Election 2020 Election Fraud: Let's face it, this year will be a shitshow

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Thanks for that correction. Is he mistaken about the voting machines processing rate? As honestly I don’t really care about voter turnout vs expected voter numbers, there are any number of reasons for those to be weird and are not the writer’s area of expertise. I do want to know if more votes were registered then is mechanically possible. As the writer is claiming to be a voting machine systems expert that is well within his claims of expertise.

That is something that leads to an easy yes or no. If he is correct in his description of the machines in question and they did register much more votes then is physically possible then fraud is the only answer. It would be like ten people claiming to count a hundred thousand ballots by hand in an hour.

Possibly due to the aforementioned error, courts have not found most of the claims claims credible enough thus far to act. There have been other defects in the legal cases brought thus far.
 

Wargamer08

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Possibly due to the aforementioned error, courts have not found most of the claims claims credible enough thus far to act. There have been other defects in the legal cases brought thus far.
That’s not what I’m looking for. The low level legal circus right now is heavy on accusations and partisan politics. A whole lot of stuff is getting thrown out for just improper prep work and lack of standing then any kind of negation of statement.

I’m looking for the facts, his numbers for voter turnout are wrong, they transposed two names. That’s a fact. Is there any expert opinion that contradicts his claims about the voting machines? Not a judge throwing it out, but someone with credible expertise saying that yes the machines can process that many ballots or an explanation for it.
 

lordmcdeath

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Tomorrow you can see her lawsuit filing to see if it's legit or mock her.

Who is she filling on behalf of? She has to have standing to bring a valid lawsuit. Also why she hasn't been counter sued, they might be waiting for this. It is far easier to prove defamation and slander based on testimony and statements in a court of law.
 

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Who is she filling on behalf of? She has to have standing to bring a valid lawsuit. Also why she hasn't been counter sued, they might be waiting for this. It is far easier to prove defamation and slander based on testimony and statements in a court of law.
I don't know there's claims she's going to file one then you can see what it is.
 

lordmcdeath

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I’m looking for the facts, his numbers for voter turnout are wrong, they transposed two names. That’s a fact. Is there any expert opinion that contradicts his claims about the voting machines? Not a judge throwing it out, but someone with credible expertise saying that yes the machines can process that many ballots or an explanation for it.

The problem is that he was using the data available on November 3rd according to the statement, which means that he was pulling them from Edison, as the official numbers aren't released. Edison is an unofficial data reporting service which has deals to get official vote totals, but they are polling the results by calling the voting stations directly from what I understand and getting updated totals. Add to the fact that I can't confirm the model of the scanner, the number of scanners, or its actual vs guaranteed throughput, I can't be definitive.
 

Es Arcanum

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Given that the Trump Administration itself has strongly disavowed and repudiated Powell's claims as baseless, I think there's every reason to believe it's not legit.

Your link is hidden behind a paywall mate. It seems to be referring the point the Trump lawyers made a couple days ago about Powell's legal team being its own entity. That's not a disavowal or repudiation in fact there's several reasons they would have done this. Including party concerns, funding technicalities, conflicting time frames etc.

Unless you have a quotation of the Trump team disavowing or repudiating Sidney Powell's allegations that the Dominion vote process was fraudulent???
 

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Given that the Trump Administration itself has strongly disavowed and repudiated Powell's claims as baseless, I think there's every reason to believe it's not legit.

The article is outright lying, they are claiming a repudiation that doesn't exist. When the actual text says that it is a parting of ways to pursue different avenues of redress. People separate on good terms all the time. Though from what I have heard, she was always doing her onw thing.
 

ShadowArxxy

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Got any sources that arnt biased left wing media. As well as the actual stuff from his campaign when she has been acting independent of the Trump campaign?

Your link is hidden behind a paywall mate. It seems to be referring the point the Trump lawyers made a couple days ago about Powell's legal team being its own entity. That's not a disavowal or repudiation in fact there's several reasons they would have done this. Including party concerns, funding technicalities, conflicting time frames etc.

Unless you have a quotation of the Trump team disavowing or repudiating Sidney Powell's allegations that the Dominion vote process was fraudulent???

There's plenty of sources, and I don't know which ones you want to reject as "left wing". This does not seem to be a point of actual controversy; Guliani and Ellis' official statement clearly distances her from Trump's team, whereas just a few days prior, she was permitted coequal status in the official press conference alongside Guliani and Ellis.

I'll concede that "repudiate" might have been too strong a term, but they're definitely distancing from her, and have clearly revoked her prior status as a de facto member of the team.
 

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There's plenty of sources, and I don't know which ones you want to reject as "left wing". This does not seem to be a point of actual controversy; Guliani and Ellis' official statement clearly distances her from Trump's team, whereas just a few days prior, she was permitted coequal status in the official press conference alongside Guliani and Ellis.

I'll concede that "repudiate" might have been too strong a term, but they're definitely distancing from her, and have clearly revoked her prior status as a de facto member of the team.
Show us the statement itself.
 

ShadowArxxy

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The article is outright lying, they are claiming a repudiation that doesn't exist. When the actual text says that it is a parting of ways to pursue different avenues of redress. People separate on good terms all the time. Though from what I have heard, she was always doing her onw thing.

Do you have a longer statement from Guliani and Ellis? I haven't seen anything about "pursuing different avenues of redress", simply disavowing her previous closeness by clarifying on the record that she is *neither* part of the official team *nor* privately representing Mr. Trump in parallel with the official team.
 

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Do you have a longer statement from Guliani and Ellis? I haven't seen anything about "pursuing different avenues of redress", simply disavowing her previous closeness by clarifying on the record that she is *neither* part of the official team *nor* privately representing Mr. Trump in parallel with the official team.

That is what is implied there. They said she is doing her own thing.
 

Es Arcanum

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There's plenty of sources, and I don't know which ones you want to reject as "left wing". This does not seem to be a point of actual controversy; Guliani and Ellis' official statement clearly distances her from Trump's team, whereas just a few days prior, she was permitted coequal status in the official press conference alongside Guliani and Ellis.

I'll concede that "repudiate" might have been too strong a term, but they're definitely distancing from her, and have clearly revoked her prior status as a de facto member of the team.

It's not 'too strong a term' mate it's a completely different term that doesn't fit what happened. Mike Flynn jr. who's dad is represented by Powell is fairly sure it's a result of two separate funding streams for both legal efforts. There was no repudiation and no disavowing of any of Sidney Powell's contentions.
 

lordmcdeath

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The longer explanation came from Guiliani on Lou Dobbs on Monday night. Dobbs characterized them as cutting her loose. Looking for a clip now.

Here is the clip

As for the funding sources, that doesn't matter. If she isn't representing Trump or the Campaign, then who is she filing suit on behalf. That tells you what standing she has.
 
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Pocky Balboa

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It's not 'too strong a term' mate it's a completely different term that doesn't fit what happened. Mike Flynn jr. who's dad is represented by Powell is fairly sure it's a result of two separate funding streams for both legal efforts. There was no repudiation and no disavowing of any of Sidney Powell's contentions.

And here's a tweet from Gen. Flynn himself from a few days ago
 

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I'm not surprised Shadow came in here trying to peddle the 'Powell was cut loose and disavowed' bullshit.

It's the same gaslighting bullshit she's done for years on SB.

There are many reasons Powell is acting separately from the Trump Campaign legal team, and those reasons may have to do with allowing her to persue actions Trump and his team cannot due to conflict of interest laws.
 

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