hot. Judges love it when you tell them to just duck duck go things.

 

[Archmagnus]

And here's the first tentacle of the Kraken

https://defendingtherepublic.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/COMPLAINT-CJ-PEARSON-V.-KEMP-11.25.2020.pdf

a massive lawsuit that can totally invalidate Georgia in six different ways, backed with mountains of evidence and precedent.

The second tentacle emerged in Michigan as well

https://defendingtherepublic.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Michigan-Complaint.pdf

It amazes me how brazenly the media keeps insisting there is no fraud, and putting this massive effort to not investigate any of these claims.

https://defendingtherepublic.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/COMPLAINT-CJ-PEARSON-V.-KEMP-11.25.2020.pdf

She's got a bunch of nonsensical rantings, the kraken ain't looking too hot. Judges love it when you tell them to just duck duck go things.

How typical of you, to concentrate on some minor detail and ignore anything of substance. Are you going to scour the suit for typos as well?

 

[Zachowon]

If you want unbiased us Duck Duck go.

 

[Pocky Balboa]

How typical of you, to concentrate on some minor detail and ignore anything of substance. Are you going to scour the suit for typos as well?

My next prediction on how the deboonkers are gonna downplay this is by bitching about the misspellings that seem pretty typical from using OCR and that's what I'm seeing with these.

And here's why she's independent from the Trump team. The latter wants to win the election, Sidney Powell wants blood.

The demands:

For these reasons, Plaintiff asks this Court to enter a judgment in their favor and provide the following emergency relief:

1. An order directing Governor Kemp, Secretary Raffensperger and the Georgia State Board of Elections to de-certify the election results;
2. An order enjoining Governor Kemp from transmitting the currently certified election results to the Electoral College;
3. An order requiring Governor Kemp to transmit certified election results that state that President Donald Trump is the winner of the election;

1. An immediate order to impound all the voting machines and software in Georgia for expert inspection by the Plaintiffs.
2. An order that no votes received or tabulated by machines that were not certified as required by federal and state law be counted.
3. A declaratory judgment declaring that Georgia Secretary of State Rule 183-1-14-0.9-.15 violates the Electors and Elections Clause, U.S. CONST. art. I, § 4;
4. A declaratory judgment declaring that Georgia’s failed system of signature verification violates the Electors and Elections Clause by working a de facto abolition of the signature verification requirement;
5. A declaratory judgment declaring that current certified election results violates the Due Process Clause, U.S. CONST. Amend. XIV;
6. A declaratory judgment declaring that mail-in and absentee ballot fraud must be remedied with a Full Manual Recount or statistically valid sampling that properly verifies the signatures on absentee ballot envelopes and that invalidates the certified results if the recount or sampling analysis shows a sufficient number of ineligible absentee ballots were counted;

1. An emergency declaratory judgment that voting machines be Seized and Impounded immediately for a forensic audit—by plaintiffs’ expects;
2. A declaratory judgment declaring absentee ballot fraud occurred in violation of Constitutional rights, Election laws and under state law;
3. A permanent injunction prohibiting the Governor and Secretary of State from transmitting the currently certified results to the Electoral College based on the overwhelming evidence of election tampering;
4. Immediate production of 36 hours of security camera recording of all rooms used in the voting process at State Farm Arena in Fulton County, GA from 12:00am to 3:00am until 6:00pm on November 3.
5. Plaintiffs further request the Court grant such other relief as is just and proper, including but not limited to, the costs of this action and their reasonable attorney fees and expenses pursuant to 42 U.S.C. 1988.

 

[Cherico]

My next prediction on how the deboonkers are gonna downplay this is by bitching about the misspellings that seem pretty typical from using OCR and that's what I'm seeing with these.

And here's why she's independent from the Trump team. The latter wants to win the election, Sidney Powell wants blood.

The demands:

Can you give me a list of what reactions will be next in the chain?

 

[Zachowon]

Can you give me a list of what reactions will be next in the chain?

What do you mean?

 

[Cherico]

What do you mean?

what fuckery and excuses and action we can expect in order.

 

[Pocky Balboa]

Can you give me a list of what reactions will be next in the chain?

Hmm, I'm gonna go with the usual fallbacks of "it's all just conspiracy theory" or "pOwEll iS a gRiFter" and "MONEY GRAB!!!1111"

That or some flavor of "aFaDAvitTs aREn'T eViDence"

Here's some exhibits from the MI one:
https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mied.350905/gov.uscourts.mied.350905.1.15.pdf